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[Pharo-project] Potato and jSqueak ...

by James Ladd

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April 8, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Linux 3.11-3 vm and shared libraries

by Dale Henrichs

In the link there's also mention of a change in the search path ... Dale ----- "Wilhelm K Schwab" <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu> wrote: | Dale, | | That *cannot* be the only option for arbitrary external libraries - | that will break things like odbc, or at best force people to create | links in order to compensate. Hopefully, you are thinking of | plugins. | | Bill | | | | | -----Original Message----- | From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Dale | Henrichs | Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 1:19 PM | To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | Cc: The general-purpose Squeak developers list; | Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Linux 3.11-3 vm and shared libraries | | Bill, | | I haven't followed your trials and tribulations with libraries, but I | do know that starting with version 3.11-3 of the Squeak vm(see | 'http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/vm-dev/2009-September/003206.ht…'), | the naming conventions for dynamically loaded files was changed to use | a _leading_ so. instead of a trailing .so.... | | Dale | ----- "Wilhelm K Schwab" <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu> wrote: | | | I think there is something wrong with the library searches in | 3.11-3. | | It is one thing for my hacked together .so to avoid detection due to | | | some mistake on my part, but has anyone tried ODBC on Linux with the | | | new vm? It's sitting in /usr/lib like it has always been; the vm | | should find it, right? | | | | Bill | | | | | | -----Original Message----- | | From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | | [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of | | Schwab,Wilhelm K | | Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 10:57 AM | | To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list; | | Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | | Subject: [Pharo-project] Linux 3.11-3 vm and shared libraries | | | | Hello all, | | | | I am trying to use the 3.11-3 vm to see if it fixes my double return | | | value problem, and I cannot get it to load the library to do the | test | | =:0 At this point, I am just guessing. Can someone who has been | | successful at it give me an example? What is the .so file named, | how | | do you refer to it in #moduleName, where do you put the file | relative | | to the vm? | | | | Bill | | | | | | _______________________________________________ | | Pharo-project mailing list | | Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | | http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project | | | | _______________________________________________ | | Pharo-project mailing list | | Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | | http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project | | _______________________________________________ | Pharo-project mailing list | Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Linux 3.11-3 vm and shared libraries

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

Laurent, Probably the best starting point is to install the odbc package and use it to connect to a datasource. Then load the new vm and see if breaks. Thanks!! Bill ________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of laurent laffont Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 1:35 PM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Cc: The general-purpose Squeak developers list Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Linux 3.11-3 vm and shared libraries Hi Bill, I don't really understand what you're doing, too many mails in my inbox, I'm lost :) What simple test / code can I run to reproduce your problem and try to help you ? It seems interesting. Cheers, Laurent Laffont On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu<mailto:bschwab@anest.ufl.edu>> wrote: I think there is something wrong with the library searches in 3.11-3. It is one thing for my hacked together .so to avoid detection due to some mistake on my part, but has anyone tried ODBC on Linux with the new vm? It's sitting in /usr/lib like it has always been; the vm should find it, right? Bill -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr> [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr>] On Behalf Of Schwab,Wilhelm K Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 10:57 AM To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list; Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> Subject: [Pharo-project] Linux 3.11-3 vm and shared libraries Hello all, I am trying to use the 3.11-3 vm to see if it fixes my double return value problem, and I cannot get it to load the library to do the test =:0 At this point, I am just guessing. Can someone who has been successful at it give me an example? What is the .so file named, how do you refer to it in #moduleName, where do you put the file relative to the vm? Bill _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Linux 3.11-3 vm and shared libraries

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

Dale, That *cannot* be the only option for arbitrary external libraries - that will break things like odbc, or at best force people to create links in order to compensate. Hopefully, you are thinking of plugins. Bill -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Dale Henrichs Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 1:19 PM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Cc: The general-purpose Squeak developers list; Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Linux 3.11-3 vm and shared libraries Bill, I haven't followed your trials and tribulations with libraries, but I do know that starting with version 3.11-3 of the Squeak vm(see 'http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/vm-dev/2009-September/003206.ht…'), the naming conventions for dynamically loaded files was changed to use a _leading_ so. instead of a trailing .so.... Dale ----- "Wilhelm K Schwab" <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu> wrote: | I think there is something wrong with the library searches in 3.11-3. | It is one thing for my hacked together .so to avoid detection due to | some mistake on my part, but has anyone tried ODBC on Linux with the | new vm? It's sitting in /usr/lib like it has always been; the vm | should find it, right? | | Bill | | | -----Original Message----- | From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of | Schwab,Wilhelm K | Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 10:57 AM | To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list; | Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | Subject: [Pharo-project] Linux 3.11-3 vm and shared libraries | | Hello all, | | I am trying to use the 3.11-3 vm to see if it fixes my double return | value problem, and I cannot get it to load the library to do the test | =:0 At this point, I am just guessing. Can someone who has been | successful at it give me an example? What is the .so file named, how | do you refer to it in #moduleName, where do you put the file relative | to the vm? | | Bill | | | _______________________________________________ | Pharo-project mailing list | Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project | | _______________________________________________ | Pharo-project mailing list | Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] CollabActive book :)

by Michael Roberts

so it seems that indeed it is fine at home. I confirmed that the in the former setup, the redirects (I assume) go missing. every execution of the command goes back to the the page I started from. Even the edit of a typo on a page, caused the page to reload and revert the edit. anyway i was only testing it out at lunch, it is not a big problem. cheers Mike

