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Re: [Pharo-project] Is there something wrong in debugging in the Morphic thread?

by Simon Denier

OK folks, thanks for your suggestions, I will see how to be more careful with such threads. The instance browser seems a very interesting idea and I will try to use it (although not necessarily for such problems, but for bugs popping up during very long computations, it can be great). As well is the idea of drawing in a bitmap canvas before displaying: I would like to see some kind of better sandboxing for such problems... Another cup of big bad error this morning. After seeing the image freezes once again on a long process, out of frustration I tried to interrupt it multiple times. I didn't get any debugger and the VM just quit after a while, but at least it seems like the stack dump still works in this case. So the last stack dump looks like this: Bitmap class(Behavior)>>basicNew: Receiver: Bitmap Arguments and temporary variables: sizeRequested: 206074 Receiver's instance variables: superclass: ArrayedCollection methodDict: a MethodDictionary(#asByteArray->a CompiledMethod(4056: Bitmap>>asB...etc... format: 33538 instanceVariables: nil organization: ('accessing' atAllPut: bitPatternForDepth: byteAt: byteAt:put: by...etc... subclasses: nil name: #Bitmap classPool: a Dictionary() sharedPools: nil environment: nil category: #'Graphics-Primitives' traitComposition: nil localSelectors: nil Bitmap class(Behavior)>>basicNew: Bitmap class(Behavior)>>basicNew: Bitmap class(Behavior)>>basicNew: Bitmap class(Behavior)>>basicNew: etc. while it's trying to open the debugger. Now I would like to get a better understanding. Why does this primitive keep failing and retry? My best guess is that the VM runs out of ressources (memory) but can not report it. On 1 dÃ©c. 2009, at 03:01, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand wrote: > Hi Simon, > Have you tried http://www.squeaksource.com/LightweightClasses.html ? > It's in an experimental stage, but I've used it succesfully for the > recursive debugger problem. You may load it in Pharo-Core this way : > > Gofer new > squeaksource: 'LightweightClasses'; > addPackage: 'ParametrizedCompiler'; > addPackage: 'LightweightClasses'; > addPackage: 'OBLightweightClass'; > load; > recompile. > > Cordialement, > > HernÃ¡n > > 2009/11/30 Simon Denier <simon.denier(a)inria.fr>: >> >> Unfortunately, this is an issue which I cant easily reproduce, at >> least not >> without a third party tool (1525). Now I would like the general >> opinion/experience of debugging Morphic code especially in threads. >> Usually an exception raised from within Morphic code pops up a >> debugger as >> usual. However, from time to time, or for more complicated stuff, the >> situation runs out of hand and tons of debugger pop up everywhere >> because >> the same faulty gets obviously executed again and again. >> Now can somebody with some Morphic knowledge explain how this is >> supposed to >> work and how to deal with such issues? >> -- >> Simon >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- Simon

Dec. 1, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] How do I know which issues are resolved in each new release?

by Tim Mackinnon

So can can I see this somewhere? I was expecting on the download page there would be a link to show me what changes have been fixed in that release. ( even a list so that I can filter on 9.11.4 - and then see that #11504,11523... is included etc. would be fine). Maybe in the future there might be some way to do something like the Trac guys do - where they have the convention that their SVN commit comments (I guess this could be MCZ comments or naming convention) include the ticket id number of the bug/feature they are fixing - they can then generate a list of whats in a build - and when you do a release, whats in the release. e.g. look at the following page on their website: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracL10N (press the edit button and see how they are querying out the outstanding tickets for a release). Is this what Mason and the things mentioned do? The best system I have seen running was Trac with Hudson - however all these things are doable in any system (the ones mentioned here sound interesting). I would just like to see something concrete so I can try and help in some way to make sure that V1.0 is stable and as bug free as possible. Tim On 1 Dec 2009, at 12:35, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > this is what we do also. > > On Dec 1, 2009, at 2:03 AM, Dale Henrichs wrote: > >> In the google issues list, one can add a column called "Fixed" and a version can be supplied for the value of that field (like Version or Milestone) when the bug is fixed ... I think this is what Tim is getting at. I've just done this for Metacello, since I think it is a good idea:) >> >> Dale >> ----- "Tim Mackinnon" <tamackinnon(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> | Hi guys - I noticed there was a new 9.11.4 release since buenos aires >> | - and I got to wondering what issues have been resolved in it (as I am >> | trying to follow Pharo by example - I am trying to test out features >> | to see if they work as I progress through the material). >> | >> | Anyway - is there a list of issues fixed marked against each new >> | version? I can see the list at: >> | http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list# - but it doesn't list any >> | build numbers - just milestone 1.1? >> | >> | Tim >> | _______________________________________________ >> | Pharo-project mailing list >> | Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> | http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Dec. 1, 2009

