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[Pharo-project] Virtual Desktops in Polymorph

by Torsten Bergmann

>Run second image? (joking) :) >Run RFBServer on a shared image and everybody connects with a VNC client ?? That's like: You can print out a copy of you screen and have the printed paper beside your laptop ;) Hey - maybe I was not clear enough: When I currently work with Pharo I switch to full screen it is like an OS to me with it's own window manager (here Morphic/Polymorph). Unfortunately there is only one World/Desktop/Screen with windows - but I want more than one and an easy way to switch between them. So instead of Pharo image -> World with many windows Pharo image -> #(World with many windows, World with many windows, ...) >i'm building a new IDE for Pharo >It is still in development, but i included the idea of workspaces The idea is not new - Eclipse has a workspace concept - but this is running within one window (which is clonable in Eclipse by the way). VisualWorks Refactoring Browser has something similar - with switchable views within one browser. And yes, Bubbles is not bound to a single window. But I'm talking about "switchable screens" (switchable arrangements of windows and morphs) and not bound to the IDE. Better said I would like to see something similar to Linux virtual desktops or win32 utilities like http://techblissonline.com/virtual-desktop-for-windows-dexpot/ Bye T. -- GRATIS fÃ¼r alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01

March 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Code Freeze 1.1?

by Lukas Renggli

https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/26668/PharoCore-1.0-10515rc3.zip On 16 March 2010 11:53, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I do not see it from the website. Where can I get it from? > > Cheers, > Doru > > > On 16 Mar 2010, at 10:42, Marcus Denker wrote: > >> >> On Mar 16, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Tudor Girba wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Is 1.0 already released? >>> >> Not yet, but we hope that RC3 is the last... >> >> Â Â Â Â Marcus >> >> >> >>> Cheers, >>> Doru >>> >>> >>> On 16 Mar 2010, at 10:19, Marcus Denker wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Now with 1.0 done, I think we should think about freezing 1.1. >>>> >>>> The main reason of course is that 1.1 is *far more pleasent* to use than >>>> 1.0. The other >>>> thing is that 1.1 did change quite some things that have impact on >>>> external code (Preferences, >>>> as an example). >>>> >>>> So I think we should >>>> >>>> Â Â Â Â -> start slowing down on 1.1 (Stef suggested that already) >>>> Â Â Â Â -> start polishing Â (tests...) >>>> Â Â Â Â -> start to look at the Dev image. >>>> Â Â Â Â -> Official code freeze end of March. >>>> Â Â Â Â -> Release if possible end of April (this of course depends on >>>> the state of things). >>>> >>>> >>>> Any reasons against? >>>> >>>> >>>> Â Â Â Â Marcus >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Marcus Denker Â -- http://www.marcusdenker.de >>>> INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> -- >>> www.tudorgirba.com >>> >>> "Some battles are better lost than fought." >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> www.tudorgirba.com >>> >>> "From an abstract enough point of view, any two things are similar." >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> -- >> Marcus Denker Â -- http://www.marcusdenker.de >> INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "The coherence of a trip is given by the clearness of the goal." > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch

March 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Code Freeze 1.1?

by Tudor Girba

I do not see it from the website. Where can I get it from? Cheers, Doru On 16 Mar 2010, at 10:42, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On Mar 16, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Tudor Girba wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Is 1.0 already released? >> > Not yet, but we hope that RC3 is the last... > > Marcus > > > >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> On 16 Mar 2010, at 10:19, Marcus Denker wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Now with 1.0 done, I think we should think about freezing 1.1. >>> >>> The main reason of course is that 1.1 is *far more pleasent* to >>> use than 1.0. The other >>> thing is that 1.1 did change quite some things that have impact on >>> external code (Preferences, >>> as an example). >>> >>> So I think we should >>> >>> -> start slowing down on 1.1 (Stef suggested that already) >>> -> start polishing (tests...) >>> -> start to look at the Dev image. >>> -> Official code freeze end of March. >>> -> Release if possible end of April (this of course depends on >>> the state of things). >>> >>> >>> Any reasons against? >>> >>> >>> Marcus >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de >>> INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "Some battles are better lost than fought." >> >> >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "From an abstract enough point of view, any two things are similar." >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de > INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- www.tudorgirba.com "The coherence of a trip is given by the clearness of the goal."

March 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Virtual Desktops in Polymorph

by Fernando olivero

Hi Torsten, as part of my phd i'm building a new IDE for Pharo, somehow related to CodeBubbles and SELF. It is still in development, but i included the idea of workspaces, which you called desktops, and in this initial experience, they are useful for organizing and persisting developers tasks. As soon as i have results and a working prototype i'll release it for the community, and hope to get feedback! Fernando. On Mar 16, 2010, at 9:01 AM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > Hi, > > one thing I really miss in the Pharo UI comparing to > Squeak is an equivalent to "Projects". Hey - not that I want > the "Projects" and related code back but I would like to > see something along the lines of "virtual desktops" > allowing you to switch between different desktops/Worlds in > Polymorph using a simple keystroke. > > Dont know if others miss that too or hard that would be. > Any comments? > > Thx > Torsten > > > > > > > > > > -- > GMX DSL: Internet, Telefon und Entertainment fÃ¼r nur 19,99 EUR/mtl.! > http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02 > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

