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[Pharo-project] [ANN] VMMaker metacello config for Squeak and Pharo (update 1.1.)

by Torsten Bergmann

Hi, the Balloon 3D stuff was already clean up - no preference change necessary in Pharo! I created a version 1.1 in the configuration with the latest package versions. So you just have to use 1.1 instead of 1.0: In Squeak 3.11 #9236 ==================== Installer ss project: 'MetacelloRepository'; install: 'ConfigurationOfVMMaker'. ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfVMMaker) project version: '1.1') load In Pharo (core or dev) evaluate: ================================ Gofer new squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; package: 'ConfigurationOfVMMaker'; load. ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfVMMaker) project version: '1.1') load Now you should be able to open VMMaker from the world menu. Short Metacello tips: ==================== If you want to see your (platform) spec for 1.1 just print: ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfVMMaker) project version: '1.1') spec If you want to see the packages loaded in 1.1. print: ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfVMMaker) project version: '1.1') packages Have fun! Bye T. -- NEU: Mit GMX DSL Ã¼ber 1000,- Â¿ sparen! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02

Feb. 5, 2010

[Pharo-project] Where to get SIXX?

by John Thornborrow

Hi, I've looked/Googled for SIXX (and YAXO) packages, but can't find anywhere. I've found XML-Support, but not sure if this is the same as YAXO? The Sixx mcz in Pharo squeaksource is empty (should it be?) as I assume it is only extensions. I am using Pharo 1.0 RC2. Many thanks, John. Consider your responsibility to the environment - think before you print! ****************************************************************************************************************************************** This email is from Pinesoft Limited. Its contents are confidential to the intended recipient(s) at the email address(es) to which it has been addressed. It may not be disclosed to or used by anyone other than the addressee(s), nor may it be copied in anyway. If received in error, please contact the sender, then delete it from your system. Although this email and attachments are believed to be free of virus, or any other defect which might affect any computer or IT system into which they are received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that they are virus free and no responsibility is accepted by Pinesoft for any loss or damage arising in any way from receipt or use thereof. ******************************************************************************************************************************************* Pinesoft Limited are registered in England, Registered number: 2914825. Registered office: 266-268 High Street, Waltham Cross, Herts, EN8 7EA

Feb. 5, 2010

[Pharo-project] [ANN] VMMaker metacello config for Squeak and Pharo

by Torsten Bergmann

Hi, (crosspost vm-dev, squeak-dev, pharo-dev) with more and more Metacello configurations for various well known Squeak and Pharo packages appearing in the metacello repository [1] I thought it would be a good idea to have one for VMMaker. It is based on a description by David (see [2]) and maybe he is able to help me keeping it maintained. Since Metacello is Smalltalk independent and therefore able to handle differences between the deployment systems the new 'ConfigurationOfVMMaker' includes two platform spec's - one for #pharo and one #squeak. (Pharo has FreeType preinstalled, and Squeak not). Unfortunately the Balloon3D stuff needs a little bit more cleaning (underscores, assigns to block args). Maybe Andreas is able to fix this. Until then one has to switch a preference in Pharo. However: it should be easy now to load and use VMMaker in both: In Squeak 3.11 #9236 ==================== Installer ss project: 'MetacelloRepository'; install: 'ConfigurationOfVMMaker'. ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfVMMaker) project version: '1.0') load In Pharo (core or dev) evaluate: ================================ Preferences setPreference: #allowBlockArgumentAssignment toValue: true. Gofer new squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; package: 'ConfigurationOfVMMaker'; load. ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfVMMaker) project version: '1.0') load Feel free to have a look or use it to build shiny new VM's for the next interesting devices. For more infos on Metacello see [3] and [4]. Bye T. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [1] http://squeaksource.com/MetacelloRepository.html [2] http://n4.nabble.com/Package-name-SharedPool-Speech-SharedPool-FFI-etc-td12… [3] http://code.google.com/p/metacello/ [4] http://gemstonesoup.wordpress.com/2010/01/25/metacello-1-0-beta22-launches/ -- Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla Firefox 3.5 - sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atbrowser

