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[Pharo-project] alwaysHideScrollbar, alwaysShowHScrollbar and alwaysShowVScrollbar

by Alain Plantec

Hi all, sorry for all these annoying questions ... I would simply like to remove these preferences with: alwaysHideScrollbar always false alwaysShowHScrollbar always true alwaysShowVScrollbar always true. I can easily put new settings for them but is it really mandatory ? Instead, removing them let the opportunity to replace ScrollPane/ScrollBar with GeneralScrollPane/GeneralScrollBar (which are unused whereas it seems to me that they are cleaner and more simple) what do you think ? thanks Alain

Dec. 17, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Rome port

by Alexandre Bergel

> I'll add building a RomePlugin for Squeak V5.0 to my list of things > to do for Christmas. Would be a great gift! Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Dec. 17, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Rome port

by John M McIntosh

Ya, for years now I've shipped the latest Rome plugin, which BTW I did compile, within the Squeak macintosh carbon VM. It's version 1.2.1 Likely the one https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/25047/RomePlugin.bundle.zip should disappear to avoid confusion. Just use a 4.2.2 VM I'll add building a RomePlugin for Squeak V5.0 to my list of things to do for Christmas. On 2009-12-17, at 9:38 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > Michael, this is an excellent start! > Thanks for this. This is important. > >> You will need the RomePlugin for your platform. >> https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/25047/RomePlugin.bundle.zip >> https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/25046/rome.zip > > There is a plugin next to the MacOSX VM. I do not know whether this is > the same version of the plugin -- =========================================================================== John M. McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> Twitter: squeaker68882 Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com ===========================================================================

Dec. 17, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Rome port

by Alexandre Bergel

Michael, this is an excellent start! Thanks for this. This is important. > You will need the RomePlugin for your platform. > https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/25047/RomePlugin.bundle.zip > https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/25046/rome.zip There is a plugin next to the MacOSX VM. I do not know whether this is the same version of the plugin. > To load: > > Get these two packages from PharoInbox (for now) > Graphics-MichaelRueger.168 > FreeType-MichaelRueger.498 Unfortunately, I cannot load Graphics or FreeType. When I load Graphics, the image freeze When I load FreeType, I have an error: CompositionScanner does not understand setFont > To load Rome: > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Gofer new impara: 'RomePharo'; addPackage: 'Rome-BalloonCanvas'; addPackage: 'Rome-Base'; addPackage: 'Rome-PluginCanvas'; addPackage: 'Rome-Fonts'; addPackage: 'Rome-Demo'; addPackage: 'Rome-Reference'; load -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= The script above loads fine in 10500. > Make sure that Freetype fonts are loaded: > > FreeTypeFontProvider current loadFromSystem. > RomeFontManager resetDefault Some of the demo work: RomeDemo demoMovingCar RomeDemo demoGradients Some of them does not work: RomeDemo demoDrawFreetypeString RomeDemo demoStringWheel ... I can provide help if necessary (limited although). I would like to use Rome for Mondrian. Is Rome based on Cairo? If yes, which version of Cairo, the last one? Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Dec. 17, 2009

