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Re: [Pharo-project] about Pharo

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Thanks for your reply :) >> what you report is strange. >> Can you let us know: > >> - vm > > The Pharo VM is the current (as of a couple of days ago) download from > the Pharo Homepage - Squeak 3.11.4 (beta). > >> - OS > > Win2K SP4 > >> - image version > > Once again, a very recent download - pharo1.0-10493-rc1dev09.11.2.image > >> - your display depth > > True Color 24 bit I have Display depth -> 32 then 24 looks strange to me. depth: bitsPerPixel (bitsPerPixel > 32 or: [(bitsPerPixel bitAnd: bitsPerPixel-1) ~= 0]) ifTrue: [self halt: 'bitsPerPixel must be 1, 2, 4, 8, 16 or 32']. depth := bitsPerPixel Can you type Display depth and Display depth: 32 to see if this change something? >> Because people are using pharo on production and we got an increase of 15% of Morphic >> in pharo 1.1 so I have some doubts. > > It is very definitely much slower than Squeak on my system. This is an > old laptop 900MHz P3, but it has no problems at all running Squeak. We should keep an old machine around to test it. this is strange. Because the Ob2Browser is slow because it displays package and getting package information is slow. Which browser are you using Can you give a try to change it and use the system browser (to change click on the right icon on the window ... Choose new default menu) Can you change the theme? using the preference pane? Thanks Stef > > Neil Butterworth

Nov. 26, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo and db support

by Diogenes Moreira

in fact, we are working on a new page .... please be patient with us as .. is the tipical situation, the good programmers make horrible pages...please some graphics artist, help us.... :) Regards. On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 6:45 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Excellent! > Diogenes it would be great if you could have a web page :) > > Stef > > On Nov 26, 2009, at 10:17 PM, Diogenes Moreira wrote: > >> http://www.smallworks.com.ar >> >> We have a lot products in productions using relationals >> database. Sadly, we don't have webpages for all >> products...we are programmers :) >> >> Today, our strategy is use Glorp, with SqueakDBX. >> (Postgres, MySql, Oracle and comming Soon MSSQL), when we don't use >> the prevalence >> >> But we have products with Glorp with direct driver and >> Homemade Frameworks. >> >> the best success case is a Postal Tracking System. This >> system manages arround 2 millon Â letters at month. This system >> use PostgreSql and Glorp. >> >> >> Best Regards >> >> On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl> wrote: >>> Doru wrote: >>> Â >I would like to collect a list of the solutions to link >>> Â >Pharo with existing databases. I am interested in >>> Â >both relational and in object databases. >>> >>> Something like http://www.seaside.st/documentation/persistence? >>> >>> Stephan >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Nov. 26, 2009

[Pharo-project] Fwd: about Pharo

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Begin forwarded message: > From: neil butterworth <nbutterworth1953(a)googlemail.com> > Date: November 26, 2009 10:29:57 PM GMT+01:00 > To: StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > Subject: Re: about Pharo > > On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 9:04 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse > <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> Hi Neil > > Hello > >> >> what you report is strange. >> Can you let us know: > >> - vm > > The Pharo VM is the current (as of a couple of days ago) download from > the Pharo Homepage - Squeak 3.11.4 (beta). > >> - OS > > Win2K SP4 > >> - image version > > Once again, a very recent download - pharo1.0-10493-rc1dev09.11.2.image > >> - your display depth > > True Color 24 bit > >> Because people are using pharo on production and we got an increase of 15% of Morphic >> in pharo 1.1 so I have some doubts. > > It is very definitely much slower than Squeak on my system. This is an > old laptop 900MHz P3, but it has no problems at all running Squeak. > > Neil Butterworth

Nov. 26, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo and db support

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Excellent! Diogenes it would be great if you could have a web page :) Stef On Nov 26, 2009, at 10:17 PM, Diogenes Moreira wrote: > http://www.smallworks.com.ar > > We have a lot products in productions using relationals > database. Sadly, we don't have webpages for all > products...we are programmers :) > > Today, our strategy is use Glorp, with SqueakDBX. > (Postgres, MySql, Oracle and comming Soon MSSQL), when we don't use > the prevalence > > But we have products with Glorp with direct driver and > Homemade Frameworks. > > the best success case is a Postal Tracking System. This > system manages arround 2 millon letters at month. This system > use PostgreSql and Glorp. > > > Best Regards > > On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl> wrote: >> Doru wrote: >> >I would like to collect a list of the solutions to link >> >Pharo with existing databases. I am interested in >> >both relational and in object databases. >> >> Something like http://www.seaside.st/documentation/persistence? >> >> Stephan >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Nov. 26, 2009

[Pharo-project] Getting rid of the blinking cursor?

by Henrik Jegbjerg Hansen

Is it possible to get rid of the blinking cursor? I prefer the non-blinking which is default on Squeak. Maybe there should be a preference setting for this? -- Henrik Jegbjerg Hansen

Nov. 26, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo and db support

by Diogenes Moreira

http://www.smallworks.com.ar We have a lot products in productions using relationals database. Sadly, we don't have webpages for all products...we are programmers :) Today, our strategy is use Glorp, with SqueakDBX. (Postgres, MySql, Oracle and comming Soon MSSQL), when we don't use the prevalence But we have products with Glorp with direct driver and Homemade Frameworks. the best success case is a Postal Tracking System. This system manages arround 2 millon letters at month. This system use PostgreSql and Glorp. Best Regards On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl> wrote: > Doru wrote: > Â >I would like to collect a list of the solutions to link > Â >Pharo with existing databases. I am interested in > Â >both relational and in object databases. > > Something like http://www.seaside.st/documentation/persistence? > > Stephan > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Nov. 26, 2009

[Pharo-project] about sluggines on linux

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

hi guys Arturo told me that pharo was looking slow on his machine. I could not find the time to check if this was related with the display depth. Or that pharo was just slow compared to VW. Arturo can you let us know. Stef

Nov. 26, 2009

[Pharo-project] about Pharo

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi Neil what you report is strange. Can you let us know: - vm - OS - image version - your display depth Because people are using pharo on production and we got an increase of 15% of Morphic in pharo 1.1 so I have some doubts. Now lot of us are on mac. Please note that you can forward this email to the newsgroup because I cannot post there. I never noticed a grow mention by the person which replied to you. If you want to have fast and supportive answers to your question send them to the pharo mailing-lists since we do not read news groups in general. Stef

Nov. 26, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] c.l.s "Pharo less responsive than Squeak?"

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

good to let us know. I do not see pharo getting up to 130 Mb. On Nov 26, 2009, at 9:53 PM, csrabak(a)bol.com.br wrote: > > Do you also see as these persons report it? > > http://groups.google.com.br/group/comp.lang.smalltalk/browse_thread/thread/… > > -- > Cesar Rabak > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Nov. 26, 2009

[Pharo-project] Re: c.l.s "Pharo less responsive than Squeak?"

by csrabak＠bol.com.br

Do you also see as these persons report it? http://groups.google.com.br/group/comp.lang.smalltalk/browse_thread/thread/… -- Cesar Rabak

Nov. 26, 2009