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Re: [Pharo-project] New User Experience Suggestion for 1.0

by Tim Mackinnon

Can I suggest something like the following (all suggestions welcome - I am trying to have something that is welcoming as well as something that allows people to jump right in and try things, and/or then go to places with more complete documentation like others have suggested): Pharo+Seaside 1.0 RC1 (Title in bold if we can do this like the old Squeak one) Welcome to Pharo + Seaside, a clean, innovative, free and open-source Smalltalk environment aimed at both professional and recreational programmers alike. To get a quick feeling of what is possible with Pharo, open a browser with http://localhost:8080/seaside and explore some of the examples. To administer Seaside, this environment is configured with username: admin and password: seaside If you are curious and want to view some code behind these examples, single click on the background of the main window, choose "Class Browser" and type WACounter. You can then browse the methods for the simple counter and try modifying some of the code, live! If you are new to Smalltalk we recommended that you use this environment and follow the tutorial at http://pharobyexample.org/ Alternatively If you are interested in jumping straight into web development with Pharo and Seaside you can follow the tutorial at http://book.seaside.st/book Finally, have fun with Smalltalk, and make sure you follow the progress of Pharo at http://www.pharo-project.org Tim On 8 Dec 2009, at 08:23, Damien Cassou wrote: > Hi Tim, > > On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 12:51 AM, Tim Mackinnon <tamackinnon(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Guys - do you think you might consider bringing back the little Readme Workspace in the final 1.0 image (or maybe 1.1)? > > there is no technical difficulty. Could you please provide a text? I > will take care of putting it in a workspace. There may be something in > the Pharo wiki already. > > Thank you > > -- > Damien Cassou > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them > popular by not having them." James Iry > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Dec. 8, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Dev09.12.1 does not look nice on Linux

by laurent laffont

Hi, I had the same issue with exupery vm. Works with VM Squeak-3.11.3.2135. See: http://n2.nabble.com/New-pharo-images-td4125021.html#a4125467 Laurent 2009/12/8 Hernan Wilkinson <hernan.wilkinson(a)gmail.com> > Hi, > the last version's fonts look really bad. See attached files > I have Ubuntu 9.10, 64 bits. > Dev09.11.4 looks fine > Maybe is a preference setting? > Hernan > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Dec. 8, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] TheWorldMainDockingBar

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

+ 2 We kept it because we thought gary used it but this is not the case. Stef On Dec 8, 2009, at 9:33 AM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > +1 > > On Dec 8, 2009, at 09:17 , Marcus Denker wrote: > >> >> On Dec 8, 2009, at 9:10 AM, alain.plantec(a)free.fr wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> While migrating a preference for it I noticed that >>> at least, it is not very well integrated in pharo... >>> Before I open an issue (if none already opened) I would like to >>> know what >>> people think about it. >>> Personally I would not be very sad to see it killed :) >> >> I would say kill it. >> >> Marcus >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Dec. 8, 2009

[Pharo-project] Dev09.12.1 does not look nice on Linux

by Hernan Wilkinson

Hi, the last version's fonts look really bad. See attached files I have Ubuntu 9.10, 64 bits. Dev09.11.4 looks fine Maybe is a preference setting? Hernan

Dec. 8, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] MetacelloRepository is online

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

It would be nice to have one per version Pharo1.0 Pharo1.1 May be people should use this convention in file names? Stef On Dec 8, 2009, at 3:04 AM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > Hi, > I created the project MetacelloRepository as a centralized repository > for meta-packages, and started uploading metacello configurations. > > MCHttpRepository > location: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/MetacelloRepository' > user: '' > password: '' > > Currently, I uploaded three projects: > > 1) ConfigurationOfFFI > 2) ConfigurationOfSqueakDBX > 3) ConfigurationOfGlorpDBX > > The whole idea of this is to have a project catalog working (like > apt-get), so I encourage you to use it! > > The tools to manage on a fashion way this repository are comming, > please be patient :) > > Cheers, > Esteban > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Dec. 8, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Cannot update behind a proxy

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

just below the old one. On Dec 7, 2009, at 10:06 PM, Nicolas Cellier wrote: > 2009/12/7 Alain Plantec <alain.plantec(a)free.fr>: >> Nicolas Cellier a Ã©crit : >>> OK, I manually set a class var in the debugger, but find awkward that >>> the Preferences Browser would not do that for me... >>> >> Nicolas, do you try with the new setting browser or with the old >> preference browser? >> Alain > > Hello Alain, > The old one I guess. Where is the menu to open a new one ? > > Nicolas > >>> 2009/12/7 Nicolas Cellier <nicolas.cellier.aka.nice(a)gmail.com>: >>> >>>> The update process stops at 11070... >>>> It cannot get access to >>>> http://www.squeaksource.com/Pharo/ScriptLoader11-MarcusDenker.81.mcz >>>> >>>> 'Could not resolve the server named: www.squeaksource.com' >>>> >>>> I can perfectly access this resource via firefox though... >>>> >>>> Anything related to Preferences refactoring ? >>>> >>>> Nicolas >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Dec. 8, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Window drag and drop strange behavior in 1.1 latest

