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Re: [Pharo-project] starting specific image in one-click Pharo?

by Lawson English

StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > On Apr 15, 2010, at 10:24 PM, Lawson English wrote: > > >> StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> >>> The one click image is a bundle. >>> u can open the bundle and change the image >>> Now I suggest you install the vm and you double on your image. >>> I do not use the oneclick because the package cache is inside and because I cannot decide what I execute easily >>> >>> >>> >> it should be easy to create an applescript shell that would launch first and let you choose which image you wanted to start with. Maybe some other command line parameters could be selected at that point also? >> > probably but not for me. > If you have it and it works we will happily include it. > > tell application "Finder" set myal to folder "Resources" of folder "Contents" of application file "Pharo-1.0.app" of folder "Desktop" of folder "lawsonenglish" of folder "Users" of startup disk open (choose file of type "image" default location myal as alias) end tell Not sure how to set the default behavior to call that script when the icon is double-clicked nor how to hide unwanted file names but it sorta works :-/. >> I'm not sure what you mean about the package cache though. Does the VM use the cache in the .app directory differently than when it appears it the regular directory? >> >> > > Mc creates a cache close to the image. > How is this a problem. Is there a way to chose the files to use? Lawson

April 15, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Really Important message (tm)

by GermÃ¡n Arduino

The letter is on the way. A first question, to help with unstable I should use it as it comes (with no added packages) or I can install somethings to make the environment more comfortable (as shout for example) ? GermÃ¡n. 2010/4/15 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: > Thanks! > As I said, 30 min are enough > Stef > > On Apr 15, 2010, at 9:25 PM, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: > >> ok, my signed agreement is leaving today for France. >> >> I will try to start understanding how is the contribution process in >> Pharo and playing a bit with unstable. >> >> Unfortunately I've very little free time, but still, will try to help. >> >> Cheers. >> >> >> 2010/4/15 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: >>> Hi guys >>> >>> Let me reiterate it: >>> >>> Â Â Â Â - We need you! >>> Â Â Â Â - 75 % of the issues on the bug tracker are simple. >>> Â Â Â Â - BTW how did we learn stuff, by reading code and learning. I'm not smart I'm just a tedious learner >>> Â Â Â Â I can any opportunity to learn something new. >>> Â Â Â Â - if you spend 30 min a week, YOU CAN get an IMPACT! >>> Â Â Â Â - if pharo is important for you then 30 min in a good investment >>> Â Â Â Â - every single LITTLE bugs fixed and improvement is IMPORTANT >>> Â Â Â Â - we do not want the final latest coolest superhyper cool and hyper clever fixes! >>> Â Â Â Â - we accept little improvement >>> Â Â Â Â - in UNSTABLE we have the right to push not 100% finish code >>> >>> Now think what YOU can do for pharo. Because Yes YOU can >>> Â Â Â Â - screencast >>> Â Â Â Â - checking tests (yesterday I moved CompiledMethodAsStringTest>>testPrint to CompiledMethodTest>>testPrint) Yeah hyper difficult >>> Â Â Â Â - Class comments: look at the URI class comment >>> Â Â Â Â - blogging >>> Â Â Â Â - tweeting >>> >>> >>> We should slowly change our process so that Pharo continue to evolve even if we disappear on the moon. >>> >>> Now I asked marcus to focus on the newcompiler and stop fixing little bugs because we want to make progress on other fronts. >>> >>> We want newcompiler - Â we want the newcompiler - Â we want the newcompiler and fixing it and fixing its interface. >>> We want Helvetia hooks -We want Helvetia hooks. >>> We want a new package object (but I do not find time to code argh). >>> >>> Stef >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> ================================================= >> GermÃ¡n S. Arduino Â <gsa @ arsol.net> Â Twitter: garduino >> Arduino Software & Web Hosting Â http://www.arduinosoftware.com >> PasswordsPro Â http://www.passwordspro.com >> ================================================= >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

April 15, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] FFI in 1.1

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

Stef, One argument made against it has been (lack of) security of the resulting image. There was also discussion of providing a command line option to suppress FFI if desired, so I think I would take both suggestions: include FFI (and/or Alien[*]) and address security concerns by allowing FFI to be disabled as the VM is launched. [*] I like the idea of being able to do callbacks in Smalltalk code, but I have also seen some mention that callouts to functions are not all that slick in Alien?? Right now, Alien might as well not exist in my world, because we have not been able to run it on Linux :( So far, I do not really have an opinion on whether it is a better way to go than FFI. As it is, we have some way to go before catching up with Dolphin; whether or not Alien is part of the answer, I can't say. Bill -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of StÃ©phane Ducasse Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 2:31 PM To: Pharo Development Subject: [Pharo-project] FFI in 1.1 Hi all Do we add FFI by default in 1.1? This was the plan so. Stef _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 15, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] starting specific image in one-click Pharo?