Feb. 5, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Morphic cleaning

by Lukas Renggli

If I were you I would use the refactoring browser (load the latest code, I just found and fixed a bug related to sent-messages calculation) for that: For Morphic this takes about 1 second on my system and finds over 600 unsent messages: rule := RBImplementedNotSentRule new. rule runOnEnvironment: (BrowserEnvironment new forPackageNames: #('Morphic')) And for the complete system about 750 ms and finds over 4500 unsent messages (not counting tests, because they are all unsent). Obviously iterating through a package is the most expensive thing in this whole process: rule := RBImplementedNotSentRule new. rule runOnEnvironment: BrowserEnvironment new forPackageNames: #('Morphic')) To open a browser on the result evaluate: rule open Note, that opening a browser on that many methods can is slow. Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch

Feb. 5, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Morphic cleaning

by Marcus Denker

On Feb 5, 2010, at 3:51 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > The problem is that this hasn't TOO much sense. I mean, is obvious that there will be a lot of messages not sent. And that's correct. That's the API the core shows to the rest of the world. Why should the core call all those methods too ? > > To make this more accurate, maybe we should test the unsent methods of the classes of the core image but in a Dev image for example. > What we need is to document the API... all methods that are part of the public API and unsent --> OK. All else--> delete. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

Feb. 5, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Morphic cleaning

by Mariano Martinez Peck

The problem is that this hasn't TOO much sense. I mean, is obvious that there will be a lot of messages not sent. And that's correct. That's the API the core shows to the rest of the world. Why should the core call all those methods too ? To make this more accurate, maybe we should test the unsent methods of the classes of the core image but in a Dev image for example. Cheers Mariano 2010/2/5 Henrik Johansen <henrik.s.johansen(a)veloxit.no> > With test* methods removed, here's the list, as well as # per package. > (2482 total) > > Cheers, > Henry > > Den 05.02.2010 15:18, skrev Henrik Johansen: > > You can now do > > > > findTime := [unsent := SystemNavigation default > > unsentMessagesInPackageNamed: '*'] timeToRun > > > > in the time it used to take for Morphic alone. (about 30 mins) > > That's the entire system btw, 7486 unsents in my core image ;) > > > > Cheers, > > Henry > > > > > > Den 05.02.2010 14:11, skrev StÃ©phane Ducasse: > > > >> [update 1.1] #11196 > >> 11196 > >> ----- > >> > >> - faster isUnsentMessage: tx Henrik > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Feb 5, 2010, at 1:54 PM, Henrik Johansen wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>> Den 05.02.2010 11:15, skrev Laval Jannik: > >>> > >>> > >>>> Hi all, > >>>> > >>>> I have used SystemNavigation>>unsentMessagesInPackageNamed: > >>>> on the package Morphic. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> Wow, I feel your pain, the runtime of that method is quite brutal for > >>> large packages... > >>> > >>> Find attached a somewhat faster (but still slow) implementation. > >>> > >>> Test: > >>> findTime := [unsent := SystemNavigation default > >>> unsentMessagesInPackageNamed: 'Morphic'] timeToRun > >>> > >>> Numbers on my machine: > >>> Current: > >>> findTime - 29 minutes, 35 seconds. > >>> unsent size - 531 > >>> > >>> Attached: > >>> findTime - 3 minutes, 9 seconds. > >>> unsent size - 531 > >>> > >>> Cheers, > >>> Henry > >>> <UnsentTesting.1.cs>_______________________________________________ > >>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >>> > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > >> > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Feb. 5, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Morphic cleaning