[Pharo-project] [update 1.1] #11067

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

11067 ----- SettingsIntegrationPart2SettingsIntegrationPart2 * SettingBrowser fixes (item search was not working; collapsing and re-opening a SystemBrowser was freezing the system) * add settings for - display depth - desktop background (color, gradient, background image) - standard fonts (add StandardFonts class in Graphic-Text package as a facade for all standards font; add Graphic-Text-SystemSettings package) - isPrime, isPrimeProbabl...

Dec. 1, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] How do I know which issues are resolved in each new release?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

this is what we do also. On Dec 1, 2009, at 2:03 AM, Dale Henrichs wrote: > In the google issues list, one can add a column called "Fixed" and a version can be supplied for the value of that field (like Version or Milestone) when the bug is fixed ... I think this is what Tim is getting at. I've just done this for Metacello, since I think it is a good idea:) > > Dale > ----- "Tim Mackinnon" <tamackinnon(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > | Hi guys - I noticed there was a new 9.11.4 release since buenos aires > | - and I got to wondering what issues have been resolved in it (as I am > | trying to follow Pharo by example - I am trying to test out features > | to see if they work as I progress through the material). > | > | Anyway - is there a list of issues fixed marked against each new > | version? I can see the list at: > | http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list# - but it doesn't list any > | build numbers - just milestone 1.1? > | > | Tim > | _______________________________________________ > | Pharo-project mailing list > | Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > | http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Dec. 1, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] BUG: some MC package not dirty...

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Indeed I would not trust totally DragNDrop On Nov 30, 2009, at 11:44 PM, Nicolas Cellier wrote: > What I did: > > 1) uploaded trunk code from Graphics package: this code was overriden > by *FreeType-override > 2) classified the code back to FreeType via drag-and-drop in a regular browser > > What I obtained: the changes were not in Graphics. > But the FreeType package in Monticello Browser was still marked as > clean (I mean not marked as *dirty). > > I feel like this is a UI bug... > > > BTW, I noticed there is both a FreeType and a FreeType-Settings (or > something like that). > I thought it was wrong... isn't it? probably. I really hate this string matching convention.... Lukas reviewed my package code and I will do another pass to speed it up. > > Nicolas > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Dec. 1, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] gofer load make the categories don't appear

