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Re: [Pharo-project] [update 1.1] #11314 : textEditor from CUIS

by Mariano Martinez Peck

how can you test/use it ? On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 2:51 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > wrote: > [update 1.1] #11315 > 11315 > ----- > > > - Issue 1225: Harvest textEditor from Squeak. Thanks Fernando. Once more > now with the textEditor Classes. Sorry for the mess > > Now we should debug it. > > > Stef > On Apr 14, 2010, at 2:25 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: > > > This is so cool. I will give a try. > > > > Thanks Fernando, Juan and Stef for making this possible. > > > > Lukas > > > > On 14 April 2010 14:21, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > wrote: > >> 11314 > >> ----- > >> > >> - Merge gofer > >> - Issue 1225: Harvest textEditor from Squeak. Thanks Fernando. > >> > >> > >> Now we should debug it. So please use them and we will find and fix the > bugs. > >> > >> Stef > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Lukas Renggli > > www.lukas-renggli.ch > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

April 14, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 1.1] #11314 : textEditor from CUIS

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> wrote: > Interesting, it says "0 new updates installed" afterwards ... > I'm also not able to open the world menu on the "logo" area, > looks like the morph gets all the events. > > Yes, I noticed that....that's because the logo changed the class...I have no idea how to fix it. Maybe we should start by opening an issue. cheers mariano > Bye > T. > > > -- > GRATIS fÃ¼r alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! > Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

April 14, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Rome and Rome plugin

by John M McIntosh

There should be a rome plugin RomePlugin.bundle v 1.2.1 in the resource folder of the macintosh V4.x VMs... You'll need to chase why it doesn't load. Adjust the info.plist 'SqueakDebug' to 1 in the VM, start and then use apple's console application to check for messages in the system log to see what happens when it attempts to load the plugin. On 2010-04-14, at 2:45 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > But mike the romePlugin is in the resources folder. > > Stef > > On Apr 14, 2010, at 11:16 AM, Michael Rueger wrote: > >> On 4/14/2010 10:06 AM, Cyrille Delaunay wrote: >>> RomePlugin is present in none of listLoadedModules and listBuiltinModules >> >> that would explain the problem. >> You need the external plugin then. >> >> MIchael >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- =========================================================================== John M. McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> Twitter: squeaker68882 Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com ===========================================================================

April 14, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Open Pharo debugger from a Seaside wallback

