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Re: [Pharo-dev] Bloc status

by Sean P. DeNigris

Tudor Girba-2 wrote > Bloc is usable since half a year (the tutorial from ESUG was also given at > PharoDays and works out of the box). [not-a-rant ;)] After spending a good part of the day playing with Bloc, I'm wondering whether I am approaching it wrong. When I hear "useable", I think useful in real life scenarios - maybe not necessarily production, but at least day-to-day personal/in-house use. With many failing examples, deprecations, and seemingly minimally working text support (I was playing with BlTextElement, not looking for a full editor), I didn't find this to be the case. Am I missing something? Was "useable" meant in the sense of "ready for experimentation and feedback"? I am not complaining at all. I just want to be clear on the status so I effectively manage my expectations and find the best way to help out. Thanks! [/not-a-rant ;)] ----- Cheers, Sean -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Developers-f1294837.html

Oct. 23, 2017

Bloc Feedback

by Sean P. DeNigris

Highlights: - BlCornerRadii - 1st class corners - yay to the death of cryptic arrays for this kind of thing :) Questions: - How would one do e.g. a ticking clock in Bloc? The only possibly relevant example I see is BlAnimatedCursor. Is that a typical usage? One thing that I'm not sure how to translate to a BlElement is that the cursor seems to be responsible for starting and stopping the animation via #activateOn:, which doesn't exist for an element. How would one prevent an element's animation from continuing to run after a space was closed? - BlElement has 278 instance-side methods. A frequent battle cry against Morphic was the bloated Morph class with 899. Definitely an improvement, but are we "there yet"? - Does Bloc implement its own keybinding outside of "Keymapping" e.g. BlShortcut? If so, why? Will it ultimately be a replacement? - In BlTextEditElement class>>#exampleText, text construction seems awfully complex (`text := BrRopedText rope: (BrCollectionRope collection: (String loremIpsum: 30)). text attributes: { BrFontWeightAttribute bold }.`. How does that way contrast to e.g. `'X' asRopedText`? Problems: BlBasicExamples - #exampleShapes, select the yellow shape with red border -> inspector -> Transformations Tab -> Click on Composition -> "ShouldNotImplement: #multiplyOn: should not have been implemented in BlCompositeTransformation" - #exampleImageBackground -> "ShouldBeImplemented: #fillPath:withForm: should have been implemented in SpartaCairoFillPainter" BlTextEditElement class>>#exampleText - insert some characters and then press [delete] -> "Error: Illegal sub-sequence end index: 44" - There is aBlSelectionHandler, but I can't seem to select any of the text BrAttributeRopeExamples#>>simpleRope -> inspect return value -> In inspector, click on "Children" tab -> "Error: Improper store into indexable object" - In BlLinearLayoutExamples class>>#exampleVerticalLeftCenterRightRTL, - the red sub-element does `c linear horizontal alignLeft`, which is then overridden by its parent's `BlLinearLayout vertical "rightToLeft"`. Was it intentional to show the precedence because I found it confusing when an element that sent #alignLeft showed up on the right! - the yellow sub-element does not appear at all. Maybe it should do a `c vertical exact: 100.` like its siblings? - All BlAnimationExamples lead to deprecation warnings and DNU's, but *do not even attempt* #exampleBallsAnim or face endlessly multplying debugger windows! ----- Cheers, Sean -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Developers-f1294837.html

Oct. 23, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] Some french forgotten in QualityAssistant

by casimiro barreto

Indeed. Anyways the use of one or other word should be uniform. Em 22 de out de 2017 2:05 PM, "Pavel Krivanek" <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com> escreveu: > But "critique" IS English (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critique) " > Critic" is a person who makes critique. Actually, the Quality Assistant > is developed by people from Ukraine and they discovered that they did this > mistake too and they needed to rename all occurrences of the world "critic" > to "critique". > > -- Pavel > > 2017-10-22 17:45 GMT+02:00 casimiro barreto <casimiro.barreto(a)gmail.com>: > >> The packages of QualityAssistant in the catalog browser have some >> 'critique' instead of 'critic'. That causes some trouble. Look at >> ReSingleCritiqueEvent... >> >> Just saying... >> >> -- >> The information contained in this message is confidential and >> intended to the recipients specified in the headers. If you received >> this message by error, notify the sender immediately. The >> unauthorized use, disclosure, copy or alteration of this message >> are strictly forbidden and subjected to civil and criminal sanctions. >> > >

