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Re: [Pharo-project] Linux Pharo VM on Pharo website

by laurent laffont

Now on INRIAGForge server: https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/26793/squeak-3.11.3.2151-pharo-src… Laurent Laffont On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 12:37 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > wrote: > laurent if you want register using the rmod team and let me know so that I > add you to the pharo project. > > stef > > On Apr 7, 2010, at 9:09 AM, laurent laffont wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 9:07 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < > stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > thanks laurent > > > > Do you have an account in the inria gforge? > > > > No > > > > Laurent Laffont > > > > > > On Apr 7, 2010, at 8:34 AM, laurent laffont wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I've prepared the following archive. It may replace the "Unix (3.11-3)" > download link. > > > > > > > http://lolgzs.free.fr/pharo/squeak-vm/squeak-3.11.3.2151-pharo-src.tar.gz > > > > > > In this archive: > > > > > > - patched squeak-vm rev. 2151. (The 2 patches are for FT2Plugin build > and multiple options in CFLAGS to work. Patchs in archive). > > > - awk gnuification > > > - README with instructions to build and regenerate this source from > VMMaker > > > - All Pharo-1.0 tests green (on my machine ...) > > > - it has been built/tested by several people in order to send me > tinyBenchmark results :) > > > > > > The tinyBenchmarks are not as good as Exupery one, but this vary a lot > depending on the CPU. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Laurent Laffont > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Pharo-project mailing list > > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

April 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Redline Smalltalk

by Michael Haupt

Hi StÃ©phane, On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 3:45 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > the one of potataoe and the code that we can find on Jsqueak web site. > I imagine that they are not the same. they are not. As far as I understood it, the code available from the JSqueak page is JSqueak as originally released by Dan, and is not further developed, while the Potato SourceForge page and repository represent ongoing (well, as far as it goes with the manpower available) development. Best, Michael

April 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Menu navigation

by Sean P. DeNigris

StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > > Now sean as mariano mentioned it if some behavior are really used all time > then we will change to > make them easier to use. > I appreciate that - my purpose was about the general flow of sub-menus, rather than that specific one, which I used as an example (but which I happen to use every time I open the image because, in full screen mode, Pharo (and Squeak) opens on the primary display instead of the display it was last used/saved on) StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > > What you can also do is to define a Script to do it for you and to setup > your image the exact way you want. > Cool, I'll try that. Is there a good place to look for info on how to do that? StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > > In 1.1 I would like to change the Code recovering subsub list. This is too > deep. > I tried and broke it so I should retry. > This part went right over my head :) Sean -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/Menu-navigation-tp1754368p1754453.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

April 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Menu navigation

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

> > I put the user movements to emphasize the greater amount and variety of > effort required (not thinking of readers reproducing the steps :( ). > System -> Preferences... -> Full screen on > > My point, which you clarified for me, is more that the way submenus appear > in Squeak seems to flow better i.e. when you want to open a submenu, you > click on it and it replaces the outer menu in the same place vertically so > you can just continue to move down, as opposed to hovering, moving to the > right (which breaks the 'moving down' flow, and navigating the submenu. ok I see what you mean > Maybe they could coexist, since clicking on a menu item with a submenu > doesn't seem to do anything useful now? Yes this is probably a good suggestion. But if we click on a menu with a submenu what should happen? The menu on the right should slide and replace the current one. I have the impression that may be the theme should be able to implement thes two different behavior separated. > -- > View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/Menu-navigation-tp1754368p1754402.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 7, 2010

[Pharo-project] who is maintaining shout?

