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Re: [Pharo-project] [BetaTesting] [ANN] Pharo-1.0-10517-rc4dev10.04.1

by Stan Shepherd

See also bug http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2274 -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/BetaTesting-ANN-Pharo-1-0-10517-rc4dev10-04-1-tp174923… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

April 4, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] CollabActive book :)

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi doru I looked for the rss feed but I could not find. May be I missed the obvious? Stef

April 4, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Linux VM microbenchmarks

by laurent laffont

Thanks a lot Hilaire. And if you still have some courage :) here's one with awk gnuification. (You need to have gawk package installed: apt-get install gawk) http://lolgzs.free.fr/pharo/squeak-vm/squeakvm-pharo-2151-src.tar.gz Laurent Laffont On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 7:57 PM, Hilaire Fernandes < hilaire.fernandes(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Here are my numbers > > Hilaire > > -O1 > 82527401 bytecodes/sec; 4334942 sends/sec > 82580645 bytecodes/sec; 4326332 sends/sec > 82633957 bytecodes/sec; 4334942 sends/sec > 82156611 bytecodes/sec; 4330633 sends/sec > 81841432 bytecodes/sec; 4352264 sends/sec > > -O2 > > 87372013 bytecodes/sec; 4436220 sends/sec > 86544962 bytecodes/sec; 4501376 sends/sec > 86253369 bytecodes/sec; 4507132 sends/sec > 86253369 bytecodes/sec; 4487049 sends/sec > 87372013 bytecodes/sec; 4498503 sends/sec > > -O3 > 80655324 bytecodes/sec; 4300707 sends/sec > 80250783 bytecodes/sec; 4304957 sends/sec > 80050031 bytecodes/sec; 4279584 sends/sec > 80351537 bytecodes/sec; 4292233 sends/sec > 80452545 bytecodes/sec; 4304957 sends/sec > > -O2; gnuified > 118738404 bytecodes/sec; 5217731 sends/sec > 118959107 bytecodes/sec; 5210018 sends/sec > 118959107 bytecodes/sec; 5202328 sends/sec > 118299445 bytecodes/sec; 5213872 sends/sec > 118848653 bytecodes/sec; 5198491 sends/sec > > Exupery > 201099764 bytecodes/sec; 5840227 sends/sec > 201099764 bytecodes/sec; 5903814 sends/sec > 200469851 bytecodes/sec; 5908763 sends/sec > 200784313 bytecodes/sec; 5879195 sends/sec > 201416207 bytecodes/sec; 5898874 sends/sec > > > laurent laffont a Ã©crit : > >> Thanks Hilaire. >> >> Could you try with this source ? It has gnuification (using Gnuified.st). >> On my machine it's a little slower but may be it makes a big difference on >> yours. >> On my machine, I have almost the same result with Exupery and Squeak VM :( >> >> wget >> http://lolgzs.free.fr/pharo/squeak-vm/Squeak-3.11.3.2135-pharo-gnuified-src… >> >> >> Laurent Laffont >> >> >> On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Hilaire Fernandes < >> hilaire.fernandes(a)gmail.com <mailto:hilaire.fernandes@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Laurent, >> >> I runned the same benchmark with Exupery, here is >> >> Exupery >> 202371541 bytecodes/sec; 5948654 sends/sec >> 201574803 bytecodes/sec; 5948654 sends/sec >> 201416207 bytecodes/sec; 5933632 sends/sec >> 202531645 bytecodes/sec; 5903814 sends/sec >> 201892744 bytecodes/sec; 5938631 sends/sec >> >> >> -O2 (compiled source code from the archive you provided) >> 87372013 bytecodes/sec; 4436220 sends/sec >> 86544962 bytecodes/sec; 4501376 sends/sec >> 86253369 bytecodes/sec; 4507132 sends/sec >> 86253369 bytecodes/sec; 4487049 sends/sec >> 87372013 bytecodes/sec; 4498503 sends/sec >> >> You better check with Bryce. >> >> >> Hilaire >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> <mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> >> >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