April 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] How to manage todo?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

tx I checked the inria task is too complex (the idea is to manage dependency and produce gantt about tasks). Stef > In Moose we use mainly: > Type-Engineering = (Re)engineering the code base to enhance its quality > Type-Defect = Report of a software defect > Type-Enhancement = Request for enhancement > > and from time to time: > Type-Project = Long-term project or autonomous task > Type-Review = Request for a code review > Type-Other = Some other kind of issue > > Cheers, > Doru > > On 7 Apr 2010, at 16:30, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >>> I propose that we use >>>> >>>> Type-Task or Type-ToDo for the management of some items that are not directly bug. >>>> Marcus? adrian? is it ok for you? >>> >>> As a frist step good. I personally would like to destinguish bugs from feature requests. Bugs >>> are bad and I want as little as possible. Feature request are good and I want as many as possible... >>> >>> Another aspect is: Bugs I feel kind of responsible to fix. Feature request I say: If this is really important, >>> someone will do it. (someone not me). >> >> Ok I like this distinction. I will recategorise. >> I added some TODO items (like going to the prefecture) >> >> Stef >> >>> >>> Marcus >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de >>> INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Sometimes the best solution is not the best solution." > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Handle Close Event in Image - necessary for 1.0?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Apr 7, 2010, at 5:54 PM, Henrik Johansen wrote: > > On Apr 7, 2010, at 12:38 25PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> Thanks Henrik >> this is something I understand. I will integrate that for 1.1 > > Yes, there's some new stuff there which won't work well if we ever move towards multi-window support, but the entire event-handling will have to be rewritten in that case anyways, so I didn't think too much of it. > I'd say the first step in any case would be moving Event-object generation out of the HandMorph class... (did MVC make its own kind of events?) > > Probably a good idea to switch to something reacting to new events in the queue rather than polling it too, if we intend to ever switch the inputEventPollingFetcher for the actual InputEventFetcher some time in the future. Yes I think that we should move to not use a polling of event. > Though, InputEventSensor installEventSensorFramework seems borken on Windows now (eventbuffer overflows with 4.0.2 VM ), and incredibly slow to signal semaphore (albeit not loosing any events anymore in 1.1) on a Mac 4.2.4 VM. On the 5.X series, it works like a dream though :D > > Cheers, > Henry > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] who is maintaining shout?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Ok good to know. Stef >> Maybe add a new Setting for Shout for Pharo 1.1 ? > > Yeah, but it is difficult because the code is built around these > specification arrays. > > You can already today change the settings without touching the code > (in a load script for example): > > SHTextStylerST80 styleTable: #( (comment ( green ) ... ) > > Lukas > >> >>> >>> Stef >>> >>> On Apr 7, 2010, at 5:34 PM, Peter Hugosson-Miller wrote: >>> >>>> I absolutely agree with Torsten. Here's one I made myself for VaSt, and >>>> I've been using it for 8 years now: >>>> >>>> <PehuTextEnhancer.png> >>>> >>>> Note (whatever you might think of all the other fonts and colours) that >>>> the comments are green ;-) >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Cheers, >>>> Peter >>>> >>>> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> wrote: >>>> Stef wrote >>>>> Because I would like to change the default color of comments. >>>>> Green is really ugly for the release. >>>> >>>> Please no! This is subject to personal taste. >>>> >>>> In most text editors and IDE's I know the comments are always >>>> green by default independent from language. >>>> >>>> So I would keep it since this is what is common in developer >>>> tools. If you want you can have your own. So shout is already >>>> what most users may expect. Please keep it. >>>> >>>> See >>>> >>>> C/C++ Eclipse >>>> http://img.brothersoft.com/screenshots/softimage/e/eclipse_ide_for_c-c++_de… >>>> C/C++ VStudio >>>> http://www.lisisoft.com/imglisi/4/OptimizeUtilities/51119text-editor-pro-sc… >>>> PHP Antechius >>>> http://www.lisisoft.com/imglisi/7/HelpfileTools/37086phpedscreen.jpg >>>> JavaScript http://assets.devx.com/articlefigs/19100.png >>>> Java Eclipse >>>> http://www.oio.de/public/opensource/eclipse/eclipse_editor.jpg >>>> C# Eclipse >>>> http://emonic.sourceforge.net/html/CSharpEditorWithCompletion.jpg >>>> VB SharpDevelop http://www.borncity.de/Net/Img/SharpDevelop.jpg >>>> ... >>>> >>>> Bye >>>> T. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> GRATIS fÃ¼r alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! >>>> Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > Lukas Renggli > www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Thanks for license agreement :)

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

you are welcome! There is a lot of simple things to do. On Apr 7, 2010, at 6:45 PM, Justin Langhorst wrote: > No problem StÃ©phane, now I just need to get around to contributing :) > BTW, hi everyone. > > On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 10:41 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse > <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> Hi Justin and Yanni >> >> I checked my mailbox today and saw your license agreement. >> >> Thanks >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Menu navigation

by Tudor Girba

Try this one: Gofer new squeaksource: 'setup'; package: 'Setup'; load. Cheers, Doru On 7 Apr 2010, at 17:55, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > I know that people around me use Setup something.... > so probably somebody will mention it to you. > > >>> >>> What you can also do is to define a Script to do it for you and to >>> setup >>> your image the exact way you want. >>> >> Cool, I'll try that. Is there a good place to look for info on how >> to do >> that? > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- www.tudorgirba.com "It's not what we do that matters most, it's how we do it."

April 7, 2010