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

fixed! Thanks I will integrate it when I'm back home. Stef On Dec 7, 2009, at 9:25 PM, alain.plantec(a)free.fr wrote: > <SystemWindowAboutToBeGrabbedByFix.1.cs>

Dec. 8, 2009

[Pharo-project] [update 1.1] #11080

by Marcus Denker

11080 ----- Issue 1528: Transparent rendering of Line Feeds (LF) Issue 1478: ScriptLoader loadFFI fails with a dependency error (again)

Dec. 8, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] linked in pharo group :)

by Peter Hugosson-Miller

Thanks Stef! Kind of like Facebook in a suit, isn't it? ;-) -- Cheers, Peter On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 2:33 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>wrote: > You can register :) > Not sure that this is useful but may be fun :) > > Stef > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Dec. 8, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] VMMaker in Pharo.

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck < marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 8:00 AM, arnaud Jean Baptiste < > jbaptiste.arnaud(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Sorry Mariano i don't have update the wiki of pharo, will do make that >> soon. >> If you want to run easily VMMaker i building a loader of VMMaker for >> pharo. >> >> on squeaksource: JBARepo >> >> VMMakerloader >> and run loadAndFix () >> It work, if you have any problem about it or any question, don't hesitate >> to ask. >> >> >> > Thanks JB. I have just tried and worked perfect. > > Sorry, not so perfect ;) Actually I have this bug that I have reported here: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1559 I already opened another thread for this. However, I am not sure if this is something related to VMMaker in itself. Cheers, Mariano > Cheers, > > Mariano > > >> >> >> On Dec 8, 2009, at 12:38 AM, David T. Lewis wrote: >> >> > On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 11:46:45PM +0100, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >> >> On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 12:09 PM, David T. Lewis <lewis(a)mail.msen.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 11:53:00AM +0100, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >> >>>> Hi! I need to load VMMaker and I was reading this link: >> >>>> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/BuildingAVMOnPharo >> >>>> >> >>>> I tried with the gofer script but it doesn't work in new Gofer >> version, >> >>> as I >> >>>> need to change add: for addPackage: >> >>>> There were also a problem with the ladrillos repo which was with >> lowcase >> >>>> instead of uppercase. The correct Gofer script to load VMMaker is: >> >>>> >> >>>> |gofer| >> >>>> >> >>>> "Create Gofer Object" >> >>>> gofer := Gofer new. >> >>>> >> >>>> "Load the FFI package" >> >>>> ScriptLoader loadFFI. >> >>>> >> >>>> "add the Speech packages" >> >>>> gofer squeaksource: 'Ladrillos'; >> >>>> addPackage: 'Speech-Klatt'. >> >>>> >> >>>> "add VMMaker Packages" >> >>>> gofer squeaksource: 'VMMaker'; >> >>>> addPackage:'VMMaker'. >> >>>> >> >>>> "add Alien Support Packages" >> >>>> gofer squeaksource: 'Alien'; >> >>>> addPackage:'Alien-VMMaker-Support'. >> >>>> >> >>>> " Load " >> >>>> gofer load. >> >>> >> >>> You may want to refer to this configuration map for some other >> packages >> >>> to load with VMMaker: >> >>> >> >>> http://squeaksource.com/VMMaker/update-dtl.2.mcm >> >>> >> >> >> >> Thanks Dave. It sounds like and interesting project to create a >> >> ConfigurationOf for Metacello. Or at least, we need a ScriptLoader >> >> loadVMMaker. >> >> >> >> So, we should load all the packages of that link ? Sorry for my >> ignorance, >> >> but what do those packages add? I mean, with the script I used, it is >> >> broken? I can still use VMMaker? what additional features do I have >> with the >> >> rest of the packages? >> > >> > It is just a configuration map for MonticelloConfigurations. It is used >> > when you evaluate "VMMaker updateFromServer", but it only works if you >> > have MonticelloConfigurations in your image. But the format is very >> simple >> > so you can just read it from >> http://squeaksource.com/VMMaker/update-dtl.2.mcm >> > to figure out what the packages are. >> > >> > It would be good if we could have something similar for Pharo, so >> > if you can make this work with Metacello or one of the loaders for >> > Pharo, that would be great. >> > >> > The list of packages came from the "recipe" that Andreas uses for >> building >> > Windows VMs, plus packages that I added (OSProcessPlugin etc). I know >> > there are some missing from the configuration, but at least it's a start >> :) >> > >> > Dave >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Pharo-project mailing list >> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > >

Dec. 8, 2009