April 4, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Linux VM microbenchmarks

by Hilaire Fernandes

Here are my numbers Hilaire -O1 82527401 bytecodes/sec; 4334942 sends/sec 82580645 bytecodes/sec; 4326332 sends/sec 82633957 bytecodes/sec; 4334942 sends/sec 82156611 bytecodes/sec; 4330633 sends/sec 81841432 bytecodes/sec; 4352264 sends/sec -O2 87372013 bytecodes/sec; 4436220 sends/sec 86544962 bytecodes/sec; 4501376 sends/sec 86253369 bytecodes/sec; 4507132 sends/sec 86253369 bytecodes/sec; 4487049 sends/sec 87372013 bytecodes/sec; 4498503 sends/sec -O3 80655324 bytecodes/sec; 4300707 sends/sec 80250783 bytecodes/sec; 4304957 sends/sec 80050031 bytecodes/sec; 4279584 sends/sec 80351537 bytecodes/sec; 4292233 sends/sec 80452545 bytecodes/sec; 4304957 sends/sec -O2; gnuified 118738404 bytecodes/sec; 5217731 sends/sec 118959107 bytecodes/sec; 5210018 sends/sec 118959107 bytecodes/sec; 5202328 sends/sec 118299445 bytecodes/sec; 5213872 sends/sec 118848653 bytecodes/sec; 5198491 sends/sec Exupery 201099764 bytecodes/sec; 5840227 sends/sec 201099764 bytecodes/sec; 5903814 sends/sec 200469851 bytecodes/sec; 5908763 sends/sec 200784313 bytecodes/sec; 5879195 sends/sec 201416207 bytecodes/sec; 5898874 sends/sec laurent laffont a Ã©crit : > Thanks Hilaire. > > Could you try with this source ? It has gnuification (using > Gnuified.st). On my machine it's a little slower but may be it makes a > big difference on yours. > On my machine, I have almost the same result with Exupery and Squeak VM :( > > wget > http://lolgzs.free.fr/pharo/squeak-vm/Squeak-3.11.3.2135-pharo-gnuified-src… > > > Laurent Laffont > > > On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Hilaire Fernandes > <hilaire.fernandes(a)gmail.com > <mailto:hilaire.fernandes@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Laurent, > > I runned the same benchmark with Exupery, here is > > Exupery > 202371541 bytecodes/sec; 5948654 sends/sec > 201574803 bytecodes/sec; 5948654 sends/sec > 201416207 bytecodes/sec; 5933632 sends/sec > 202531645 bytecodes/sec; 5903814 sends/sec > 201892744 bytecodes/sec; 5938631 sends/sec > > > -O2 (compiled source code from the archive you provided) > 87372013 bytecodes/sec; 4436220 sends/sec > 86544962 bytecodes/sec; 4501376 sends/sec > 86253369 bytecodes/sec; 4507132 sends/sec > 86253369 bytecodes/sec; 4487049 sends/sec > 87372013 bytecodes/sec; 4498503 sends/sec > > You better check with Bryce. > > > Hilaire > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > <mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 4, 2010

[Pharo-project] [update 1.1] #11306 11307 11308

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

11306 ----- - Issue 2220: CombinedChar>>#add: - Issue 2273: RectangleExtent comment - Issue 2241: Character class>> euro 11307 ----- - Issue 2267: do:displayingProgress: enh - removing extra feedback from update utilities 11308 ----- - Issue 2258: Too many deprecation warnings. Thanks hernan stef and mariano (eating chocolates)

April 4, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [BetaTesting] [ANN] Pharo-1.0-10517-rc4dev10.04.1

by Stan Shepherd

laurent laffont wrote: > > With my VM on Archlinux 32 bits: > > 9176 run, 9156 passes, 20 expected failures, 0 failures, 0 errors, 0 > unexpected passes. > > Stan, could you try using this VM ? > With that vm, 1 fail: MCInitializationTest>>#testWorkingCopy It passes on subsequent runs. ...Stan -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/BetaTesting-ANN-Pharo-1-0-10517-rc4dev10-04-1-tp174923… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