[Pharo-project] Latest OB broken in PharoCore

by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand

Hi, I've installed OB with the following script (from http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/RewriteTools) in Pharo-Core: Gofer new squeaksource: 'rb'; addPackage: 'AST-Core'; addPackage: 'Refactoring-Core'; addPackage: 'Refactoring-Spelling'; renggli: 'omnibrowser'; addPackage: 'OmniBrowser'; addPackage: 'OB-Standard'; addPackage: 'OB-Morphic'; addPackage: 'OB-Shout'; addPackage: 'OB-Refactory'; addPackage: 'OB-Regex'; load. but when opening an OB system browser there is a MNU related with OBShoutPlatform: 17 December 2009 2:21:19 pm VM: Win32 - IX86 - NT - Squeak3.10.2 of '5 June 2008' [latest update: #7179] Image: PharoCore1.1ALPHA [Latest update: #11106] SecurityManager state: Restricted: false FileAccess: true SocketAccess: true OBShoutPlatform(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #build: Receiver: an OBShoutPlatform Arguments and temporary variables: aMessage: build: an OBSystemBrowser exception: MessageNotUnderstood: OBShoutPlatform>>build: resumeValue: nil Receiver's instance variables: an OBShoutPlatform OBShoutPlatform(OBMorphicPlatform)>>handleBrowseRequest: Receiver: an OBShoutPlatform Arguments and temporary variables: request: OBBrowseRequest Receiver's instance variables: an OBShoutPlatform OBBrowseRequest>>handleWith: Receiver: OBBrowseRequest Arguments and temporary variables: anObject: an OBShoutPlatform Receiver's instance variables: messageText: nil tag: nil signalContext: OBBrowseRequest(Exception)>>signal handlerContext: nil outerContext: nil browser: an OBSystemBrowser OBBrowseRequest(OBInteractionRequest)>>defaultAction Receiver: OBBrowseRequest Arguments and temporary variables: Receiver's instance variables: messageText: nil tag: nil signalContext: OBBrowseRequest(Exception)>>signal handlerContext: nil outerContext: nil browser: an OBSystemBrowser UndefinedObject>>handleSignal: Receiver: nil Arguments and temporary variables: exception: OBBrowseRequest Receiver's instance variables: nil MethodContext(ContextPart)>>handleSignal: Receiver: BlockClosure>>on:do: Arguments and temporary variables: exception: OBBrowseRequest val: nil Receiver's instance variables: sender: PasteUpMorph>>becomeActiveDuring: pc: 17 stackp: 3 method: (BlockClosure>>#on:do: "a CompiledMethod(3772)") closureOrNil: nil receiver: [closure] in PasteUpMorph>>becomeActiveDuring: OBBrowseRequest(Exception)>>signal Receiver: OBBrowseRequest Arguments and temporary variables: Receiver's instance variables: messageText: nil tag: nil signalContext: OBBrowseRequest(Exception)>>signal handlerContext: nil outerContext: nil browser: an OBSystemBrowser OBBrowseRequest class>>signal: Receiver: OBBrowseRequest Arguments and temporary variables: aBrowser: an OBSystemBrowser Receiver's instance variables: superclass: OBInteractionRequest methodDict: a MethodDictionary(#browser->(OBBrowseRequest>>#browser "a Compiled...etc... format: 142 instanceVariables: #('browser') organization: ('accessing' browser browser:) ('dispatching' handleWith:) ('test...etc... subclasses: nil name: #OBBrowseRequest classPool: nil sharedPools: nil environment: Smalltalk category: #'OmniBrowser-Notifications' traitComposition: {} localSelectors: nil OBSystemBrowser(OBBrowser)>>open Receiver: an OBSystemBrowser Arguments and temporary variables: Receiver's instance variables: panels: an OrderedCollection(an OBColumnPanel an OBFixedButtonPanel an OBDefini...etc... announcer: an OBAnnouncer cmdFactories: {OBCmdRemoveClass. ORCmdFormat. OBCmdRevertMethod. OBCmdRenameCat...etc... hasChanges: nil OBSystemBrowser class(OBBrowser class)>>open Receiver: OBSystemBrowser Arguments and temporary variables: Receiver's instance variables: superclass: OBCodeBrowser methodDict: a MethodDictionary(#defaultBackgroundColor->(OBSystemBrowser>>#defa...etc... format: 138 instanceVariables: nil organization: ('morphic' defaultBackgroundColor labelString) ('testing' isClass...etc... subclasses: nil name: #OBSystemBrowser classPool: nil sharedPools: nil environment: Smalltalk category: #'OB-Standard-Browsers' traitComposition: {} localSelectors: nil OBSystemBrowserAdaptor class>>open Receiver: OBSystemBrowserAdaptor Arguments and temporary variables: Receiver's instance variables: superclass: Object methodDict: a MethodDictionary(#labelString->(OBSystemBrowserAdaptor>>#labelStr...etc... format: 134 instanceVariables: #('class' 'selector') organization: ('registry protocol' labelString openEditString: setClass:selecto...etc... subclasses: nil name: #OBSystemBrowserAdaptor classPool: nil sharedPools: nil environment: Smalltalk category: #'OB-Standard-Utilities' traitComposition: {} localSelectors: nil StandardToolSet