by Lukas Renggli

Yeah, the old browser does not seem to refresh. Lukas 2009/12/1 arnaud Jean Baptiste <jbaptiste.arnaud(a)gmail.com>: > > Not a Gofer problem it's update problem when loading from browser > A way to reproduce : > > create a method containing : > > Gofer new squeaksource:'JBARepo'; > Â Â Â addPackage:'FFI-Kernel'; > Â Â Â load. > > select and Print it (with do it seem work ), then the browser seems not be updated. > > > > On Dec 1, 2009, at 11:26 AM, Lukas Renggli wrote: > >> I cannot reproduce. Note that the category is called 'FFI-Kernel', not >> 'FFI-kernel'. >> >> Lukas >> >> 2009/12/1 arnaud Jean Baptiste <jbaptiste.arnaud(a)gmail.com>: >>> When i load a package Via Gofer, the categories of the loaded code doesn't appear. >>> >>> take a new image PharoCore1.1ALPHA Latest update: #11066 >>> >>> How to reproduce : >>> execute : >>> >>> Gofer new squeaksource:'JBARepo'; >>> Â Â Â Â addPackage:'FFI-Kernel'; >>> Â Â Â Â load. >>> >>> then no categories FFI-kernel appear. but you can find the class loaded if you search them (FFIConstants or ExternalObject ) >>> >>> >>> I open a issue : 1530 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Lukas Renggli >> http://www.lukas-renggli.ch >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch

Dec. 1, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] gofer load make the categories don't appear

by arnaud Jean Baptiste

Not a Gofer problem it's update problem when loading from browser A way to reproduce : create a method containing : Gofer new squeaksource:'JBARepo'; addPackage:'FFI-Kernel'; load. select and Print it (with do it seem work ), then the browser seems not be updated. On Dec 1, 2009, at 11:26 AM, Lukas Renggli wrote: > I cannot reproduce. Note that the category is called 'FFI-Kernel', not > 'FFI-kernel'. > > Lukas > > 2009/12/1 arnaud Jean Baptiste <jbaptiste.arnaud(a)gmail.com>: >> When i load a package Via Gofer, the categories of the loaded code doesn't appear. >> >> take a new image PharoCore1.1ALPHA Latest update: #11066 >> >> How to reproduce : >> execute : >> >> Gofer new squeaksource:'JBARepo'; >> addPackage:'FFI-Kernel'; >> load. >> >> then no categories FFI-kernel appear. but you can find the class loaded if you search them (FFIConstants or ExternalObject ) >> >> >> I open a issue : 1530 >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > Lukas Renggli > http://www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Dec. 1, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] gofer load make the categories don't appear

by arnaud Jean Baptiste

True i cannot reproduce again but that arrived twice. I close the issue i will be careful about what i do, then i will try to find how correctly reproduce. On Dec 1, 2009, at 11:26 AM, Lukas Renggli wrote: > I cannot reproduce. Note that the category is called 'FFI-Kernel', not > 'FFI-kernel'. > > Lukas > > 2009/12/1 arnaud Jean Baptiste <jbaptiste.arnaud(a)gmail.com>: >> When i load a package Via Gofer, the categories of the loaded code doesn't appear. >> >> take a new image PharoCore1.1ALPHA Latest update: #11066 >> >> How to reproduce : >> execute : >> >> Gofer new squeaksource:'JBARepo'; >> addPackage:'FFI-Kernel'; >> load. >> >> then no categories FFI-kernel appear. but you can find the class loaded if you search them (FFIConstants or ExternalObject ) >> >> >> I open a issue : 1530 >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > Lukas Renggli > http://www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Dec. 1, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Gofer update broken ?

by Lukas Renggli

> return a connection time out exception, server is broken ? Yes, I will not be able to fix it before Friday. Update the version in Pharo, that should work. Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch

Dec. 1, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] gofer load make the categories don't appear

by Lukas Renggli

I cannot reproduce. Note that the category is called 'FFI-Kernel', not 'FFI-kernel'. Lukas 2009/12/1 arnaud Jean Baptiste <jbaptiste.arnaud(a)gmail.com>: > When i load a package Via Gofer, the categories of the loaded code doesn't appear. > > take a new image PharoCore1.1ALPHA Latest update: #11066 > > How to reproduce : > execute : > > Gofer new squeaksource:'JBARepo'; > Â Â Â Â addPackage:'FFI-Kernel'; > Â Â Â Â load. > > then no categories FFI-kernel appear. but you can find the class loaded if you search them (FFIConstants or ExternalObject ) > > > I open a issue : 1530 > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch

Dec. 1, 2009