by Mariano Martinez Peck

The problem SHOULD happens with both, Squeak and Pharo. The problem is basically that when using Monticello (mostly) some files like .changes are modifying a lot and then, the Antivirus is trying to analyze it. This problem has appeared several times. Mostly with Nod32 but also with other antivirus. The easiest solution is to add the directory where the .image and .changes are, to the "excluded" folders in the Nod32 configuration. Cheers Mariano On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Adrian Lienhard <adi(a)netstyle.ch> wrote: > Thanks for asking and answering the problem. I've add an item to > www.pharo-project.org/documentation/faq as it has become a FAQ. > > Adrian > > On Apr 14, 2010, at 15:21 , Facundo Vozzi wrote: > > > Mariano, > > I had to uninstall nod-32 and the problem disappeared. I don't know why > the > > problem doesn't happen with Squeak but it's ok on Pharo now. > > > > Thanks and sorry by my confusion, > > Facu > > > > 2010/4/12 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> > > > >> As Stef said...do you have some anti-virus program like nod-32 or > something > >> like that ? in such case you should exclude the directory where you > have > >> your Pharo image. > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:52 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < > >> stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> On Apr 12, 2010, at 10:46 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote: > >>> > >>>> It continues taking longer 15 seconds on 1.1 too, there isn't change. > I > >>> will try to compare with Squeak looking for the possible problem and > its > >>> solution. > >>>> > >>>> nobody has the same problem? > >>> > >>> No and this is strange because 1.1 got a lot of the stream changes that > >>> made squeak faster. > >>> > >>>> > >>>> Thank you, > >>>> Facu > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:28 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < > >>> stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On Apr 12, 2010, at 10:18 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Stef, > >>>>> I'm using Pharo 1.0 RC2 with Seaside 2.8.4 and all is fine but it > took > >>> over 15 seconds open a smalltalk debugger from a Seaside wallback. It > was > >>> the reason of my first mail. > >>>>> I tried with Squeak 4.1 RC4, to discard a network configuration > >>> problem at operative system level, and i don't have the problem. It > takes 1 > >>> second to open the debugger. > >>>>> Then, Marcus ask to me if i had the same problem with > >>> "PharoCore-1.1-11301-UNSTABLE", at that time I download it, installed > >>> Seaside and try again. To Install Seaside took to me over 20 minutes > but I > >>> had been instaled it on Pharo 1.0 and was been fine. > >>>> > >>>> ok so with 1.1 this is working? > >>>> There were a **lot** of changes in 1.1. We will release shortly after > >>> 1.0 and much much faster :) > >>>> > >>>>> Is it more clear now ?. Please, sorry for my poor English. > >>>> > >>>> Don;t worry. write simple sentences and we will understand you. > >>>>> > >>>>> Facu > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:03 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < > >>> stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >>>>> This is really strange. Can you describe your setup? Do you have an > >>> antivirus? And with Squeak you do not have that behavior? > >>>>> We are loading larger code than seaside in Pharo and we do not have > >>> this problem. > >>>>> So I would really like to understand. Could you post your image > >>> somewhere? > >>>>> > >>>>> Stef > >>>>> > >>>>> On Apr 12, 2010, at 9:27 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Stef, > >>>>>> It took to me over 20 minutes to complete the Seaside 2.8 > >>> installation and when I interrupted it the debugger opened when the > system > >>> was writting the pharoXXX.changes always but I couldn't check what is > >>> happening. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I will check it again. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Facu > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ps: I refered to pharoXXX.changes as "log" because of Visual > >>> Smalltalk where the "changes" are called changes.log, excuse me. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 3:05 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < > >>> stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Apr 12, 2010, at 7:45 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Marcus, > >>>>>>> I can't install Seaside on Pharo 1.1(*) but then i'll try again at > >>> home. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> It isn't my point to compare Pharo to Squeak performance but I > >>> used Squeak to test this particular situation. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thank you, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Facu > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> (*) it's very slow to write the log taking minutes to complete the > >>> instalation > >>>>>> > >>>>>> which log? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Stef > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Marcus Denker < > >>> marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:41 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:37 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Lukas, > >>>>>>>>> It happens on my machine with Windows/(Firefox-Chrome-IE 8) and > >>> Pharo. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> But I test it on the same machine with Squeak 4.1 RC4 and it go > >>> very very fast > >>>>>>>>> to open de smalltalk debugger. > >>>>>>>>> Furthermore, Squeak 4.1 RC4 seem to be faster than Pharo, did > >>> you note that too or it's only my sensations? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Did you check with Pharo 1.1? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>> > https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/26762/PharoCore-1.1-11301-UNSTABLE… > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> In general, Squeak 4.1 should not be compared to Pharo 1.0 > >>> speed-wise, but Pharo 1.1 > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> My theory for your bug is that it's this: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=860 > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> We added it to 1.1 on Nov. 01, 2009. Not to 1.0, because 1.0 was > >>> supposed to be released > >>>>>>> "very soon". > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Marcus > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de > >>>>>>> INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>>>>>> > >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> Facundo Vozzi > >>>>>>> InfOil S.A. > >>>>>>> Project Leader > >>>>>>> (+54-11) 4542-9999 x108 > >>>>>>> fvozzi(a)infoil.com.ar > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>>>>>> > >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> Facundo Vozzi > >>>>>> InfOil S.A. > >>>>>> Project Leader > >>>>>> (+54-11) 4542-9999 x108 > >>>>>> fvozzi(a)infoil.com.ar > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> Facundo Vozzi > >>>>> InfOil S.A. > >>>>> Project Leader > >>>>> (+54-11) 4542-9999 x108 > >>>>> fvozzi(a)infoil.com.ar > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Facundo Vozzi > >>>> InfOil S.A. > >>>> Project Leader > >>>> (+54-11) 4542-9999 x108 > >>>> fvozzi(a)infoil.com.ar > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >>> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Facundo Vozzi > > InfOil S.A. > > Project Leader > > (+54-11) 4542-9999 x108 > > fvozzi(a)infoil.com.ar > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