class>>openClassBrowser Receiver: StandardToolSet Arguments and temporary variables: Receiver's instance variables: superclass: Object methodDict: a MethodDictionary() format: 2 instanceVariables: nil organization: ('as yet unclassified') subclasses: nil name: #StandardToolSet classPool: nil sharedPools: nil environment: Smalltalk category: #'Tools-Base' traitComposition: nil localSelectors: nil [] in ToggleMenuItemMorph(MenuItemMorph)>>invokeWithEvent: Receiver: a ToggleMenuItemMorph(1516)'Class Browser' Arguments and temporary variables: evt: [835@167 mouseUp 23822953 nil] selArgCount: #(0) Receiver's instance variables: bounds: 795@165 corner: 929@177 owner: a MenuMorph(1298) submorphs: #() fullBounds: 795@165 corner: 929@177 color: Color black extension: a MorphExtension (2377) font: a StrikeFontSet(Accuny12 12) emphasis: 0 contents: 'Class Browser' hasFocus: false isEnabled: true subMenu: nil isSelected: false target: StandardToolSet selector: #openClassBrowser arguments: #() icon: nil getStateSelector: nil enablementSelector: nil keyText: nil BlockClosure>>ensure: Receiver: [closure] in ToggleMenuItemMorph(MenuItemMorph)>>invokeWithEvent: Arguments and temporary variables: aBlock: [closure] in CursorWithMask(Cursor)>>showWhile: returnValue: nil b: nil Receiver's instance variables: outerContext: ToggleMenuItemMorph(MenuItemMorph)>>invokeWithEvent: startpc: 136 numArgs: 0 CursorWithMask(Cursor)>>showWhile: Receiver: ((CursorWithMask extent: 16@16 depth: 1 fromArray: #( 2r0 2r10000000000000000000000...etc... Arguments and temporary variables: aBlock: [closure] in ToggleMenuItemMorph(MenuItemMorph)>>invokeWithEvent: oldcursor: ((CursorWithMask extent: 16@16 depth: 1 fromArray: #( 2r0 2r1...etc... Receiver's instance variables: bits: a Bitmap of length 16 width: 16 height: 16 depth: 1 offset: -1@-1 maskForm: Form(16x16x1) ToggleMenuItemMorph(MenuItemMorph)>>invokeWithEvent: Receiver: a ToggleMenuItemMorph(1516)'Class Browser' Arguments and temporary variables: evt: [835@167 mouseUp 23822953 nil] w: a PasteUpMorph(1622) [world] selArgCount: #(0) Receiver's instance variables: bounds: 795@165 corner: 929@177 owner: a MenuMorph(1298) submorphs: #() fullBounds: 795@165 corner: 929@177 color: Color black extension: a MorphExtension (2377) font: a StrikeFontSet(Accuny12 12) emphasis: 0 contents: 'Class Browser' hasFocus: false isEnabled: true subMenu: nil isSelected: false target: StandardToolSet selector: #openClassBrowser arguments: #() icon: nil getStateSelector: nil enablementSelector: nil keyText: nil ToggleMenuItemMorph(MenuItemMorph)>>mouseUp: Receiver: a ToggleMenuItemMorph(1516)'Class Browser' Arguments and temporary variables: evt: [835@167 mouseUp 23822953 nil] Receiver's instance variables: bounds: 795@165 corner: 929@177 owner: a MenuMorph(1298) submorphs: #() fullBounds: 795@165 corner: 929@177 color: Color black extension: a MorphExtension (2377) font: a StrikeFontSet(Accuny12 12) emphasis: 0 contents: 'Class Browser' hasFocus: false isEnabled: true subMenu: nil isSelected: false target: StandardToolSet selector: #openClassBrowser arguments: #() icon: nil getStateSelector: nil enablementSelector: nil keyText: nil ToggleMenuItemMorph(MenuItemMorph)>>handleMouseUp: Receiver: a ToggleMenuItemMorph(1516)'Class Browser' Arguments and temporary variables: anEvent: [835@167 mouseUp 23822953 nil] Receiver's instance variables: bounds: 795@165 corner: 929@177 owner: a MenuMorph(1298) submorphs: #() fullBounds: 795@165 corner: 929@177 color: Color black extension: a MorphExtension (2377) font: a StrikeFontSet(Accuny12 12) emphasis: 0 contents: 'Class Browser' hasFocus: false isEnabled: true subMenu: nil isSelected: false target: StandardToolSet selector: #openClassBrowser arguments: #() icon: nil getStateSelector: nil enablementSelector: nil keyText: nil MouseButtonEvent>>sentTo: Receiver: [835@167 mouseUp 23822953 nil] Arguments and temporary variables: anObject: a ToggleMenuItemMorph(1516)'Class Browser' Receiver's instance variables: timeStamp: 23822953 source: a HandMorph(3216) windowIndex: nil type: #mouseUp buttons: 0 position: 835@167 handler: nil wasHandled: true whichButton: 4 ToggleMenuItemMorph(Morph)>>handleEvent: Receiver: a ToggleMenuItemMorph(1516)'Class Browser' Arguments and temporary variables: anEvent: [835@167 mouseUp 23822953 nil] Receiver's instance variables: bounds: 795@165 corner: 929@177 owner: a MenuMorph(1298) submorphs: #() fullBounds: 795@165 corner: 929@177 color: Color black extension: a MorphExtension (2377) font: a StrikeFontSet(Accuny12 12) emphasis: 0 contents: 'Class Browser' hasFocus: false isEnabled: true subMenu: nil isSelected: false target: StandardToolSet selector: #openClassBrowser arguments: #() icon: nil getStateSelector: nil