March 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Code Freeze 1.1?

by Marcus Denker

On Mar 16, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi, > > Is 1.0 already released? > Not yet, but we hope that RC3 is the last... Marcus > Cheers, > Doru > > > On 16 Mar 2010, at 10:19, Marcus Denker wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Now with 1.0 done, I think we should think about freezing 1.1. >> >> The main reason of course is that 1.1 is *far more pleasent* to use than 1.0. The other >> thing is that 1.1 did change quite some things that have impact on external code (Preferences, >> as an example). >> >> So I think we should >> >> -> start slowing down on 1.1 (Stef suggested that already) >> -> start polishing (tests...) >> -> start to look at the Dev image. >> -> Official code freeze end of March. >> -> Release if possible end of April (this of course depends on the state of things). >> >> >> Any reasons against? >> >> >> Marcus >> >> >> -- >> Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de >> INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Some battles are better lost than fought." > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "From an abstract enough point of view, any two things are similar." > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

March 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Code Freeze 1.1?

by Tudor Girba

Hi, Is 1.0 already released? Cheers, Doru On 16 Mar 2010, at 10:19, Marcus Denker wrote: > Hi, > > Now with 1.0 done, I think we should think about freezing 1.1. > > The main reason of course is that 1.1 is *far more pleasent* to use > than 1.0. The other > thing is that 1.1 did change quite some things that have impact on > external code (Preferences, > as an example). > > So I think we should > > -> start slowing down on 1.1 (Stef suggested that already) > -> start polishing (tests...) > -> start to look at the Dev image. > -> Official code freeze end of March. > -> Release if possible end of April (this of course depends on the > state of things). > > > Any reasons against? > > > Marcus > > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de > INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- www.tudorgirba.com "Some battles are better lost than fought." -- www.tudorgirba.com "From an abstract enough point of view, any two things are similar."

March 16, 2010

[Pharo-project] Code Freeze 1.1?

by Marcus Denker

Hi, Now with 1.0 done, I think we should think about freezing 1.1. The main reason of course is that 1.1 is *far more pleasent* to use than 1.0. The other thing is that 1.1 did change quite some things that have impact on external code (Preferences, as an example). So I think we should -> start slowing down on 1.1 (Stef suggested that already) -> start polishing (tests...) -> start to look at the Dev image. -> Official code freeze end of March. -> Release if possible end of April (this of course depends on the state of things). Any reasons against? Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

March 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] About long tests.

by Lukas Renggli

Name: Gofer-Tests-lr.117 Author: lr Time: 16 March 2010, 10:12:10 am UUID: 884f7d2b-6035-4f66-9ec3-28371a77beac Ancestors: Gofer-Tests-lr.116 - made tests run faster in the Pharo inbox is about 30% faster. Lukas On 16 March 2010 09:13, Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Btw, I am running the Pharo tests in my builds now too: > > Â Â http://hudson.lukas-renggli.ch/job/Pharo/lastCompletedBuild/testReport/(roo… > > Click on duration twice to see the tests sorted by run-time. I feel a > bit bad that the slowest test case is one that I wrote. I'll see if I > can speed that up some more. > > Lukas > > On 15 March 2010 20:56, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr> wrote: >> Hi jorge >> >> did you publish the cleans for the tests you did during the sprint? >> >> Thanks Stef >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > Lukas Renggli > http://www.lukas-renggli.ch > -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch

March 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Virtual Desktops in Polymorph

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Run RFBServer on a shared image and everybody connects with a VNC client ?? On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 16 March 2010 10:01, Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > one thing I really miss in the Pharo UI comparing to > > Squeak is an equivalent to "Projects". Hey - not that I want > > the "Projects" and related code back but I would like to > > see something along the lines of "virtual desktops" > > allowing you to switch between different desktops/Worlds in > > Polymorph using a simple keystroke. > > > > Dont know if others miss that too or hard that would be. > > Any comments? > > > Run second image? (joking) :) > > > Thx > > Torsten > > > > > > -- > > GMX DSL: Internet, Telefon und Entertainment fÃ¼r nur 19,99 EUR/mtl.! > > http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

March 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] About long tests.

by Jorge Ressia

Hi, No, I have to finish that. Is still in my todo list. I'll try to make some time today to look into that. Cheers, Jorge On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Adrian Lienhard <adi(a)netstyle.ch> wrote: > Yes, it would be very good to have faster tests. In my experience, if tests take too long to run, you don't use them. > > During the sprint in Lille, Jorge started to sort out long running tests from the rest and make them subclass from SlowTestCase (or something similar). > > Cheers, > Adrian > > > On Mar 16, 2010, at 09:13 , Lukas Renggli wrote: > >> Btw, I am running the Pharo tests in my builds now too: >> >> Â Â http://hudson.lukas-renggli.ch/job/Pharo/lastCompletedBuild/testReport/(roo… >> >> Click on duration twice to see the tests sorted by run-time. I feel a >> bit bad that the slowest test case is one that I wrote. I'll see if I >> can speed that up some more. >> >> Lukas >> >> On 15 March 2010 20:56, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr> wrote: >>> Hi jorge >>> >>> did you publish the cleans for the tests you did during the sprint? >>> >>> Thanks Stef >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Lukas Renggli >> http://www.lukas-renggli.ch >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

March 16, 2010