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Re: [Pharo-project] package documentation viewer

by csrabak＠bol.com.br

I also vote for having it running at Pharo website. However it gives another opportunity to my canvassing: it is imperative that the comments written (class and methods) be accurate and uptodate!! -- Cesar Rabak Em 09/12/2009 11:06, Alexandre Bergel < alexandre(a)bergel.eu > escreveu: Looks good. Maybe this could be part of the Pharo website no ? Alexandre On 9 Dec 2009, at 07:49, laurent laffont wrote: > Hi, > > for fun and *for me*, I've made a small Seaside app to quickly > browse all documentation in a Pharo image. > It's package oriented, all classes and selectors comment on a > single page, so I can use search and print functions of my web > browser. > > Someone might have a use of it. It's here: http://www.squeaksource.com/SimpleWebDoc.html > Screenshots: http://picasaweb.google.fr/laurent.laffont/Simplewebdoc > > Laurent > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Dec. 9, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Gofer git

by Lukas Renggli

> I do not know if you noticed that with the latest version of Gofer you can get a full git behavior Not full, but at least it mimics that Git syncs the local and remote repositories. > Gofer new > Â Â Â Â squeaksource: 'PharoTaskForces'; > Â Â Â Â addPackage: 'RPackage'; > Â Â Â Â pull This operation is called #fetch in the latest Gofer, I renamed it recently. This is how it is called originally in Git and it downloads all versions to the local package cache. > to pull all the packages pubslihed and fill up your local cache > > Gofer new > Â Â Â Â squeaksource: 'PharoTaskForces'; > Â Â Â Â addPackage: 'RPackage'; > Â Â Â Â push > > to push your local saved versions to the repository.... There is updated documentation in the class comment and on my blog article at <http://www.lukas-renggli.ch/blog/gofer>. > Of course it means that you can build a database and when you run your script > the cache is checked first.... so yes you can work in the train :) The reason why I didn't announce this, is because the current implementation has serious problems that need to be fixed. For example, reading from a remote repository that is not available silently fails. Furthermore, to determine the latest version all available versions from all repositories are merged, that is often not desired. I probably need to introduce some kind of a repository object where the user can specify these things (consider cache or not, fail silently or not, ...). Also there are no tests for any of this, so use it at your own risk. Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch

Dec. 9, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] EventInterceptor and MessageSendTree

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

hernan this sounds cool. Keep pushing that. We need better tools to analyseour living system. stef On Dec 7, 2009, at 10:25 PM, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand wrote: > Hi Alex, > Of course, I'm using it to observe what's the best place to hook an > interceptor (like a method wrapper) for a wayfinder tool I'm > developing, i.e. modeling conceptual route knowledge and then > replaying landmarked routes for learning purposes. Implementing a > keylogger could be another interesting place to start using this tool > as you may see all the possible methods to intercept a keystroke. > Concerning debugging I didn't experimented, but maybe a situation > where a click freezes the image...IIRC there was a bug in Pharo trying > to grab the world and then releasing the attached world... now is > somewhat closed but is a possible scenario to see the stack trace. > Cheers, > > HernÃ¡n > > 2009/12/6 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu>: >> Hi HernÃ¡n, >> >> Can you describe a situation when you needed this? >> >> Alexandre >> >> >> On 6 Dec 2009, at 04:25, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand wrote: >> >>> Dear all, >>> I've attached a little cool tool for intercepting Morphic events I >>> just resurrected today, from the class comments: >>> >>> This morph is a button which, when pressed, begins listening to the >>> hand's event stream. When an even of the appropriate type is >>> encountered, this morph intercepts it and traces the dispatch of the >>> event using MessageSendTree, and opens a SendTreeExplorer on the >>> results. This is useful for debugging parts of the UI process which >>> are otherwise difficult to trace. The eventType can be any of the >>> Morphic event types, but #mouseUp, #mouseDown, and #keystroke are by >>> far the most useful because they are the triggers for the majority of >>> actual UI activity. >>> >>> This is a list of morphic events to try: >>> >>> #mouseDown >>> #mouseMove >>> #mouseUp >>> #mouseOver >>> #mouseEnter >>> #mouseLeave >>> #mouseLeaveDragging >>> >>> #keystroke >>> #keyDown >>> #keyUp >>> >>> #unknown >>> #click >>> >>> To install it load first MessageSendTree. The original author is Jesse >>> Welton http://jwelton.v-space.org/squeak/ >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> HernÃ¡n >>> <MessageSendTree-hfm.1.mcz><EventInterceptor-hfm. >>> 1.mcz>_______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Dec. 9, 2009

[Pharo-project] gofer is cooooool

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

now with the pull I could dl all the petitParser...coral and work in the library without net. My gut feeling is that you will soon do Sync :) Here is what I do rigth now. I imagine that soon or later somebody will do a simple interface or add button to MCBrowser to do that with one menu. sync "to sync local and remote repositories" "self sync" Gofer new squeaksource: 'Coral'; addVersion: 'Coral'; addVersion: 'LoadCoral'; push. Gofer new squeaksource: 'Coral'; addVersion: 'Coral'; addVersion: 'LoadCoral'; pull. Stef