enablementSelector: nil keyText: nil MorphicEventDispatcher>>dispatchDefault:with: Receiver: a MorphicEventDispatcher Arguments and temporary variables: anEvent: [835@167 mouseUp 23822953 nil] aMorph: a ToggleMenuItemMorph(1516)'Class Browser' localEvt: nil index: 1 child: nil morphs: #() inside: true Receiver's instance variables: lastType: #mouseUp lastDispatch: #dispatchDefault:with: MorphicEventDispatcher>>dispatchEvent:with: Receiver: a MorphicEventDispatcher Arguments and temporary variables: anEvent: [835@167 mouseUp 23822953 nil] aMorph: a ToggleMenuItemMorph(1516)'Class Browser' Receiver's instance variables: lastType: #mouseUp lastDispatch: #dispatchDefault:with: ToggleMenuItemMorph(Morph)>>processEvent:using: Receiver: a ToggleMenuItemMorph(1516)'Class Browser' Arguments and temporary variables: anEvent: [835@167 mouseUp 23822953 nil] defaultDispatcher: a MorphicEventDispatcher Receiver's instance variables: bounds: 795@165 corner: 929@177 owner: a MenuMorph(1298) submorphs: #() fullBounds: 795@165 corner: 929@177 color: Color black extension: a MorphExtension (2377) font: a StrikeFontSet(Accuny12 12) emphasis: 0 contents: 'Class Browser' hasFocus: false isEnabled: true subMenu: nil isSelected: false target: StandardToolSet selector: #openClassBrowser arguments: #() icon: nil getStateSelector: nil enablementSelector: nil keyText: nil MorphicEventDispatcher>>dispatchDefault:with: Receiver: a MorphicEventDispatcher Arguments and temporary variables: anEvent: [835@167 mouseUp 23822953 nil] aMorph: a MenuMorph(1298) localEvt: [835@167 mouseUp 23822953 nil] index: 1 child: a ToggleMenuItemMorph(1516)'Class Browser' morphs: an Array(a ToggleMenuItemMorph(1516)'Class Browser' a ToggleMenuItemMor...etc... inside: false Receiver's instance variables: lastType: #mouseUp lastDispatch: #dispatchDefault:with: MorphicEventDispatcher>>dispatchEvent:with: Receiver: a MorphicEventDispatcher Arguments and temporary variables: anEvent: [835@167 mouseUp 23822953 nil] aMorph: a MenuMorph(1298) Receiver's instance variables: lastType: #mouseUp lastDispatch: #dispatchDefault:with: MenuMorph(Morph)>>processEvent:using: Receiver: a MenuMorph(1298) Arguments and temporary variables: anEvent: [835@167 mouseUp 23822953 nil] defaultDispatcher: a MorphicEventDispatcher Receiver's instance variables: bounds: 791@161 corner: 933@336 owner: nil submorphs: an Array(a ToggleMenuItemMorph(1516)'Class Browser' a ToggleMenuItem...etc... fullBounds: 791@161 corner: 934@337 color: (Color r: 0.871 g: 0.871 b: 0.871) extension: a MorphExtension (4004) [other: (basicColor -> (Color r: 0.784 g: 0...etc... borderWidth: 1 borderColor: Color gray defaultTarget: a TheWorldMenu selectedItem: a ToggleMenuItemMorph(1516)'Class Browser' stayUp: false popUpOwner: a ToggleMenuItemMorph(2693)'Tools' activeSubMenu: nil activatorDockingBar: nil embeddable: nil MenuMorph(Morph)>>processEvent: Receiver: a MenuMorph(1298) Arguments and temporary variables: anEvent: [835@167 mouseUp 23822953 nil] Receiver's instance variables: bounds: 791@161 corner: 933@336 owner: nil submorphs: an Array(a ToggleMenuItemMorph(1516)'Class Browser' a ToggleMenuItem...etc... fullBounds: 791@161 corner: 934@337 color: (Color r: 0.871 g: 0.871 b: 0.871) extension: a MorphExtension (4004) [other: (basicColor -> (Color r: 0.784 g: 0...etc... borderWidth: 1 borderColor: Color gray defaultTarget: a TheWorldMenu selectedItem: a ToggleMenuItemMorph(1516)'Class Browser' stayUp: false popUpOwner: a ToggleMenuItemMorph(2693)'Tools' activeSubMenu: nil activatorDockingBar: nil embeddable: nil MenuMorph>>handleFocusEvent: Receiver: a MenuMorph(1298) Arguments and temporary variables: evt: [835@167 mouseUp 23822953 nil] Receiver's instance variables: bounds: 791@161 corner: 933@336 owner: nil submorphs: an Array(a ToggleMenuItemMorph(1516)'Class Browser' a ToggleMenuItem...etc... fullBounds: 791@161 corner: 934@337 color: (Color r: 0.871 g: 0.871 b: 0.871) extension: a MorphExtension (4004) [other: (basicColor -> (Color r: 0.784 g: 0...etc... borderWidth: 1 borderColor: Color gray defaultTarget: a TheWorldMenu selectedItem: a ToggleMenuItemMorph(1516)'Class Browser' stayUp: false popUpOwner: a ToggleMenuItemMorph(2693)'Tools' activeSubMenu: nil activatorDockingBar: nil embeddable: nil [] in HandMorph>>sendFocusEvent:to:clear: Receiver: a HandMorph(3216) Arguments and temporary variables: anEvent: [835@167 mouseUp 23822953 nil] focusHolder: a MenuMorph(1298) result: #(nil) Receiver's instance variables: bounds: 709@476 corner: 725@492 owner: a PasteUpMorph(1622) [world] submorphs: #() fullBounds: 709@476 corner: 725@492 color: Color blue extension: a MorphExtension (539) [eventHandler = an EventHandler] mouseFocus: nil keyboardFocus: nil eventListeners: nil mouseListeners: nil keyboardListeners: nil mouseClickState: nil mouseOverHandler: a MouseOverHandler lastMouseEvent: [709@476 mouseUp 23973171 nil] targetOffset: 17@12 damageRecorder: a DamageRecorder cacheCanvas: nil cachedCanvasHasHoles: true temporaryCursor: nil temporaryCursorOffset: nil hardwareCursor: nil hasChanged: true savedPatch: nil userInitials: '' lastEventBuffer: #(1 23973171 709 476 0 0 0 1) lastKeyScanCode: 77 combinedChar: nil [] in PasteUpMorph>>becomeActiveDuring: Receiver: a PasteUpMorph(1622) [world] Arguments and temporary variables: aBlock: [closure] in HandMorph>>sendFocusEvent:to:clear: Receiver's instance variables: bounds: 0@0 corner: 1280@751 owner: nil submorphs: an Array(a TaskbarMorph(3095) a SystemWindow(770) a SystemWindow(359...etc... fullBounds: 0@0 corner: 1280@751 color: (Color r: 0.97 g: 0.98 b: 1.0) extension: a MorphExtension (2543) [eventHandler = an EventHandler] [other: (...etc... borderWidth: 0 borderColor: (Color r: 0.03 g: 0.02 b: 0.0) model: a MorphicModel(1926) cursor: 1 padding: 3 backgroundMorph: nil isPartsBin: nil autoLineLayout: false indicateCursor: nil resizeToFit: nil worldState: a WorldState griddingOn: nil BlockClosure>>on:do: Receiver: [closure] in PasteUpMorph>>becomeActiveDuring: Arguments and temporary variables: exception: Error handlerAction: [closure] in PasteUpMorph>>becomeActiveDuring: handlerActive: false Receiver's instance variables: outerContext: PasteUpMorph>>becomeActiveDuring: startpc: 67 numArgs: 0 PasteUpMorph>>becomeActiveDuring: Receiver: a PasteUpMorph(1622) [world] Arguments and temporary variables: aBlock: [closure] in HandMorph>>sendFocusEvent:to:clear: priorWorld: a PasteUpMorph(1622) [world] priorHand: a HandMorph(3216) priorEvent: [835@167 mouseOver red nil nil] Receiver's instance variables: bounds: 0@0 corner: 1280@751 owner: nil submorphs: an Array(a TaskbarMorph(3095) a SystemWindow(770) a SystemWindow(359...etc... fullBounds: 0@0 corner: 1280@751 color: (Color r: 0.97 g: 0.98 b: 1.0) extension: a MorphExtension (2543) [eventHandler = an EventHandler] [other: (...etc... borderWidth: 0 borderColor: (Color r: 0.03 g: 0.02 b: 0.0) model: a MorphicModel(1926) cursor: 1 padding: 3 backgroundMorph: nil isPartsBin: nil autoLineLayout: false indicateCursor: nil resizeToFit: nil worldState: a WorldState griddingOn: nil HandMorph>>sendFocusEvent:to:clear: Receiver: a HandMorph(3216) Arguments and temporary variables: anEvent: [835@167 mouseUp 23822953 nil] focusHolder: a MenuMorph(1298) aBlock: [closure] in HandMorph>>sendMouseEvent: w: a PasteUpMorph(1622) [world] result: #(nil) Receiver's instance variables: bounds: 709@476 corner: 725@492 owner: a PasteUpMorph(1622) [world] submorphs: #() fullBounds: 709@476 corner: 725@492 color: Color blue extension: a MorphExtension (539) [eventHandler = an EventHandler] mouseFocus: nil keyboardFocus: nil eventListeners: nil mouseListeners: nil keyboardListeners: nil mouseClickState: nil mouseOverHandler: a MouseOverHandler lastMouseEvent: [709@476 mouseUp 23973171 nil] targetOffset: 17@12 damageRecorder: a DamageRecorder cacheCanvas: nil cachedCanvasHasHoles: true temporaryCursor: nil temporaryCursorOffset: nil hardwareCursor: nil hasChanged: true savedPatch: nil userInitials: '' lastEventBuffer: #(1 23973171 709 476 0 0 0 1) lastKeyScanCode: 77 combinedChar: nil HandMorph>>sendEvent:focus:clear: Receiver: a HandMorph(3216) Arguments and temporary variables: anEvent: [835@167 mouseUp 23822953 nil] focusHolder: a MenuMorph(1298) aBlock: [closure] in HandMorph>>sendMouseEvent: result: nil Receiver's instance variables: bounds: 709@476 corner: 725@492 owner: a PasteUpMorph(1622) [world] submorphs: #() fullBounds: 709@476 corner: 725@492 color: Color blue extension: a MorphExtension (539) [eventHandler = an EventHandler] mouseFocus: nil keyboardFocus: nil eventListeners: nil mouseListeners: nil keyboardListeners: nil mouseClickState: nil mouseOverHandler: a MouseOverHandler lastMouseEvent: [709@476 mouseUp 23973171 nil] targetOffset: 17@12 damageRecorder: a DamageRecorder cacheCanvas: nil cachedCanvasHasHoles: true temporaryCursor: nil temporaryCursorOffset: nil hardwareCursor: nil hasChanged: true savedPatch: nil userInitials: '' lastEventBuffer: #(1 23973171 709 476 0 0 0 1) lastKeyScanCode: 77 combinedChar: nil HandMorph>>sendMouseEvent: Receiver: a HandMorph(3216) Arguments and temporary variables: anEvent: [835@167 mouseUp 23822953 nil] Receiver's instance variables: bounds: 709@476 corner: 725@492 owner: a PasteUpMorph(1622) [world] submorphs: #() fullBounds: 709@476 corner: 725@492 color: Color blue extension: a MorphExtension (539) [eventHandler = an EventHandler] mouseFocus: nil keyboardFocus: nil eventListeners: nil mouseListeners: nil keyboardListeners: nil mouseClickState: nil mouseOverHandler: a MouseOverHandler lastMouseEvent: [709@476 mouseUp 23973171 nil] targetOffset: 17@12 damageRecorder: a DamageRecorder cacheCanvas: nil cachedCanvasHasHoles: true temporaryCursor: nil temporaryCursorOffset: nil hardwareCursor: nil hasChanged: true savedPatch: nil userInitials: '' lastEventBuffer: #(1 23973171 709 476 0 0 0 1) lastKeyScanCode: 77 combinedChar: nil HandMorph>>handleEvent: Receiver: a HandMorph(3216) Arguments and temporary variables: anEvent: [835@167 mouseUp 23822953 nil] evt: [835@167 mouseUp 23822953 nil] ofs: nil Receiver's instance variables: bounds: 709@476 corner: 725@492 owner: a PasteUpMorph(1622) [world] submorphs: #() fullBounds: 709@476 corner: 725@492 color: Color blue extension: a MorphExtension (539) [eventHandler = an EventHandler] mouseFocus: nil keyboardFocus: nil eventListeners: nil mouseListeners: nil keyboardListeners: nil mouseClickState: nil mouseOverHandler: a MouseOverHandler lastMouseEvent: [709@476 mouseUp 23973171 nil] targetOffset: 17@12 damageRecorder: a DamageRecorder cacheCanvas: nil cachedCanvasHasHoles: true temporaryCursor: nil temporaryCursorOffset: nil hardwareCursor: nil hasChanged: true savedPatch: nil userInitials: '' lastEventBuffer: #(1 23973171 709 476 0 0 0 1) lastKeyScanCode: 77 combinedChar: nil HandMorph>>processEvents Receiver: a HandMorph(3216) Arguments and temporary variables: evt: [835@167 mouseUp 23822953 nil] evtBuf: #(1 23822953 835 167 0 0 0 1) type: 1 hadAny: false Receiver's instance variables: bounds: 709@476 corner: 725@492 owner: a PasteUpMorph(1622) [world] submorphs: #() fullBounds: 709@476 corner: 725@492 color: Color blue extension: a MorphExtension (539) [eventHandler = an EventHandler] mouseFocus: nil keyboardFocus: nil eventListeners: nil mouseListeners: nil keyboardListeners: nil mouseClickState: nil mouseOverHandler: a MouseOverHandler lastMouseEvent: [709@476 mouseUp 23973171 nil] targetOffset: 17@12 damageRecorder: a DamageRecorder cacheCanvas: nil cachedCanvasHasHoles: true temporaryCursor: nil temporaryCursorOffset: nil hardwareCursor: nil hasChanged: true savedPatch: nil userInitials: '' lastEventBuffer: #(1 23973171 709 476 0 0 0 1) lastKeyScanCode: 77 combinedChar: nil [] in WorldState>>doOneCycleNowFor: Receiver: a WorldState Arguments and temporary variables: h: a HandMorph(3216) Receiver's instance variables: hands: an Array(a HandMorph(3216)) viewBox: 0@0 corner: 1280@751 canvas: a FormCanvas on: DisplayScreen(1280x751x32) damageRecorder: a DamageRecorder stepList: a Heap(StepMessage(#stepAt: -> a SystemWindow(770))(a SystemWindow(77...etc... lastStepTime: 23973261 lastStepMessage: nil lastCycleTime: 23973183 commandHistory: a CommandHistory alarms: a Heap() lastAlarmTime: 23973261 Array(SequenceableCollection)>>do: Receiver: an Array(a HandMorph(3216)) Arguments and temporary variables: aBlock: [closure] in WorldState>>doOneCycleNowFor: index: 1 indexLimiT: 1 Receiver's instance variables: an Array(a HandMorph(3216)) --- The full stack --- OBShoutPlatform(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #build: OBShoutPlatform(OBMorphicPlatform)>>handleBrowseRequest: OBBrowseRequest>>handleWith: OBBrowseRequest(OBInteractionRequest)>>defaultAction UndefinedObject>>handleSignal: MethodContext(ContextPart)>>handleSignal: OBBrowseRequest(Exception)>>signal OBBrowseRequest class>>signal: OBSystemBrowser(OBBrowser)>>open OBSystemBrowser class(OBBrowser class)>>open OBSystemBrowserAdaptor class>>open StandardToolSet class>>openClassBrowser [] in ToggleMenuItemMorph(MenuItemMorph)>>invokeWithEvent: BlockClosure>>ensure: CursorWithMask(Cursor)>>showWhile: ToggleMenuItemMorph(MenuItemMorph)>>invokeWithEvent: ToggleMenuItemMorph(MenuItemMorph)>>mouseUp: ToggleMenuItemMorph(MenuItemMorph)>>handleMouseUp: MouseButtonEvent>>sentTo: ToggleMenuItemMorph(Morph)>>handleEvent: MorphicEventDispatcher>>dispatchDefault:with: MorphicEventDispatcher>>dispatchEvent:with: ToggleMenuItemMorph(Morph)>>processEvent:using: MorphicEventDispatcher>>dispatchDefault:with: MorphicEventDispatcher>>dispatchEvent:with: MenuMorph(Morph)>>processEvent:using: MenuMorph(Morph)>>processEvent: MenuMorph>>handleFocusEvent: [] in HandMorph>>sendFocusEvent:to:clear: [] in PasteUpMorph>>becomeActiveDuring: BlockClosure>>on:do: PasteUpMorph>>becomeActiveDuring: HandMorph>>sendFocusEvent:to:clear: HandMorph>>sendEvent:focus:clear: HandMorph>>sendMouseEvent: HandMorph>>handleEvent: HandMorph>>processEvents [] in WorldState>>doOneCycleNowFor: Array(SequenceableCollection)>>do: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - WorldState>>handsDo: WorldState>>doOneCycleNowFor: WorldState>>doOneCycleFor: PasteUpMorph>>doOneCycle [] in Project class>>spawnNewProcess [] in BlockClosure>>newProcess HernÃ¡n