by Henrik Johansen

With test* methods removed, here's the list, as well as # per package. (2482 total) Cheers, Henry Den 05.02.2010 15:18, skrev Henrik Johansen: > You can now do > > findTime := [unsent := SystemNavigation default > unsentMessagesInPackageNamed: '*'] timeToRun > > in the time it used to take for Morphic alone. (about 30 mins) > That's the entire system btw, 7486 unsents in my core image ;) > > Cheers, > Henry > > > Den 05.02.2010 14:11, skrev StÃ©phane Ducasse: > >> [update 1.1] #11196 >> 11196 >> ----- >> >> - faster isUnsentMessage: tx Henrik >> >> >> >> >> >> On Feb 5, 2010, at 1:54 PM, Henrik Johansen wrote: >> >> >> >>> Den 05.02.2010 11:15, skrev Laval Jannik: >>> >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I have used SystemNavigation>>unsentMessagesInPackageNamed: >>>> on the package Morphic. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Wow, I feel your pain, the runtime of that method is quite brutal for >>> large packages... >>> >>> Find attached a somewhat faster (but still slow) implementation. >>> >>> Test: >>> findTime := [unsent := SystemNavigation default >>> unsentMessagesInPackageNamed: 'Morphic'] timeToRun >>> >>> Numbers on my machine: >>> Current: >>> findTime - 29 minutes, 35 seconds. >>> unsent size - 531 >>> >>> Attached: >>> findTime - 3 minutes, 9 seconds. >>> unsent size - 531 >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Henry >>> <UnsentTesting.1.cs>_______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > >

Feb. 5, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Morphic cleaning

by Henrik Johansen

You can now do findTime := [unsent := SystemNavigation default unsentMessagesInPackageNamed: '*'] timeToRun in the time it used to take for Morphic alone. (about 30 mins) That's the entire system btw, 7486 unsents in my core image ;) Cheers, Henry Den 05.02.2010 14:11, skrev StÃ©phane Ducasse: > [update 1.1] #11196 > 11196 > ----- > > - faster isUnsentMessage: tx Henrik > > > > > > On Feb 5, 2010, at 1:54 PM, Henrik Johansen wrote: > > >> Den 05.02.2010 11:15, skrev Laval Jannik: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I have used SystemNavigation>>unsentMessagesInPackageNamed: >>> on the package Morphic. >>> >>> >> Wow, I feel your pain, the runtime of that method is quite brutal for >> large packages... >> >> Find attached a somewhat faster (but still slow) implementation. >> >> Test: >> findTime := [unsent := SystemNavigation default >> unsentMessagesInPackageNamed: 'Morphic'] timeToRun >> >> Numbers on my machine: >> Current: >> findTime - 29 minutes, 35 seconds. >> unsent size - 531 >> >> Attached: >> findTime - 3 minutes, 9 seconds. >> unsent size - 531 >> >> Cheers, >> Henry >> <UnsentTesting.1.cs>_______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > >

Feb. 5, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Morphic cleaning

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

[update 1.1] #11196 11196 ----- - faster isUnsentMessage: tx Henrik On Feb 5, 2010, at 1:54 PM, Henrik Johansen wrote: > Den 05.02.2010 11:15, skrev Laval Jannik: >> Hi all, >> >> I have used SystemNavigation>>unsentMessagesInPackageNamed: >> on the package Morphic. >> > Wow, I feel your pain, the runtime of that method is quite brutal for > large packages... > > Find attached a somewhat faster (but still slow) implementation. > > Test: > findTime := [unsent := SystemNavigation default > unsentMessagesInPackageNamed: 'Morphic'] timeToRun > > Numbers on my machine: > Current: > findTime - 29 minutes, 35 seconds. > unsent size - 531 > > Attached: > findTime - 3 minutes, 9 seconds. > unsent size - 531 > > Cheers, > Henry > <UnsentTesting.1.cs>_______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Feb. 5, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Filesystem 1.0.1

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

I really think that if people like it we could plan to use filesystem for 1.2. Yeah thinking ahead. Stef On Feb 5, 2010, at 1:43 PM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > Now also via Metacello: > > > Gofer new > squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; > package: 'ConfigurationOfFilesystem'; > load. > > > (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfFilesystem) load > -- > Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla Firefox 3.5 - > sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atbrowser > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Feb. 5, 2010