April 14, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] 1.0 One-Click image

by Adrian Lienhard

Here some explanation to the link Marcus posted... ;) This is Pharo RC4 packaged in a one-click image and it is intend to be officially released very soon now. Please check it out and report any critical problems. (You can also report non-critical problems, but they are going into 1.1, or if important enough, into a forthcoming 1.0.* maintenance release.) Cheers, Adrian On Apr 14, 2010, at 16:42 , Marcus Denker wrote: > > https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/26828/Pharo-1.0-OneClick.zip > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de > INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 14, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] pharo on sparc solaris

by Yanni Chiu

Tudor Girba wrote: > Unfortunately, I also do not have access to any compiling tools on this > machine (it's a server). Can anyone help me with this issue? > > The machine says it is: > $ uname -a > SunOS ejpdxa9017 5.10 Generic_142900-03 sun4v sparc > SUNW,SPARC-Enterprise-T5220 If you have a login and sufficient disk space, you could set up the build environment under that user account. Another possibility is to set up a cross-compiler on a machine (Intel or SPARC) that you have better control over. A search on: "gcc solaris cross compiler sparc" turned up some promising links. -- Yanni

April 14, 2010

[Pharo-project] [ANN] 1.0 One-Click image

by Marcus Denker

https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/26828/Pharo-1.0-OneClick.zip -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

April 14, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] CLFramework/UIBuilder

by laurent laffont

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 1:42 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > wrote: > > On Apr 14, 2010, at 1:36 PM, nullPointer wrote: > > > > > IÂ´m continue working on that,but does not have sense publish versions if > the > > development is not ended. > > I think that this is a mistake but this is your choice. Incremental > progress is the only way. > You can ask feedback from people and just say this is in alpha state can > you try it. > + 1. It's easier to understand, provide feedback, contribute, share experience on small things, where code available, progress visible. UI builder is cool. Pharo really needs it. >From time to time I load it, look at what has been done. I've used it to understand how GUI works and it has helped me. Cheers, Laurent Laffont > > > The people try use something than donÂ´t works > > good. I have the experience of try use a package of SqueakSource and > donÂ´t > > works or works bad. I donÂ´t want that sensation in the people. When the > > development be totally ended and exists a first version I update the > > CLFramework project, and will create a fews screencast. > > > > Regards. > > -- > > View this message in context: > http://n4.nabble.com/CLFramework-UIBuilder-tp1839595p1839648.html > > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

April 14, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Open Pharo debugger from a Seaside wallback