Dec. 17, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: [squeak-dev] Stuff

by Marcus Denker

>> However they didn't want to be involved in the politics, and I cant say I blame them. So let's see, what where our options last year? 1. Take over Squeak (just like Andreas did now) 2. Just step aside and do a fork. 3. Nicely ask to be involved with 3.11 1) was not possible. In 3.9, both Stef and me where in the Board. (We should not that we foundet it...) But Stef left in disgust as it became clear the people there were not willing to do *anything*. And I did not seek re-election after the community made it clear that they did not like our work on 3.9. (and there was a PhD Thesis to write...) As for 3: the community chose you to do 3.11! And it was made clear to us that we did everything wrong with 3.9. And everyone seemed happy to do what Squeakers do best: Discuss while doing nothing. The other thing then is etoys... we put some effort into etoys in 3.9 (merge with squeakland.org, merge with Diego's SmallLand which was the largest etoy installation at that point). But no child ever used it. There was no interaction with the people who worked (payed!!) on etoys *at all*. And it was clear that an etoys in Pharo would never be used. So why keep it? Especially as etoys is really not easy to maintain. (I personally rate it as unmaintainable. It's a mess of epic proportion). It's not an asset. It's a liability. But Squeak without etoys is not Squeak. So another name is quite the right thing to do, no? Than, why do we need something like Pharo anyway? The reason is that we used Squeak it *every* *single* *day*. We used Squeak for teaching, we used it do do research. Phd Students used it, Master Students used it. People that left the university started to use it in their company. So, I am a Researcher, and my point of view of "Why Pharo" is this: Doing Research is like exploring a mountain. A high mountain, the peak is covered in clouds, no idea where exactly it is an just how high the peak is... yet it's there. And you *want* to get there. So what would you do in this situation? There are four approaches: 1) Talk about The Peak, but don't do anything until someone invents a magical peak discovery device. 2) Go up. As far as you can. Do not waste time with acquiring good equipment, do not build camps. (building a camps is not your goal! the peak is!) 3) Go up. But while doing it, start to note how to improve your equipment. Seek good spots for putting up camps and storage for food. You will not find the peak this time. But you have learned a lot. You know where to put a camp. You know how to stock it. You know what equipment would simplify the next try. So you spend some energy... and haul up stuff to the secure place and build a camp. For sure, the next expedition can go *far far* higher! 4) Just build equipment down in the valley. Don't go up before it's perfect! So, I don't know what you would do. I would do 3). It has some really boring components, this Plan 3. Hauling stuff up the mountain is not fun. It's not glorious. And there are no Sherpas to hire. In Research at the University, there are no engineers. The PhD-Students and Researchers need to cary everything themselves... not working together, not having fun together while doing will mean that you can't do it. So Pharo, up to now, is just that: Hauling equipment and food up the mountain to form a stabilized camp. It's not really that high. (other expeditions are laughing: "This is a trivial. What idiots. They have no Vision"). But they have *no camp* at all. And as soon as ours is ready, we rest, and than we build the next... and the next, and the next. Higher and Higher up. I always wonder how high we would already be (with lots of equipment and well-rested), if we would have used this strategy the last 10 years for Squeak. But we did not. VPRI is doing 2). The Squeak community prefers 1). Squeak 3.11 was 4). But I fear, the magic device will never be discovered... and Squeak died in 3.11 because there was no visible artifact. And starting all the time from the bottom is just not going to work (it did in the 70ties, when hills where small... Dan wrote a paper about it even... but with the mountains of today, no way...). So... back to haulin' more stuff.... Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de

