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[Pharo-project] Latest Polymorph

by Torsten Bergmann

>No. At least on Windoze(tm) this is not possible without substantional >changes in VM. I remember an old Squeak changeset that does exactly that, it was damn slow when I tried it - but nice effect. To have a real usable demo I agree that you wont succeed without VM changes. Bye T. -- Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla Firefox 3.5 - sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/chbrowser

Feb. 7, 2010

[Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfXMLSupport...

by Dale Henrichs

I've just published ConfigurationOfXMLSupport to the MetacelloRepository. It is used by several Pier addons. It _is_ just one package, but since it can be used in a lot of different projects, I thought it was worth adding as a configuration. It is based upon the code in http://www.squeaksource.com/XMLSupport. The test package appears to be several years old and a number of the tests failed, so I didn't include them in this version of the config. So if someone with a little more knowledge about XMLSupport could comment, that would help (hint, hint, Alexandre:). Thanks, Dale

Feb. 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Conseils for develop a grid

by David T. Lewis

On Sun, Feb 07, 2010 at 09:56:54AM -0800, nullPointer wrote: > > Exists the posibility of load data in another thread? When i try that get a > huge rectangle red with a yellow cross. Is possible attach the UI from > another thread? Yes you can use another thread (Process). But when that process does something with the user interface, it must be synchronized using #addDeferredUIMessage: otherwise you will have error like the red X. Your data loading thread can do something like this: WorldState addDeferredUIMessage: ['this is my data' inspect] Dave

Feb. 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Metacello - the missing information??

by Tudor Girba

Hi, I think I missed a mail because I do not understand what is a moving target and I do not know what you mean by "as I said". Cheers, Doru On 7 Feb 2010, at 19:26, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > As I said, a moving target. I know it is not necessarily easy, but > if this is to work we must have either self-describing > configurations or a central repository. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr > ] On Behalf Of Tudor Girba > Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 1:19 PM > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Metacello - the missing information?? > > Hi, > > This happens because you do not have the latest ProfStef. to get it, > you have to load ProfStef-Core. In the process of checking the > latest version I also updated both ProfStef-Core and GTProfStef to > cope with the latest developments. > > Cheers, > Doru > > On 7 Feb 2010, at 14:58, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > >> In an RC2 image, GTProfStef open gives >> >> DNU #goOn:viewedWith: >> >> After all of: >> >> Gofer new >> squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; >> package: 'ConfigurationOfMetacello'; >> load. >> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMetacello) perform: >> #loadLatestVersion. >> >> ConfigurationOfMetacello project latestVersion load: #('Tutorial'). >> >> >> Gofer new >> squeaksource: 'glamoroust'; >> package: 'ConfigurationOfGlamoroust'; >> load. >> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfGlamoroust) perform: #loadDefault. >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> [pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> ] On Behalf Of laurent laffont [laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com] >> Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 4:06 AM >> To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Metacello - the missing information?? >> >> 2010/2/6 Schwab,Wilhelm K >> <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu<mailto:bschwab@anest.ufl.edu >>>> >> The closest thing I see in the tutorial (assuming it is working as >> intended) is a mention of baseline configurations. If that is in >> fact >> how things can work, there should be an abstract super class for all >> configurations (or at least a trait they all use to avoid duplicate >> code) and a method that loads the baseline. >> >> ProfStef would be a lot more useful if it made use of Polymorph: a >> table of contents in a left pane, select an item and the righ pane >> shows the content, actions replaced with buttons rather than >> forcing a >> lot of right-clicking. To the extent that those things are >> difficult, >> we need easy-to-use tree models. From what I have been able to >> figure >> out of the tutorial, a wiki page would be more helpful and more >> likely >> to be read. If you "force" loading of code, then there should be >> some >> benefit in the form of interaction. >> >> Danny Chan has written ProfStefBrowser (in the same repository as >> ProfStef) which has both browsing and interactive (ProfStef next) >> capabilities. >> Tudor Girba has also written a proof-of-concept using Glamour: >> Gofer new >> squeaksource: 'glamoroust'; >> package: 'ConfigurationOfGlamoroust'; >> load. >> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfGlamoroust) perform: #loadDefault. >> >> And then: >> GTProfStef open >> >> (You spawn the new lesson by command+o) >> >> Cheers >> >> Laurent Laffont >> >> >> My question stands. >> >> Bill >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: >> pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:pharo-project- >> bounc >> es(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> >>> [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:pharo- >>> proj >>> ect-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> ] On Behalf Of Mariano Martinez Peck >> Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 4:52 PM >> To: >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo- >> project(a)lists.gforge. >> inria.fr >>> >> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Metacello - the missing information?? >> >> >> >> On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 10:22 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K >> <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu <mailto:bschwab@anest.ufl.edu>> wrote: >> For any given cofiguration, how does one know which version to load? >> There are incantations in the beginner workspace, but what happens >> for >> things not listed there? >> >> >> You must know about Metacello. As you can noticed, that's why I >> added the link to the tutorial. >> >> Bill >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "When people care, great things can happen." > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- www.tudorgirba.com "There are no old things, there are only old ways of looking at them."