April 4, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Problem loading Exupery on PharoCore 1.0

by Alexandre Bergel

Maybe a non-visible character? Cheers, Alexandre On 4 Apr 2010, at 04:32, laurent laffont wrote: > I do: > Gofer new > squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; > package: 'ConfigurationOfMondrian'; > load.. > > ConfigurationOfMondrian project latestVersion load. > > Then > > Gofer new > squeaksource: 'Exupery'; > package: 'Exupery'; > load. > > ==> Syntax Error > > testLiteralVariableAddress > source := MedMethod > createIntermediate: > #((block 1 (mov(literalVariableAddress 10) t1) )Nothing more > expected ->) > for: machine. > mockEmitter expectEmission: > #( (block1 > (mov #(#emitFetchAddress 1 #(#simplifiedLiteralAddress 10)) t1)) > (block2) ). > > self simplifyFullyMocked. > > self verify. > mockEmitter verify. > > > Laurent Laffont > > > On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 10:26 AM, laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com > > wrote: > OK Thanks. I will try. Would be cool to have a > ConfigurationOfExupery :). > > Laurent Laffont > > > On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > Hi Laurent, > > Something is wrong. MOAbstractLayout and MOGraphVizLayout come from > Mondrian. Were these by mistake somehow added as dependencies to > Exupery? > Doru > > > > On 4 Apr 2010, at 10:06, laurent laffont wrote: > > Hi, > > I want to try to build Exupery VM. On PharoCore 1.0 I do: > > Gofer new > squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; > package: 'ConfigurationOfVMMaker'; > load. > > (ConfigurationOfVMMaker project version: '1.2') load. > > Then > > Gofer new > squeaksource: 'Exupery'; > package: 'Exupery'; > load. > > I have this error: > > This package depends on the following classes: > MOAbstractLayout > You must resolve these dependencies before you will be able to load > these definitions: > MOGraphVizLayout > MOGraphVizLayout>>doExecute: > MOGraphVizLayout>>findTopLeftCorner: > > > I suppose I need GraphViz package > > Gofer new > squeaksource: 'GraphViz'; > package: 'GraphViz'; > load. > > But when I load it I have a Syntax Error: > > runWithSystemFramework: string > <> expected ->apicall: short 'system' (char*) module: > 'System.framework'> > > ^ self externalCallFailed > > Laurent Laffont > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "It's not how it is, it is how we see it." > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

April 4, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Problem loading Exupery on PharoCore 1.0

by Alexandre Bergel

Laurent, I separated MOGraphVizLayout from the main Mondrian distribution. You will find this package in the Mondrian squeaksource repository. cheers, Alexandre On 4 Apr 2010, at 04:06, laurent laffont wrote: > Hi, > > I want to try to build Exupery VM. On PharoCore 1.0 I do: > > Gofer new > squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; > package: 'ConfigurationOfVMMaker'; > load. > > (ConfigurationOfVMMaker project version: '1.2') load. > > Then > > Gofer new > squeaksource: 'Exupery'; > package: 'Exupery'; > load. > > I have this error: > > This package depends on the following classes: > MOAbstractLayout > You must resolve these dependencies before you will be able to load > these definitions: > MOGraphVizLayout > MOGraphVizLayout>>doExecute: > MOGraphVizLayout>>findTopLeftCorner: > > > I suppose I need GraphViz package > > Gofer new > squeaksource: 'GraphViz'; > package: 'GraphViz'; > load. > > But when I load it I have a Syntax Error: > > runWithSystemFramework: string > <> expected ->apicall: short 'system' (char*) module: > 'System.framework'> > > ^ self externalCallFailed > > Laurent Laffont > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

April 4, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] A port of Pharo: Redline Smalltalk ...