by Adrian Lienhard

Thanks for asking and answering the problem. I've add an item to www.pharo-project.org/documentation/faq as it has become a FAQ. Adrian On Apr 14, 2010, at 15:21 , Facundo Vozzi wrote: > Mariano, > I had to uninstall nod-32 and the problem disappeared. I don't know why the > problem doesn't happen with Squeak but it's ok on Pharo now. > > Thanks and sorry by my confusion, > Facu > > 2010/4/12 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> > >> As Stef said...do you have some anti-virus program like nod-32 or something >> like that ? in such case you should exclude the directory where you have >> your Pharo image. >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:52 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < >> stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> >>> >>> On Apr 12, 2010, at 10:46 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote: >>> >>>> It continues taking longer 15 seconds on 1.1 too, there isn't change. I >>> will try to compare with Squeak looking for the possible problem and its >>> solution. >>>> >>>> nobody has the same problem? >>> >>> No and this is strange because 1.1 got a lot of the stream changes that >>> made squeak faster. >>> >>>> >>>> Thank you, >>>> Facu >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:28 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < >>> stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>>> >>>> On Apr 12, 2010, at 10:18 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote: >>>> >>>>> Stef, >>>>> I'm using Pharo 1.0 RC2 with Seaside 2.8.4 and all is fine but it took >>> over 15 seconds open a smalltalk debugger from a Seaside wallback. It was >>> the reason of my first mail. >>>>> I tried with Squeak 4.1 RC4, to discard a network configuration >>> problem at operative system level, and i don't have the problem. It takes 1 >>> second to open the debugger. >>>>> Then, Marcus ask to me if i had the same problem with >>> "PharoCore-1.1-11301-UNSTABLE", at that time I download it, installed >>> Seaside and try again. To Install Seaside took to me over 20 minutes but I >>> had been instaled it on Pharo 1.0 and was been fine. >>>> >>>> ok so with 1.1 this is working? >>>> There were a **lot** of changes in 1.1. We will release shortly after >>> 1.0 and much much faster :) >>>> >>>>> Is it more clear now ?. Please, sorry for my poor English. >>>> >>>> Don;t worry. write simple sentences and we will understand you. >>>>> >>>>> Facu >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:03 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < >>> stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>>>> This is really strange. Can you describe your setup? Do you have an >>> antivirus? And with Squeak you do not have that behavior? >>>>> We are loading larger code than seaside in Pharo and we do not have >>> this problem. >>>>> So I would really like to understand. Could you post your image >>> somewhere? >>>>> >>>>> Stef >>>>> >>>>> On Apr 12, 2010, at 9:27 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Stef, >>>>>> It took to me over 20 minutes to complete the Seaside 2.8 >>> installation and when I interrupted it the debugger opened when the system >>> was writting the pharoXXX.changes always but I couldn't check what is >>> happening. >>>>>> >>>>>> I will check it again. >>>>>> >>>>>> Facu >>>>>> >>>>>> ps: I refered to pharoXXX.changes as "log" because of Visual >>> Smalltalk where the "changes" are called changes.log, excuse me. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 3:05 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < >>> stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 12, 2010, at 7:45 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Marcus, >>>>>>> I can't install Seaside on Pharo 1.1(*) but then i'll try again at >>> home. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It isn't my point to compare Pharo to Squeak performance but I >>> used Squeak to test this particular situation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Facu >>>>>>> >>>>>>> (*) it's very slow to write the log taking minutes to complete the >>> instalation >>>>>> >>>>>> which log? >>>>>> >>>>>> Stef >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Marcus Denker < >>> marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:41 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:37 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Lukas, >>>>>>>>> It happens on my machine with Windows/(Firefox-Chrome-IE 8) and >>> Pharo. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> But I test it on the same machine with Squeak 4.1 RC4 and it go >>> very very fast >>>>>>>>> to open de smalltalk debugger. >>>>>>>>> Furthermore, Squeak 4.1 RC4 seem to be faster than Pharo, did >>> you note that too or it's only my sensations? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Did you check with Pharo 1.1? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>> https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/26762/PharoCore-1.1-11301-UNSTABLE… >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In general, Squeak 4.1 should not be compared to Pharo 1.0 >>> speed-wise, but Pharo 1.1 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My theory for your bug is that it's this: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=860 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We added it to 1.1 on Nov. 01, 2009. Not to 1.0, because 1.0 was >>> supposed to be released >>>>>>> "very soon". >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Marcus >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de >>>>>>> INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>> >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Facundo Vozzi >>>>>>> InfOil S.A. >>>>>>> Project Leader >>>>>>> (+54-11) 4542-9999 x108 >>>>>>> fvozzi(a)infoil.com.ar >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>> >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Facundo Vozzi >>>>>> InfOil S.A. >>>>>> Project Leader >>>>>> (+54-11) 4542-9999 x108 >>>>>> fvozzi(a)infoil.com.ar >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Facundo Vozzi >>>>> InfOil S.A. >>>>> Project Leader >>>>> (+54-11) 4542-9999 x108 >>>>> fvozzi(a)infoil.com.ar >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Facundo Vozzi >>>> InfOil S.A. >>>> Project Leader >>>> (+54-11) 4542-9999 x108 >>>> fvozzi(a)infoil.com.ar >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > Facundo Vozzi > InfOil S.A. > Project Leader > (+54-11) 4542-9999 x108 > fvozzi(a)infoil.com.ar > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 14, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Open Pharo debugger from a Seaside wallback