Dec. 9, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Gofer git

by Sean Allen

On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 7:28 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>wrote: > Hi guys > > I do not know if you noticed that with the latest version of Gofer you can > get a full git behavior > > Gofer new > squeaksource: 'PharoTaskForces'; > addPackage: 'RPackage'; > pull > > to pull all the packages pubslihed and fill up your local cache > > Gofer new > squeaksource: 'PharoTaskForces'; > addPackage: 'RPackage'; > push > > to push your local saved versions to the repository.... > > Of course it means that you can build a database and when you run your > script > the cache is checked first.... so yes you can work in the train :) > > Tx lukas > > That is awesome.

Dec. 9, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] can I debug a primitive?

by Alexandre Bergel

> now, the question is, should I be able to put a self halt there and > debug it? I tried but I did nothing. Is this possible ? I thought > it was :( I do not know for now, for few years ago you could. Simply adding a 'self halt' in the VM code or pressing Cmd-. while executing would popup a debugger. Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Dec. 9, 2009

[Pharo-project] [Fwd: Re: DeprecationHistory]

by Alain Plantec

Dec. 9, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] EventInterceptor and MessageSendTree

by Alexandre Bergel

Looks good! Do you visualize those landmarked routes? Cheers, Alexandre On 7 Dec 2009, at 18:25, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand wrote: > Hi Alex, > Of course, I'm using it to observe what's the best place to hook an > interceptor (like a method wrapper) for a wayfinder tool I'm > developing, i.e. modeling conceptual route knowledge and then > replaying landmarked routes for learning purposes. Implementing a > keylogger could be another interesting place to start using this tool > as you may see all the possible methods to intercept a keystroke. > Concerning debugging I didn't experimented, but maybe a situation > where a click freezes the image...IIRC there was a bug in Pharo trying > to grab the world and then releasing the attached world... now is > somewhat closed but is a possible scenario to see the stack trace. > Cheers, > > HernÃ¡n > > 2009/12/6 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu>: >> Hi HernÃ¡n, >> >> Can you describe a situation when you needed this? >> >> Alexandre >> >> >> On 6 Dec 2009, at 04:25, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand wrote: >> >>> Dear all, >>> I've attached a little cool tool for intercepting Morphic events I >>> just resurrected today, from the class comments: >>> >>> This morph is a button which, when pressed, begins listening to the >>> hand's event stream. When an even of the appropriate type is >>> encountered, this morph intercepts it and traces the dispatch of the >>> event using MessageSendTree, and opens a SendTreeExplorer on the >>> results. This is useful for debugging parts of the UI process which >>> are otherwise difficult to trace. The eventType can be any of the >>> Morphic event types, but #mouseUp, #mouseDown, and #keystroke are by >>> far the most useful because they are the triggers for the majority >>> of >>> actual UI activity. >>> >>> This is a list of morphic events to try: >>> >>> #mouseDown >>> #mouseMove >>> #mouseUp >>> #mouseOver >>> #mouseEnter >>> #mouseLeave >>> #mouseLeaveDragging >>> >>> #keystroke >>> #keyDown >>> #keyUp >>> >>> #unknown >>> #click >>> >>> To install it load first MessageSendTree. The original author is >>> Jesse >>> Welton http://jwelton.v-space.org/squeak/ >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> HernÃ¡n >>> <MessageSendTree-hfm.1.mcz><EventInterceptor-hfm. >>> 1.mcz>_______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Dec. 9, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Win32 Installers for 1.0 and 1.1alpha

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

thanks On Dec 9, 2009, at 1:37 PM, astares(a)gmx.de wrote: > The download page now includes TWO new setups for Win32 > > - Windows Installer 1.0-10500-rc1dev09.12.1 (Pharo 1.0 RC1) > - Windows Installer 1.1-11073-alphadev09.12.1 (Pharo 1.1 Alpha) > > similar to the ones release by Damien. > > The splash now also shows if it is the release candidate or the alpha. > Now also successfully tested on a Windows7 machine. > > Bye > T. > > > > -- > Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla Firefox 3.5 - > sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/chbrowser > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Dec. 9, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] package documentation viewer

by Alexandre Bergel

Looks good. Maybe this could be part of the Pharo website no ? Alexandre On 9 Dec 2009, at 07:49, laurent laffont wrote: > Hi, > > for fun and *for me*, I've made a small Seaside app to quickly > browse all documentation in a Pharo image. > It's package oriented, all classes and selectors comment on a > single page, so I can use search and print functions of my web > browser. > > Someone might have a use of it. It's here: http://www.squeaksource.com/SimpleWebDoc.html > Screenshots: http://picasaweb.google.fr/laurent.laffont/Simplewebdoc > > Laurent > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Dec. 9, 2009