Dec. 17, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Call for companies using pharo to get a payed INRIA engineer

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

>> Hi Stef! > > There are several possibilities to get things sponsored by the european > community for software projects, coordination of software projects, e.t.c. > > E.g. Koffice and GnuPG had such sponsoring. Here in Berlin, we get several > projects with squeak at schools sponsored by EC. Pots are full. Ask s.b. who > is specialized on that ... dunnow your structures in france ... do you have a pointer on it in germany? Because this would be interesting. The problem is that we are too small (low visibility) Stef > regards, Guido Stepken > -- > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Dec. 17, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Call for companies using pharo to get a payed INRIA engineer

by Guido Stepken

StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > > > Hi guys > > we are writing a proposal to get an engineer for pharo from INRIA (nothing > is clear but we should at least try). > I learned this morning that we could apply. Some meetings are better than > others :) > So I have a small list but I'm sure that we have much more companies > around using pharo. > > Stef > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > Hi Stef! There are several possibilities to get things sponsored by the european community for software projects, coordination of software projects, e.t.c. E.g. Koffice and GnuPG had such sponsoring. Here in Berlin, we get several projects with squeak at schools sponsored by EC. Pots are full. Ask s.b. who is specialized on that ... dunnow your structures in france ... regards, Guido Stepken -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Call-for-companies-using-pharo-to-get-a-payed-INRIA-en… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Dec. 17, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] need hunter to kill the double paste bug.

by Michael Rueger

Do people actually experience the double paste problem on non-Mac platforms? John M McIntosh wrote: > Technically the behaviour between the the versions (3.x/4.x/5.x) > should be the same, if you can show it's not, then it's a bug. > > In 5.0 we see the keydown and record data, but we don't actually get > the character until text services decides what the unicode value is > going to be based on the keyboard/language & deadkey support. > > Some time after the keydown (one or more) Text services calls > insertText: on our view that then makes us generate the keydown, > keystroke event using the same millisecond clock value. > > Milliseconds later the key goes up and we generate the key up event > using the current clock time. Could there be an interaction between key events and clipboard access? Or a race conditions where the Mac menu and Squeak both process the paste event? I can't come up with any other explanation why double key events would only happen on CMD-v... That is maybe they are occurring on copy and cut as well, but we just won't notice... Michael

Dec. 17, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: [squeak-dev] Stuff

by keith

Anyhow, in reference to my comment to Eliot, my smalltalk contribution life died on the day Andreas took over squeak-dev, he with the help of the board murdered it. And I am afraid that it might be for good. This is probably a good thing because it was sucking up too much time and effort. It is a shame that the Bob based squeak 3.11 building process was actually complete, with automated testing demonstration within a day or so of completion. Bob is all there if you want it. If you had loaded squeaksource/Testing and contributed to it, and if you had loaded MC1.5 LevelPlayingField right from the start then perhaps I might be contributing to pharo now. However I do have other things to do, in my time as a full time carer I have discovered a cure for rape trauma, tourettes, and many other severe mental illnesses, so my time will be better spend continuing that research and documenting it. For example last year, I saw paranoid schizophrenia healed in a 20 minute counseling-like session. So applying a sense of perspective to the whole thing, who cares about a few bytes here and there, when you really do have an opportunity to change the world. There may be some books out in the next 5 years or so. I also need to raise a couple of million pounds to fund a rehabilitation facility for sufferers of Multiple Personality Disorder, my current specialism. so signing off Keith

Dec. 17, 2009