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Re: [Pharo-project] [Esug-list] Smalltalk app demo for GSoC

by Lukas Renggli

> I am happy to volunteer, to to co-mentor with Tallman. I would however > recommend eg Lukas instead of me, for ready access to a lot of the > tacit knowledge about the stack. I am a bit busy writing my PhD. We can discuss in the list through. Lukas > > ...Stan > > On 12 March 2010 08:36, Mariano Martinez Peck [via Smalltalk] > <[hidden email]> wrote: >> Stan I am lost...do you volunteer to be the mentor of this project ? >> >> Tallman can be co-mentor if you want. >> >> PLease, let me know as soon as possible >> >> cheers >> >> mariano >> >> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 11:49 PM, Stan Shepherd <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>> Mariano, the proposals are related in wanting to show the stack fully >>> integrated. The healthcare application wouldn't have the second benefit >>> that >>> it could be set up ready to roll for a web business. I think that would >>> be >>> a >>> key deliverable of the process I had in mind. It sounds like SmallPOS >>> would >>> be a closer fit from that point of view. So I'd prefer to keep them >>> separate; an attempt to do both projects as one would probably be too >>> large >>> to get either part done. >>> >>> Cheers, Â ...Stan >>> >>> -- >>> View this message in context: >>> >>> http://n4.nabble.com/Google-Summer-Of-Code-2010-news-tp1582769p1589873.html >>> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> ________________________________ >> View message @ >> >> http://n4.nabble.com/Google-Summer-Of-Code-2010-news-tp1582769p1590257.html >> To unsubscribe from Re: [Esug-list] Smalltalk app demo for GSoC, click >> here. >> > > ________________________________ > View this message in context: Re: [Esug-list] Smalltalk app demo for GSoC > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch

March 12, 2010

[Pharo-project] image overload

by Eliot Miranda

Hi All, I'm sure Im opening an old topic but anyway, as I was riding the train to work today I saw a shop called "Audio Images" and it struck me how overloaded the term image is, and how poor a term for the contents of the image file Smalltalk image is. What's in the image is a snapshot of... almost the entire system (minus platform-specific virtual machine and possibly minus sources). So Smalltalk system file would be a far better term and stsys a more unique file extension (and according to Wikipedia STS is unused too). I can imagine that changing form image would be hugely expensive in documentation terms (docs, websites, workspaces, etc, etc). But I can at least dream of a better term. P.S. I know, wasting one's time worrying about names. Almost as bad as worrying about colours "And the wheel," said the Captain, "What about this wheel thingy? It sounds a terribly interesting project." "Ah," said the marketing girl, "Well, we're having a little difficulty there." "Difficulty?" exclaimed Ford. "Difficulty? What do you mean, difficulty? It's the single simplest machine in the entire Universe!" The marketing girl soured him with a look. "Alright, Mr. Wiseguy," she said, "if you're so clever, you tell us what colour it should be."

March 12, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] URGENT!! Please help for GSoC

by askoh

In 2008, Squeak Project was allocated 5 students. We had 5 students and all passed. 100%. Aik-Siong Koh -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/URGENT-Please-help-for-GSoC-tp1590585p1590738.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

March 12, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [Esug-list] Smalltalk app demo for GSoC

by Stan Shepherd

I am happy to volunteer, to to co-mentor with Tallman. I would however recommend eg Lukas instead of me, for ready access to a lot of the tacit knowledge about the stack. ...Stan On 12 March 2010 08:36, Mariano Martinez Peck [via Smalltalk] <ml-node+1590257-1441068202-4901(a)n4.nabble.com> wrote: > Stan I am lost...do you volunteer to be the mentor of this project ? > > Tallman can be co-mentor if you want. > > PLease, let me know as soon as possible > > cheers > > mariano > > On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 11:49 PM, Stan Shepherd <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> Mariano, the proposals are related in wanting to show the stack fully >> integrated. The healthcare application wouldn't have the second benefit >> that >> it could be set up ready to roll for a web business. I think that would be >> a >> key deliverable of the process I had in mind. It sounds like SmallPOS >> would >> be a closer fit from that point of view. So I'd prefer to keep them >> separate; an attempt to do both projects as one would probably be too >> large >> to get either part done. >> >> Cheers, Â ...Stan >> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://n4.nabble.com/Google-Summer-Of-Code-2010-news-tp1582769p1589873.html >> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > ________________________________ > View message @ > http://n4.nabble.com/Google-Summer-Of-Code-2010-news-tp1582769p1590257.html > To unsubscribe from Re: [Esug-list] Smalltalk app demo for GSoC, click here. > -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/Google-Summer-Of-Code-2010-news-tp1582769p1590728.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

