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Re: [Pharo-project] RC2, Metacello and image building

by Mariano Martinez Peck

2010/1/26 Miguel Enrique CobÃ¡ Martinez <miguel.coba(a)gmail.com> > El mar, 26-01-2010 a las 23:03 +0100, Mariano Martinez Peck escribiÃ³: > > Thanks Torsten, this is really cool :) > > > > I would like everybody gets the same idea as you: the current Dev > > image is JUST a standard, little combination of possibilities. But we > > have the tools and we already did the work so that everybody can > > create it's own Dev image, with it's own flavour, without too much > > pain, an using a PharoCore image as a base. That's why I would like to > > remove from Core as much as possible. > > > > Indeed that is how I work. I shamelessly use your ConfigurationOfPharo > to build my development images from a PharoCore image. > But for the production images, I use only the ConfigurationOfXXX needed > (that is, the ConfigurationOfAzteca, that is my application) and that > configuration references other ConfigurationsOfXXX as dependencies > (magma, RFB, Seaside28). This is then executed in a PharoCore image to > build the 2 images that makes my setup deploy. > > Yes, cool! That's exactly the idea :) Now I wonder....suppose I take a PharoCore, I run the ConfigurationOfMyApplication, that brings ALL I need to deploy my application, ok ? What about removing Metacello after the install ? I checked and the Metacello core install are 2MB more or less. So...I was thinking something like this: "Hi, I am metacello, I will download all you need and then I will disappear". In the same way we have the enusreMetacello we can have another called ensureUnloadMetacello or something like that that we can use in production images after the load. what do you think ? Cheers Mariano So, as Torsten said, Pharo isn't only about a new image release, but a > lot of tools that are enabling new ways to work in Smalltalk. > > This sounds great. > Cheers > > > > > BTW, it didn't work on Mac OS :( The problem is that the class > > has references to SqueakMap, which has removed quite a long in Pharo. > > > > Look ExternalWebBrowserMacOS >> isApplescriptAvailable > > > > Sorry I am not sure how to fix it. > > > > I attach PharoDebug.log. > > > > Cheers > > > > Mariano > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> > > wrote: > > from pharo-dev to a custom (seaside) application image. > > > > Read > > > > > http://astares.blogspot.com/2010/01/pharo-10-release-candidate-2-and-image.… > > > > Bye > > T. > > -- > > Nur noch bis 31.01.2010: DSL-Komplettpaket fÃ¼r 16,99 > > Euro/mtl.!* > > http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > Miguel CobÃ¡ > http://miguel.leugim.com.mx > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Jan. 27, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfAida is available

by Adrian Lienhard

Wow, its great to see all those configurations of external packages coming in! I think we need a way to catalog them now. Do we have somebody that likes to help maintaining this? My idea is to start small, i.e., with a wiki page similar to http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/PackagesTestedInPharo. We could have two categories, one "testing" and one "stable". New configurations start with testing and when they are known to work and their tests pass etc. we move them to "stable". Cheers, Adrian On Jan 27, 2010, at 04:22 , Dale Henrichs wrote: > Gofer new > squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; > package: 'ConfigurationOfAida'; > load. > > ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfAida) project version: '6.0') load. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Jan. 27, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] For those who use Nabble ....

by Adrian Lienhard

Geert, would it be possible to update the description of Pharo that currently reads "Pharo is a fork from the Squeak open-source Smalltalk."? I suggest: "Pharo's goal is to deliver a clean, innovative, free open-source Smalltalk environment. By providing a stable and small core system, excellent developer tools, and maintained releases, Pharo is an attractive platform to build and deploy mission critical Smalltalk applications. Pharo is MIT licensed and fosters a healthy ecosystem of both private and commercial contributors." Thanks, Adrian On Jan 27, 2010, at 08:44 , Adrian Lienhard wrote: > Thanks, Geert! > > I updated the web page. > > I added the general Nabble Smalltalk link in the FAQ. > > Cheers, > Adrian > > > On Jan 27, 2010, at 07:54 , laurent laffont wrote: > >> On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 11:33 PM, Stan Shepherd >> <stan.shepherd414(a)gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> >>> That's really neat Geert. Nice to view Smalltalk as one community: >>> http://n4.nabble.com/Smalltalk-f1294792.topics.html >>> ...Stan >>> >>> >> >> Really cool ! Is it possible to add this link on the pharo website ? >> >> Larent >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Jan. 27, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] For those who use Nabble ....