Feb. 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] ProfStefBrowser, a GUI for ProfStef

by Tudor Girba

Hi, Indeed, it is pretty nice. I particularly like that executing ProfStef next does spawn the next lesson :). However, I would decouple the two user interfaces because they address two different categories of people: - the browser is for the one that wants to learn. For this user, it is probably confusing to also deal with the administration buttons from the bottom. - the tutorial creation is for the one that wants to teach. This guy does want to see the tutorial, so the navigation bar is useful in this case. Cheers, Doru On 7 Feb 2010, at 19:15, laurent laffont wrote: > Hi Danny, > > It's cool to be able to create a new tutorial here ! Note there's a > bug if you click on "new tutorial" then Cancel. > > Cheers, > > Laurent Laffont > > > 2010/2/7 Danny Chan <chan_dhf(a)yahoo.de> > Hi! > > Some of you know, that I made my first dabblings in the Smalltalk > world in the > last weeks by writing a GUI for ProfStef. The result so far can now > be found > in the ProfStef repository. There is no Metacello configuration, > because I > don't know how to make one. Load ProfStef-Core-DannyChan.8 and > ProfStefBrowser-DannyChan.18 and start with 'ProfStefBrowser go'. > > I've implemented some navigation buttons and some buttons to edit > the tutorial > in the browser. The idea is that people can annotate the tutorials > on the fly > and may even be able to submit their changes as improvement requests > directly > from the browser. It would be nice to have some buttons to remove > tutorials > and lessons as well, but I don't know how to remove classes and > methods > programmatically. And of course the GUI could have a better look. > > Have fun, > Danny > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- www.tudorgirba.com "Be rather willing to give than demanding to get."

Feb. 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Metacello - the missing information??

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

As I said, a moving target. I know it is not necessarily easy, but if this is to work we must have either self-describing configurations or a central repository. -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Tudor Girba Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 1:19 PM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Metacello - the missing information?? Hi, This happens because you do not have the latest ProfStef. to get it, you have to load ProfStef-Core. In the process of checking the latest version I also updated both ProfStef-Core and GTProfStef to cope with the latest developments. Cheers, Doru On 7 Feb 2010, at 14:58, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > In an RC2 image, GTProfStef open gives > > DNU #goOn:viewedWith: > > After all of: > > Gofer new > squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; > package: 'ConfigurationOfMetacello'; > load. > (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMetacello) perform: #loadLatestVersion. > > ConfigurationOfMetacello project latestVersion load: #('Tutorial'). > > > Gofer new > squeaksource: 'glamoroust'; > package: 'ConfigurationOfGlamoroust'; > load. > (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfGlamoroust) perform: #loadDefault. > > ________________________________________ > From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > [pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > ] On Behalf Of laurent laffont [laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 4:06 AM > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Metacello - the missing information?? > > 2010/2/6 Schwab,Wilhelm K > <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu<mailto:bschwab@anest.ufl.edu > >> > The closest thing I see in the tutorial (assuming it is working as > intended) is a mention of baseline configurations. If that is in fact > how things can work, there should be an abstract super class for all > configurations (or at least a trait they all use to avoid duplicate > code) and a method that loads the baseline. > > ProfStef would be a lot more useful if it made use of Polymorph: a > table of contents in a left pane, select an item and the righ pane > shows the content, actions replaced with buttons rather than forcing a > lot of right-clicking. To the extent that those things are difficult, > we need easy-to-use tree models. From what I have been able to figure > out of the tutorial, a wiki page would be more helpful and more likely > to be read. If you "force" loading of code, then there should be some > benefit in the form of interaction. > > Danny Chan has written ProfStefBrowser (in the same repository as > ProfStef) which has both browsing and interactive (ProfStef next) > capabilities. > Tudor Girba has also written a proof-of-concept using Glamour: > Gofer new > squeaksource: 'glamoroust'; > package: 'ConfigurationOfGlamoroust'; > load. > (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfGlamoroust) perform: #loadDefault. > > And then: > GTProfStef open > > (You spawn the new lesson by command+o) > > Cheers > > Laurent Laffont > > > My question stands. > > Bill > > > ________________________________ > From: > pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:pharo-project-bounc > es(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > > >[mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:pharo-proj > >ect-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >] On Behalf Of Mariano Martinez Peck > Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 4:52 PM > To: > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge. > inria.fr > > > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Metacello - the missing information?? > > > > On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 10:22 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K > <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu <mailto:bschwab@anest.ufl.edu>> wrote: > For any given cofiguration, how does one know which version to load? > There are incantations in the beginner workspace, but what happens for > things not listed there? > > > You must know about Metacello. As you can noticed, that's why I > added the link to the tutorial. > > Bill > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr > > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr > > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- www.tudorgirba.com "When people care, great things can happen." _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Feb. 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] ProfStefBrowser, a GUI for ProfStef

by Danny Chan

Am Sonntag, 7. Februar 2010 19:15:42 schrieb laurent laffont: > Hi Danny, > > It's cool to be able to create a new tutorial here ! Note there's a bug if > you click on "new tutorial" then Cancel. Right, obvious mistake by a stupid programmer. Fixed. Danny