Oct. 23, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] Primitive Failed error trying openInExternalWindow

by Eduardo de Oliveira Padoan

Thanks, I will try it. I will check your game too, I like learning from examples. Em dom, 22 de out de 2017 18:14, ClÃ©ment Bera <bera.clement(a)gmail.com> escreveu: > Hi Eduardo, > > Your FFIStructures are not initialised (I thought this was solved in > latest Pharo 7 ? Maybe not integrated yet). Run: > > FFIExternalStructure allSubclassesDo: #rebuildFieldAccessors. > > Then your code should work. > > I wrote a simple game using Pharo/SDL2/Cairo and it works very well (50fps > without problems, responsiveness is really good, etc.), the ReadMe includes > how to run it on Ubuntu/Mac OS X/Windows, check here: > > https://github.com/clementbera/wizard-battle-arena > > Let me know if you have other questions. > > On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 6:28 PM, Eduardo de Oliveira Padoan < > eduardo.padoan(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, greetings! >> >> I was trying out some examples from the Pharo By Example book on the >> latest development version of Pharo, and I wanted to create a stand-alone >> window for a simple game on Ubuntu. So I found out the openInExternalWindow >> method, the window appears but I get this error that I couldn't understand, >> and could not find any reference to it online. So I'm not sure if it's a >> bug. >> >> The simplest way I found to reproduce it was: >> >> 'Hello' asMorph openInExternalWindow. >> >> I'm using Pharo 7 on Ubuntu 17.10. >> >> A copy of the stack: >> >> ByteArray(Object)>>primitiveFailed: >> ByteArray(Object)>>primitiveFailed >> ByteArray>>integerAt:size:signed: >> ByteArray>>unsignedLongAt: >> SDL_KeyDownEvent>>windowID >> OSSDL2Driver>>convertEvent: >> [ event := self convertEvent: sdlEvent. >> event ifNotNil: [ eventQueue nextPut: event ] ] in >> OSSDL2Driver>>processEvent: in Block: [ event := self convertEvent: >> sdlEvent.... >> BlockClosure>>on:do: >> OSSDL2Driver>>processEvent: >> OSSDL2Driver>>eventLoopProcessWithoutPlugin >> [ self eventLoopProcessWithoutPlugin ] in OSSDL2Driver>>setupEventLoop in >> Block: [ self eventLoopProcessWithoutPlugin ] >> [ self value. >> Processor terminateActive ] in BlockClosure>>newProcess in Block: [ self >> value.... >> >> But it seems incomplete. Any more information I can provide? >> >> Thank you. >> > > > > -- > ClÃ©ment BÃ©ra > Pharo consortium engineer > https://clementbera.wordpress.com/ > BÃ¢timent B 40, avenue Halley 59650 > <https://maps.google.com/?q=40,+avenue+Halley+59650%C2%A0Villeneuve+d'Ascq&entry=gmail&source=g>Villeneuve > d > <https://maps.google.com/?q=40,+avenue+Halley+59650%C2%A0Villeneuve+d'Ascq&entry=gmail&source=g> > 'Ascq > <https://maps.google.com/?q=40,+avenue+Halley+59650%C2%A0Villeneuve+d'Ascq&entry=gmail&source=g> >