by Adrian Lienhard

Thanks, Geert! I updated the web page. I added the general Nabble Smalltalk link in the FAQ. Cheers, Adrian On Jan 27, 2010, at 07:54 , laurent laffont wrote: > On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 11:33 PM, Stan Shepherd > <stan.shepherd414(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> >> That's really neat Geert. Nice to view Smalltalk as one community: >> http://n4.nabble.com/Smalltalk-f1294792.topics.html >> ...Stan >> >> > > Really cool ! Is it possible to add this link on the pharo website ? > > Larent > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Jan. 27, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Video Course on Smalltalk

by laurent laffont

Hi, Can I put the preview on http://pharocasts.blogspot.com with a link to your website ? Cheers, Laurent On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Davide Varvello <varvello(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > I apologize for this brief announcement, but I'm really happy to tell you > that I've been working on a video course on Smalltalk. Now the first video > is available and all the lessons can be pre-ordered here > http://it.thinkcode.tv/catalogo/programmare-in-smalltalk/ > Actually the course is in Italian, but there will be an English version > soon. > I mainly use Pharo so the community should be happy :-). > > Thanks > Davide > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Jan. 27, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] For those who use Nabble ....

by laurent laffont

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 11:33 PM, Stan Shepherd <stan.shepherd414(a)gmail.com>wrote: > > That's really neat Geert. Nice to view Smalltalk as one community: > http://n4.nabble.com/Smalltalk-f1294792.topics.html > ...Stan > > Really cool ! Is it possible to add this link on the pharo website ? Larent

Jan. 27, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Linux VM (was TestIndenting fails with Exupery (was: [BetaTesting] [ANN] Pharo1.0-10507-rc2dev10.01.2))

by laurent laffont

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 11:07 PM, Bryce Kampjes <bryce(a)kampjes.demon.co.uk>wrote: > On Mon, 2010-01-25 at 08:12 +0100, laurent laffont wrote: > > Hi, > > > > > > Now I know how to build my own squeak vm with FT2Plugin (yeepeee !!). > > So: > > > > > > Linux + FT2Plugin + Squeak vm = success > > Linux + FT2Plugin + Exupery vm = fails > > > > > > I put the built vm here: > > http://lolgzs.free.fr/pharo/Squeak-3.11.3.2135-src-with-FT2Plugin.tar.gz > > If it's font related then the Exupery VMs also have a patched bitlbt for > subpixel antialiasing. The true type code uses that to make fonts look a > bit nicer. > > Besides that the Exupery VMs should be very close to Squeak VMs > (ignoring version differences) except for a few changes to allow them to > run native code instead of interpreting. > Thank you Bryce for infos. How can I build an Exupery VM ? I think we should clean the linux download section of pharo website to have: - generated src (32 and 64 bits) so people can build an "official" vm with configure / make / make install. Very helpful for packagers too. - a clean pre-built version for the one-click image. Which VM should we propose ? Squeak or Exupery ? (And note we can have more choice on the wiki for "power users". I think we should put only one VM download on pharo website). Cheers, Laurent > > Bryce > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Jan. 27, 2010

[Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfAida is available

by Dale Henrichs

Gofer new squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; package: 'ConfigurationOfAida'; load. ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfAida) project version: '6.0') load.

Jan. 27, 2010

[Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfSeaside available

by Dale Henrichs

First load the configuration: Gofer new squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; package: 'ConfigurationOfSeaside'; load. Then pick the Seaside variant you want to load: "Seaside 2.8" ConfigurationOfSeaside project latestVersion load: 'Seaside 2.8'. ConfigurationOfSeaside project latestVersion load: 'Seaside 2.8 Examples'. ConfigurationOfSeaside project latestVersion load: 'Magritte'. ConfigurationOfSeaside project latestVersion load: 'Magritte Tests'. ConfigurationOfSeaside project latestVersion load: 'Pier'. ConfigurationOfSeaside project latestVersion load: 'Pier Tests'. ConfigurationOfSeaside project latestVersion load: 'Pier AddOns'. "Seaside 3.0" ConfigurationOfSeaside project latestVersion load: 'Seaside 3.0'. ConfigurationOfSeaside project latestVersion load: 'Seaside 3.0 Tests'. ConfigurationOfSeaside project latestVersion load: 'Magritte2'. ConfigurationOfSeaside project latestVersion load: 'Magritte2 Tests'. ConfigurationOfSeaside project latestVersion load: 'Pier2'. ConfigurationOfSeaside project latestVersion load: 'Pier2 Tests'. ConfigurationOfSeaside project latestVersion load: 'Pier2 AddOns'. I've tested the various loads with PharoCore-1.0-10508rc2. Should work fine in Dev variants as well... Dale

Jan. 27, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Gardening/ScriptManager

by John M McIntosh

Stef at this point I'm going to poke it with a stick and see if it lives. Then we can dream, or at least I'll see about your dreaming. On 2010-01-26, at 12:28 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Two questions: > > but what will be the point to have Ginsu? > We have the smalltalk metamodel + MC + PseudoClass and do we want one more? > I know well Ginsu I have it on my harddisc and read it when MC was not even created and I wrote FAMIX which is a Ginsu for JavaC++Smalltalk. > > > For me I dream about the following: > > - having ONE code metamodel (ginsu or MC) that can be used to do version management = MC versioning > but has the same static interface than the Smalltalk runtime so that he can be browsed using the SAME code browser. -- =========================================================================== John M. McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> Twitter: squeaker68882 Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com ===========================================================================

Jan. 27, 2010