by Torsten Bergmann

Stef wrote >Because I would like to change the default color of comments. >Green is really ugly for the release. Please no! This is subject to personal taste. In most text editors and IDE's I know the comments are always green by default independent from language. So I would keep it since this is what is common in developer tools. If you want you can have your own. So shout is already what most users may expect. Please keep it. See C/C++ Eclipse http://img.brothersoft.com/screenshots/softimage/e/eclipse_ide_for_c-c++_de… C/C++ VStudio http://www.lisisoft.com/imglisi/4/OptimizeUtilities/51119text-editor-pro-sc… PHP Antechius http://www.lisisoft.com/imglisi/7/HelpfileTools/37086phpedscreen.jpg JavaScript http://assets.devx.com/articlefigs/19100.png Java Eclipse http://www.oio.de/public/opensource/eclipse/eclipse_editor.jpg C# Eclipse http://emonic.sourceforge.net/html/CSharpEditorWithCompletion.jpg VB SharpDevelop http://www.borncity.de/Net/Img/SharpDevelop.jpg ... Bye T. -- GRATIS fÃ¼r alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01

April 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Menu navigation

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

in 1.1 this is even more complex :) because you have to use the default setting browser. Now sean as mariano mentioned it if some behavior are really used all time then we will change to make them easier to use. What you can also do is to define a Script to do it for you and to setup your image the exact way you want. In 1.1 I would like to change the Code recovering subsub list. This is too deep. I tried and broke it so I should retry. Stef On Apr 7, 2010, at 3:56 PM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > > It seems that the world menu navigation is not as usable as that of Squeak. > > For example, to go to full screen mode: > Squeak: click -> move down -> click -> move down -> click > Pharo: click -> move down -> move right -> click -> move down -> click > > What is the advantage of this way? > > Sean > -- > View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/Menu-navigation-tp1754368p1754368.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] who is maintaining shout?

by Lukas Renggli

> Because I would like to change the default color of comments. > Green is really ugly for the release. This is my color scheme I am using since 1992 when I first programmed in BASIC and Pascal. I don't know why people use my own personal fork of the code? Looks like Shout has no official maintainer. Lukas -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

April 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] How to manage todo?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

> I propose that we use >> >> Type-Task or Type-ToDo for the management of some items that are not directly bug. >> Marcus? adrian? is it ok for you? > > As a frist step good. I personally would like to destinguish bugs from feature requests. Bugs > are bad and I want as little as possible. Feature request are good and I want as many as possible... > > Another aspect is: Bugs I feel kind of responsible to fix. Feature request I say: If this is really important, > someone will do it. (someone not me). Ok I like this distinction. I will recategorise. I added some TODO items (like going to the prefecture) Stef > > Marcus > > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de > INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] How to manage todo?

by Adrian Lienhard

On Apr 7, 2010, at 15:50 , StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > I propose that we use > > Type-Task or Type-ToDo for the management of some items that are not directly bug. > Marcus? adrian? is it ok for you? yes, looks good Adrian > Stef > > On Apr 7, 2010, at 3:38 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> Hi guys >> >> We have bug entries and now I have one question. >> Do we want to mix or not todo within them? >> I deleted all the old tasks from the inria web site. >> Now we could use it. >> >> Do you have experience managing todo (which may be orthogonal to issue and bug trcking)? >> >> Stef >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Menu navigation

by Sean P. DeNigris

Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > I would be more detailed. Why don't you say the menu labels instead of > move > xxx ? > >> What is the advantage of this way? > > I have no idea. What I do am aware of is that we want clean and short > menus > for Pharo. Having looong list menus is unconfortable to work with. How > frequently do you use that option ? how many people use that ? > I put the user movements to emphasize the greater amount and variety of effort required (not thinking of readers reproducing the steps :( ). System -> Preferences... -> Full screen on My point, which you clarified for me, is more that the way submenus appear in Squeak seems to flow better i.e. when you want to open a submenu, you click on it and it replaces the outer menu in the same place vertically so you can just continue to move down, as opposed to hovering, moving to the right (which breaks the 'moving down' flow, and navigating the submenu. Maybe they could coexist, since clicking on a menu item with a submenu doesn't seem to do anything useful now? -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/Menu-navigation-tp1754368p1754402.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

April 7, 2010