by Alexandre Bergel

Hi James, I do not know how related is it to your work, but I made some experiment to translate Smalltalk into Java (http://www.squeaksource.com/Smalltalk2Java.html ). Cheers, Alexandre On 3 Apr 2010, at 20:16, James Ladd wrote: > Hi Pharo-ites, > > > > I'm working on a port of Pharo to the Java Virtual Machine called > Redline Smalltalk. > > (read more here: http://jamesladdcode.com/?p=323) > > >> Excellent I think that having a smalltalk running on JVM is cool. > Did you check SqueakOnJava? > > I have looked at these implementations, Bistro and others. > However, I'm wanting to get as close to native JVM Bytecode as > possible. > > >>Why do you want to port the compiler in Java? > >>In Java you should only implement the necessary infrastructure to > run the object model of Pharo (primitives > >>in particular). Then you can load Smalltalk code and you do not need > >>to compile smalltalk code in smalltalk? > > A good point, but I'm not sure how that approach would allow > profiling, debugging and > integration with Java. This is outlined a little in the previous post: > http://jamesladdcode.com/?p=311 > > >> study little Smalltalk for example to get an idea. > Would it be sufficient to choose those classes that are also > outlined in the ANSI standard? > > Rgs, James. > > Australia's #1 job site If It Exists, You'll Find it on SEEK > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

April 4, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] RE: Dynamic content in inspector??

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

Lukas, That is certainly a workaround, but I have serious reservations about any surprises that might result from text that I choose to display to represent an object and without subsequently interacting with the inspector. Bill -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Lukas Renggli Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 2:46 AM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] RE: Dynamic content in inspector?? I think you should fix your #printOn: method not to cause any side-effects. #printOn: belongs to the public protocol and can be called by any tool at any time on any object. Lukas On 4 April 2010 02:58, Schwab,Wilhelm K <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu> wrote: > I appreciate the tip, but I'm trying to go the other direction: I want the inspector to stop messing around with what should be sleeping dogs. Â There really does appear to be some type of side effect of the multi-line print string, and no doubt the precise text I am displaying. > > Bill > > > -----Original Message----- > From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of > HernÃ¡n Morales Durand > Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 7:40 PM > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] RE: Dynamic content in inspector?? > > If you want to monitor or track any object in a workspace-like morph with a specific periodicity, then you may want to install the EventsMonitor package and implement your own monitor subclassing GenericMonitor and implementing #report and #windowTitle. EventMonitor and OBEventMonitor are just provided as examples. > Cheers, > > HernÃ¡n > > 2010/4/4 Schwab,Wilhelm K <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu>: >> I certainly didn't install it, nor do I find EventMonitor in the image. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of >> HernÃ¡n Morales Durand >> Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 6:53 PM >> To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list >> Cc: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] RE: Dynamic content in inspector?? >> >> http://www.squeaksource.com/EventsMonitor.html ? >> >> HernÃ¡n >> >> 2010/4/4 Schwab,Wilhelm K <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu>: >>> Help.... >>> >>> This might be a problem in Pharo (RC1) in general or in its standard toolset, but I have a multi-line print string that when displayed in an inspector appears to try to edit the receiver and cause strangeness. Â Is that a known problem with a solution? >>> >>> Bill >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of >>> Schwab,Wilhelm K >>> Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 1:59 PM >>> To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> Subject: [Pharo-project] Dynamic content in inspector?? >>> >>> Hello all, >>> >>> With the understanding that I am doing non-trivial FFI work and could have completely fried my image already, I'm wondering if this is a common Squeak/Pharo newbie kind of amazement: I create and inspect a new instance of something that has a #printOn: method, and the contents of the inspector's workspace change with time. >>> >>> I have seen inspectors update to track objects in the past, but this behavior is unwanted. Â I thought of finalization, but that appears not to be happening (nor should it be with the object inspected). >>> >>> I will keep looking, but plausible explanations will be appreciated. >>> >>> Bill >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 4, 2010