Feb. 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Metacello - the missing information??

by Tudor Girba

Hi, This happens because you do not have the latest ProfStef. to get it, you have to load ProfStef-Core. In the process of checking the latest version I also updated both ProfStef-Core and GTProfStef to cope with the latest developments. Cheers, Doru On 7 Feb 2010, at 14:58, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > In an RC2 image, GTProfStef open gives > > DNU #goOn:viewedWith: > > After all of: > > Gofer new > squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; > package: 'ConfigurationOfMetacello'; > load. > (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMetacello) perform: #loadLatestVersion. > > ConfigurationOfMetacello project latestVersion load: #('Tutorial'). > > > Gofer new > squeaksource: 'glamoroust'; > package: 'ConfigurationOfGlamoroust'; > load. > (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfGlamoroust) perform: #loadDefault. > > ________________________________________ > From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > ] On Behalf Of laurent laffont [laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 4:06 AM > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Metacello - the missing information?? > > 2010/2/6 Schwab,Wilhelm K <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu<mailto:bschwab@anest.ufl.edu > >> > The closest thing I see in the tutorial (assuming it is working as > intended) is a mention of baseline configurations. If that is in > fact how things can work, there should be an abstract super class > for all configurations (or at least a trait they all use to avoid > duplicate code) and a method that loads the baseline. > > ProfStef would be a lot more useful if it made use of Polymorph: a > table of contents in a left pane, select an item and the righ pane > shows the content, actions replaced with buttons rather than forcing > a lot of right-clicking. To the extent that those things are > difficult, we need easy-to-use tree models. From what I have been > able to figure out of the tutorial, a wiki page would be more > helpful and more likely to be read. If you "force" loading of code, > then there should be some benefit in the form of interaction. > > Danny Chan has written ProfStefBrowser (in the same repository as > ProfStef) which has both browsing and interactive (ProfStef next) > capabilities. > Tudor Girba has also written a proof-of-concept using Glamour: > Gofer new > squeaksource: 'glamoroust'; > package: 'ConfigurationOfGlamoroust'; > load. > (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfGlamoroust) perform: #loadDefault. > > And then: > GTProfStef open > > (You spawn the new lesson by command+o) > > Cheers > > Laurent Laffont > > > My question stands. > > Bill > > > ________________________________ > From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr > > [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr > >] On Behalf Of Mariano Martinez Peck > Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 4:52 PM > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr > > > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Metacello - the missing information?? > > > > On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 10:22 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu > <mailto:bschwab@anest.ufl.edu>> wrote: > For any given cofiguration, how does one know which version to > load? There are incantations in the beginner workspace, but what > happens for things not listed there? > > > You must know about Metacello. As you can noticed, that's why I > added the link to the tutorial. > > Bill > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr > > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr > > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- www.tudorgirba.com "When people care, great things can happen."

Feb. 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] ProfStefBrowser, a GUI for ProfStef

by laurent laffont

Hi Danny, It's cool to be able to create a new tutorial here ! Note there's a bug if you click on "new tutorial" then Cancel. Cheers, Laurent Laffont 2010/2/7 Danny Chan <chan_dhf(a)yahoo.de> > Hi! > > Some of you know, that I made my first dabblings in the Smalltalk world in > the > last weeks by writing a GUI for ProfStef. The result so far can now be > found > in the ProfStef repository. There is no Metacello configuration, because I > don't know how to make one. Load ProfStef-Core-DannyChan.8 and > ProfStefBrowser-DannyChan.18 and start with 'ProfStefBrowser go'. > > I've implemented some navigation buttons and some buttons to edit the > tutorial > in the browser. The idea is that people can annotate the tutorials on the > fly > and may even be able to submit their changes as improvement requests > directly > from the browser. It would be nice to have some buttons to remove tutorials > and lessons as well, but I don't know how to remove classes and methods > programmatically. And of course the GUI could have a better look. > > Have fun, > Danny > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Feb. 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Conseils for develop a grid

by nullPointer

Exists the posibility of load data in another thread? When i try that get a huge rectangle red with a yellow cross. Is possible attach the UI from another thread? Regards -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/Conseils-for-develop-a-grid-tp1299737p1472150.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Feb. 7, 2010