by Facundo Vozzi

Mariano, I had to uninstall nod-32 and the problem disappeared. I don't know why the problem doesn't happen with Squeak but it's ok on Pharo now. Thanks and sorry by my confusion, Facu 2010/4/12 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> > As Stef said...do you have some anti-virus program like nod-32 or something > like that ? in such case you should exclude the directory where you have > your Pharo image. > > > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:52 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < > stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >> >> On Apr 12, 2010, at 10:46 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote: >> >> > It continues taking longer 15 seconds on 1.1 too, there isn't change. I >> will try to compare with Squeak looking for the possible problem and its >> solution. >> > >> > nobody has the same problem? >> >> No and this is strange because 1.1 got a lot of the stream changes that >> made squeak faster. >> >> > >> > Thank you, >> > Facu >> > >> > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:28 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < >> stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> > >> > On Apr 12, 2010, at 10:18 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote: >> > >> > > Stef, >> > > I'm using Pharo 1.0 RC2 with Seaside 2.8.4 and all is fine but it took >> over 15 seconds open a smalltalk debugger from a Seaside wallback. It was >> the reason of my first mail. >> > > I tried with Squeak 4.1 RC4, to discard a network configuration >> problem at operative system level, and i don't have the problem. It takes 1 >> second to open the debugger. >> > > Then, Marcus ask to me if i had the same problem with >> "PharoCore-1.1-11301-UNSTABLE", at that time I download it, installed >> Seaside and try again. To Install Seaside took to me over 20 minutes but I >> had been instaled it on Pharo 1.0 and was been fine. >> > >> > ok so with 1.1 this is working? >> > There were a **lot** of changes in 1.1. We will release shortly after >> 1.0 and much much faster :) >> > >> > > Is it more clear now ?. Please, sorry for my poor English. >> > >> > Don;t worry. write simple sentences and we will understand you. >> > > >> > > Facu >> > > >> > > >> > > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:03 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < >> stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> > > This is really strange. Can you describe your setup? Do you have an >> antivirus? And with Squeak you do not have that behavior? >> > > We are loading larger code than seaside in Pharo and we do not have >> this problem. >> > > So I would really like to understand. Could you post your image >> somewhere? >> > > >> > > Stef >> > > >> > > On Apr 12, 2010, at 9:27 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote: >> > > >> > > > Stef, >> > > > It took to me over 20 minutes to complete the Seaside 2.8 >> installation and when I interrupted it the debugger opened when the system >> was writting the pharoXXX.changes always but I couldn't check what is >> happening. >> > > > >> > > > I will check it again. >> > > > >> > > > Facu >> > > > >> > > > ps: I refered to pharoXXX.changes as "log" because of Visual >> Smalltalk where the "changes" are called changes.log, excuse me. >> > > > >> > > > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 3:05 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < >> stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> > > > >> > > > On Apr 12, 2010, at 7:45 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > Marcus, >> > > > > I can't install Seaside on Pharo 1.1(*) but then i'll try again at >> home. >> > > > > >> > > > > It isn't my point to compare Pharo to Squeak performance but I >> used Squeak to test this particular situation. >> > > > > >> > > > > Thank you, >> > > > > >> > > > > Facu >> > > > > >> > > > > (*) it's very slow to write the log taking minutes to complete the >> instalation >> > > > >> > > > which log? >> > > > >> > > > Stef >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Marcus Denker < >> marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:41 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:37 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote: >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> Lukas, >> > > > > >> It happens on my machine with Windows/(Firefox-Chrome-IE 8) and >> Pharo. >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> But I test it on the same machine with Squeak 4.1 RC4 and it go >> very very fast >> > > > > >> to open de smalltalk debugger. >> > > > > >> Furthermore, Squeak 4.1 RC4 seem to be faster than Pharo, did >> you note that too or it's only my sensations? >> > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Did you check with Pharo 1.1? >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/26762/PharoCore-1.1-11301-UNSTABLE… >> > > > > > >> > > > > > In general, Squeak 4.1 should not be compared to Pharo 1.0 >> speed-wise, but Pharo 1.1 >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > My theory for your bug is that it's this: >> > > > > >> > > > > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=860 >> > > > > >> > > > > We added it to 1.1 on Nov. 01, 2009. Not to 1.0, because 1.0 was >> supposed to be released >> > > > > "very soon". >> > > > > >> > > > > Marcus >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > -- >> > > > > Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de >> > > > > INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > > Pharo-project mailing list >> > > > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > > > > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > -- >> > > > > Facundo Vozzi >> > > > > InfOil S.A. >> > > > > Project Leader >> > > > > (+54-11) 4542-9999 x108 >> > > > > fvozzi(a)infoil.com.ar >> > > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > > Pharo-project mailing list >> > > > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > > > > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > Pharo-project mailing list >> > > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > -- >> > > > Facundo Vozzi >> > > > InfOil S.A. >> > > > Project Leader >> > > > (+54-11) 4542-9999 x108 >> > > > fvozzi(a)infoil.com.ar >> > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > Pharo-project mailing list >> > > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Pharo-project mailing list >> > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > Facundo Vozzi >> > > InfOil S.A. >> > > Project Leader >> > > (+54-11) 4542-9999 x108 >> > > fvozzi(a)infoil.com.ar >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Pharo-project mailing list >> > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Pharo-project mailing list >> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Facundo Vozzi >> > InfOil S.A. >> > Project Leader >> > (+54-11) 4542-9999 x108 >> > fvozzi(a)infoil.com.ar >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Pharo-project mailing list >> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Facundo Vozzi InfOil S.A. 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April 14, 2010