Oct. 22, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] Primitive Failed error trying openInExternalWindow

by Eduardo de Oliveira Padoan

Thanks for the explanation Stef. It would probably be a good idea to have a kind of "reverse depreciation warning" in this method, as it seems like a newbie pitfall :P Em dom, 22 de out de 2017 17:44, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com> escreveu: > Hello Eduardo > > this method is not done to be invoked like that. In the future Pharo > will move to SDL (in fact to OSWindow based on SDL or other > framework). Right now OSWindow is not ready to be really used. > Right now what you should do is resize the main window the the size of > your largest morph. > We should definitively invest more in the deployment of Application. > > Stef > > On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 6:28 PM, Eduardo de Oliveira Padoan > <eduardo.padoan(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, greetings! > > > > I was trying out some examples from the Pharo By Example book on the > latest > > development version of Pharo, and I wanted to create a stand-alone window > > for a simple game on Ubuntu. So I found out the openInExternalWindow > method, > > the window appears but I get this error that I couldn't understand, and > > could not find any reference to it online. So I'm not sure if it's a bug. > > > > The simplest way I found to reproduce it was: > > > > 'Hello' asMorph openInExternalWindow. > > > > I'm using Pharo 7 on Ubuntu 17.10. > > > > A copy of the stack: > > > > ByteArray(Object)>>primitiveFailed: > > ByteArray(Object)>>primitiveFailed > > ByteArray>>integerAt:size:signed: > > ByteArray>>unsignedLongAt: > > SDL_KeyDownEvent>>windowID > > OSSDL2Driver>>convertEvent: > > [ event := self convertEvent: sdlEvent. > > event ifNotNil: [ eventQueue nextPut: event ] ] in > > OSSDL2Driver>>processEvent: in Block: [ event := self convertEvent: > > sdlEvent.... > > BlockClosure>>on:do: > > OSSDL2Driver>>processEvent: > > OSSDL2Driver>>eventLoopProcessWithoutPlugin > > [ self eventLoopProcessWithoutPlugin ] in OSSDL2Driver>>setupEventLoop in > > Block: [ self eventLoopProcessWithoutPlugin ] > > [ self value. > > Processor terminateActive ] in BlockClosure>>newProcess in Block: [ self > > value.... > > > > But it seems incomplete. Any more information I can provide? > > > > Thank you. > >

Oct. 22, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] Primitive Failed error trying openInExternalWindow

by ClÃ©ment Bera

Hi Eduardo, Your FFIStructures are not initialised (I thought this was solved in latest Pharo 7 ? Maybe not integrated yet). Run: FFIExternalStructure allSubclassesDo: #rebuildFieldAccessors. Then your code should work. I wrote a simple game using Pharo/SDL2/Cairo and it works very well (50fps without problems, responsiveness is really good, etc.), the ReadMe includes how to run it on Ubuntu/Mac OS X/Windows, check here: https://github.com/clementbera/wizard-battle-arena Let me know if you have other questions. On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 6:28 PM, Eduardo de Oliveira Padoan < eduardo.padoan(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, greetings! > > I was trying out some examples from the Pharo By Example book on the > latest development version of Pharo, and I wanted to create a stand-alone > window for a simple game on Ubuntu. So I found out the openInExternalWindow > method, the window appears but I get this error that I couldn't understand, > and could not find any reference to it online. So I'm not sure if it's a > bug. > > The simplest way I found to reproduce it was: > > 'Hello' asMorph openInExternalWindow. > > I'm using Pharo 7 on Ubuntu 17.10. > > A copy of the stack: > > ByteArray(Object)>>primitiveFailed: > ByteArray(Object)>>primitiveFailed > ByteArray>>integerAt:size:signed: > ByteArray>>unsignedLongAt: > SDL_KeyDownEvent>>windowID > OSSDL2Driver>>convertEvent: > [ event := self convertEvent: sdlEvent. > event ifNotNil: [ eventQueue nextPut: event ] ] in > OSSDL2Driver>>processEvent: in Block: [ event := self convertEvent: > sdlEvent.... > BlockClosure>>on:do: > OSSDL2Driver>>processEvent: > OSSDL2Driver>>eventLoopProcessWithoutPlugin > [ self eventLoopProcessWithoutPlugin ] in OSSDL2Driver>>setupEventLoop in > Block: [ self eventLoopProcessWithoutPlugin ] > [ self value. > Processor terminateActive ] in BlockClosure>>newProcess in Block: [ self > value.... > > But it seems incomplete. Any more information I can provide? > > Thank you. > -- ClÃ©ment BÃ©ra Pharo consortium engineer https://clementbera.wordpress.com/ BÃ¢timent B 40, avenue Halley 59650 Villeneuve d'Ascq