March 12, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] URGENT!! Please help for GSoC

by Geert Claes

ESUG has not participated in the past, so I guess that the ratio would need to come from someone who was participating through the Squeak project in past GSoCs. -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/URGENT-Please-help-for-GSoC-tp1590585p1590677.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

March 12, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Collection

by Philippe Marschall

Lukas Renggli wrote: >> What would be cool for Seaside IMHO: >> - Multi Value Dictionaries, e.g. for request parameters >> - Some kind of thread safe map with atomic operations [2], e.g. for >> session store > > Why would that be cool? We already have a WAMultiValueDictionary for > request parameters. We could (theoretically, if other dialects follow) delete our code. Everybody who needs something similar doesn't need to write his own. > Also we have some ad-hock solutions for the thread > safe dictionaries. Yeah, the same comment as above applies. Cheers Philippe

March 12, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] URGENT!! Please help for GSoC

by Mariano Martinez Peck

ok...Thanks...but I still don't know the answer. Does someone know ? 2010/3/12 Henrik Johansen <henrik.s.johansen(a)veloxit.no> > I would recon they mean the percentage of students who actually finished > the projects they were allocated to in previous years, not the percentage of > projects proposals which were accepted. > > Cheers, > Henry > > Den 12.03.2010 15:34, skrev Mariano Martinez Peck: > > There was a new question in the submission to GSoC which says: > > "If your organization participated in past GSoCs, please let us know the > ratio of students passing to students allocated, e.g. 2006: 3/6 for 3 out of > 6 students passed in 2006." > > Does someone understand this ? is this acceptance projects (google slots) > over the total proposed projects ? > > If true, I know in 2008 were selected 5 projects over 18, but I have no > idea about 2007. > > Please, we are almost in deadline :( > > Thanks > > Mariano > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing listPharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.frhttp://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

March 12, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] URGENT!! Please help for GSoC

by Henrik Johansen

I would recon they mean the percentage of students who actually finished the projects they were allocated to in previous years, not the percentage of projects proposals which were accepted. Cheers, Henry Den 12.03.2010 15:34, skrev Mariano Martinez Peck: > There was a new question in the submission to GSoC which says: > > "If your organization participated in past GSoCs, please let us know > the ratio of students passing to students allocated, e.g. 2006: 3/6 > for 3 out of 6 students passed in 2006." > > Does someone understand this ? is this acceptance projects (google > slots) over the total proposed projects ? > > If true, I know in 2008 were selected 5 projects over 18, but I have > no idea about 2007. > > Please, we are almost in deadline :( > > Thanks > > Mariano > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

March 12, 2010

[Pharo-project] URGENT!! Please help for GSoC

by Mariano Martinez Peck

There was a new question in the submission to GSoC which says: "If your organization participated in past GSoCs, please let us know the ratio of students passing to students allocated, e.g. 2006: 3/6 for 3 out of 6 students passed in 2006." Does someone understand this ? is this acceptance projects (google slots) over the total proposed projects ? If true, I know in 2008 were selected 5 projects over 18, but I have no idea about 2007. Please, we are almost in deadline :( Thanks Mariano

March 12, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Collection

by Lukas Renggli

> What would be cool for Seaside IMHO: > - Multi Value Dictionaries, e.g. for request parameters > - Some kind of thread safe map with atomic operations [2], e.g. for > session store Why would that be cool? We already have a WAMultiValueDictionary for request parameters. Also we have some ad-hock solutions for the thread safe dictionaries. I would be more interested to see ... - if it would be beneficial for a collection to be able to swap out its internal representation automatically depending on its load and use ... - what we can do by externalizing the enumeration protocol (no, this is not the same as streams or the iterable refactoring that was recently proposed) ... - how to make collections more composable, e.g. make them thread safe, make them read-only, make them ordered (sets and dictionaries), ... Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch

March 12, 2010