Oct. 22, 2017

Spec independent on Morphic

by Pavel Krivanek

Hi, as one part of preparations on switching to Bloc I tried to cut the Gordian knot of Spec and Morphic dependencies. I prepared a pull request that makes basic Spec packages, Text-Core, MenuRegistration and basic Keybinding packages independent on Morphic. We will probably need to solve some details but the most important parts are solved. Please review: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/383 prebuilt image: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-ci-jenkins2/job/Test%20pending%20pull%20request%2… Cheers, -- Pavel

Oct. 22, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] Primitive Failed error trying openInExternalWindow

by Stephane Ducasse

Hello Eduardo this method is not done to be invoked like that. In the future Pharo will move to SDL (in fact to OSWindow based on SDL or other framework). Right now OSWindow is not ready to be really used. Right now what you should do is resize the main window the the size of your largest morph. We should definitively invest more in the deployment of Application. Stef On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 6:28 PM, Eduardo de Oliveira Padoan <eduardo.padoan(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, greetings! > > I was trying out some examples from the Pharo By Example book on the latest > development version of Pharo, and I wanted to create a stand-alone window > for a simple game on Ubuntu. So I found out the openInExternalWindow method, > the window appears but I get this error that I couldn't understand, and > could not find any reference to it online. So I'm not sure if it's a bug. > > The simplest way I found to reproduce it was: > > 'Hello' asMorph openInExternalWindow. > > I'm using Pharo 7 on Ubuntu 17.10. > > A copy of the stack: > > ByteArray(Object)>>primitiveFailed: > ByteArray(Object)>>primitiveFailed > ByteArray>>integerAt:size:signed: > ByteArray>>unsignedLongAt: > SDL_KeyDownEvent>>windowID > OSSDL2Driver>>convertEvent: > [ event := self convertEvent: sdlEvent. > event ifNotNil: [ eventQueue nextPut: event ] ] in > OSSDL2Driver>>processEvent: in Block: [ event := self convertEvent: > sdlEvent.... > BlockClosure>>on:do: > OSSDL2Driver>>processEvent: > OSSDL2Driver>>eventLoopProcessWithoutPlugin > [ self eventLoopProcessWithoutPlugin ] in OSSDL2Driver>>setupEventLoop in > Block: [ self eventLoopProcessWithoutPlugin ] > [ self value. > Processor terminateActive ] in BlockClosure>>newProcess in Block: [ self > value.... > > But it seems incomplete. Any more information I can provide? > > Thank you.

Oct. 22, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] Some french forgotten in QualityAssistant

by Pavel Krivanek

But "critique" IS English (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critique) "Critic" is a person who makes critique. Actually, the Quality Assistant is developed by people from Ukraine and they discovered that they did this mistake too and they needed to rename all occurrences of the world "critic" to "critique". -- Pavel 2017-10-22 17:45 GMT+02:00 casimiro barreto <casimiro.barreto(a)gmail.com>: > The packages of QualityAssistant in the catalog browser have some > 'critique' instead of 'critic'. That causes some trouble. Look at > ReSingleCritiqueEvent... > > Just saying... > > -- > The information contained in this message is confidential and > intended to the recipients specified in the headers. If you received > this message by error, notify the sender immediately. The > unauthorized use, disclosure, copy or alteration of this message > are strictly forbidden and subjected to civil and criminal sanctions. >

Oct. 22, 2017

Some french forgotten in QualityAssistant

by casimiro barreto

The packages of QualityAssistant in the catalog browser have some 'critique' instead of 'critic'. That causes some trouble. Look at ReSingleCritiqueEvent... Just saying... -- The information contained in this message is confidential and intended to the recipients specified in the headers. If you received this message by error, notify the sender immediately. The unauthorized use, disclosure, copy or alteration of this message are strictly forbidden and subjected to civil and criminal sanctions.

Oct. 22, 2017