by Henrik Sperre Johansen

On 15.04.2010 22:32, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > On Apr 15, 2010, at 10:24 PM, Lawson English wrote: > >> StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >>> The one click image is a bundle. >>> u can open the bundle and change the image >>> Now I suggest you install the vm and you double on your image. >>> I do not use the oneclick because the package cache is inside and because I cannot decide what I execute easily >>> >>> >> it should be easy to create an applescript shell that would launch first and let you choose which image you wanted to start with. Maybe some other command line parameters could be selected at that point also? > probably but not for me. > If you have it and it works we will happily include it. > >> I'm not sure what you mean about the package cache though. Does the VM use the cache in the .app directory differently than when it appears it the regular directory? >> > Mc creates a cache close to the image. > >> Lawson Another option is to store your custom code in packages in a Monticello repository, that way you can easily load different branches after start up into the base image provided with the bundle. ;) You'd probably want to truncate the changes after startup once in a while doing that though, both because I don't think 1.0 had the changes for .changes file > 32MB, and there'd be less to wade through if you had to recover lost changes some time. Cheers, Henry

April 15, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] more evidence that I am a newbie

by Henrik Sperre Johansen

On 15.04.2010 22:47, Lawson English wrote: > Igor Stasenko wrote: >> On 15 April 2010 23:02, Lawson English <lenglish5(a)cox.net> wrote: >>> I tried to load Andreas Raab's ffi-based OpenGL packages into Pharo >>> 1.0... >>> >>> >>> (Installer repository: 'http://source.squeak.org/FFI') >>> install: 'FFI-Pools'; >>> install: 'FFI-Kernel'; >>> install: 'FFI-Tests'. >>> >>> (Installer repository: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/CroquetGL') >>> install: '3DTransform'; >>> install: 'OpenGL-Pools'; >>> install: 'OpenGL-Core'. >>> >>> OpenGL example >>> >>> I wasn't quite sure how to load them with Gofer so I did it manually >>> with >>> Monticello. >>> >>> However, when I "doIt" with 'OpenGL example' >>> >>> I get the error: >>> >>> MessageNotUnderstood: SystemDictionary>>platformName >>> OpenGL class>>new >>> OpenGL class>>newIn: >>> OpenGL example >>> >>> >>> No doubt its something totally trivial... Suggestions? >>> >> Select a #platformname selector with mouse , and then press alt-m to >> see who implements that message. >> Then try sending it from workspace until to make sure you found right >> implementor. >> Then modify the source code in OpenGL class>>new accordingly. >> ;) >> >> > Easy... TOO easy... :-) > > Lawson SMALLTALK easy! :D Cheers, Henry

April 15, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] more evidence that I am a newbie

by Lawson English

Igor Stasenko wrote: > On 15 April 2010 23:02, Lawson English <lenglish5(a)cox.net> wrote: > >> I tried to load Andreas Raab's ffi-based OpenGL packages into Pharo 1.0... >> >> >> (Installer repository: 'http://source.squeak.org/FFI') >> install: 'FFI-Pools'; >> install: 'FFI-Kernel'; >> install: 'FFI-Tests'. >> >> (Installer repository: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/CroquetGL') >> install: '3DTransform'; >> install: 'OpenGL-Pools'; >> install: 'OpenGL-Core'. >> >> OpenGL example >> >> I wasn't quite sure how to load them with Gofer so I did it manually with >> Monticello. >> >> However, when I "doIt" with 'OpenGL example' >> >> I get the error: >> >> MessageNotUnderstood: SystemDictionary>>platformName >> OpenGL class>>new >> OpenGL class>>newIn: >> OpenGL example >> >> >> No doubt its something totally trivial... Suggestions? >> >> > Select a #platformname selector with mouse , and then press alt-m to > see who implements that message. > Then try sending it from workspace until to make sure you found right > implementor. > Then modify the source code in OpenGL class>>new accordingly. > ;) > > > Easy... TOO easy... :-) Lawson

April 15, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] more evidence that I am a newbie

by Igor Stasenko

On 15 April 2010 23:02, Lawson English <lenglish5(a)cox.net> wrote: > I tried to load Andreas Raab's ffi-based OpenGL packages into Pharo 1.0... > > > (Installer repository: 'http://source.squeak.org/FFI') > Â install: 'FFI-Pools'; > Â install: 'FFI-Kernel'; > Â install: 'FFI-Tests'. > > (Installer repository: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/CroquetGL') > Â install: '3DTransform'; > Â install: 'OpenGL-Pools'; > Â install: 'OpenGL-Core'. > > OpenGL example > > I wasn't quite sure how to load them with Gofer so I did it manually with > Monticello. > > However, when I "doIt" with 'OpenGL example' > > I get the error: > > MessageNotUnderstood: SystemDictionary>>platformName > OpenGL class>>new > OpenGL class>>newIn: > OpenGL example > > > No doubt its something totally trivial... Suggestions? > Select a #platformname selector with mouse , and then press alt-m to see who implements that message. Then try sending it from workspace until to make sure you found right implementor. Then modify the source code in OpenGL class>>new accordingly. ;) > > Lawson > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

April 15, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] iPhone OS 4 SDK, section 3.3.1

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

>>> >> AH, if that is the case, then there is hope. If you could modify things so that only the official site could supply "content" then perhaps the policy can be circumvented... > > Not really. Apple wants to ensure that the behavior they test is the same as the behavior the users see. So no "active content" download. > > Typical apps do not download code, they are only updated when a new version gets released (and each new version is tested again by Apple). > > In that sense John's other apps are fine, they are just an executable written in a mix of C and Objective-C, plus a fixed datafile we usually call "image". This is exactly what I was wondering... What is a C application nowadays :) Still I think that the message from apple is blurring their image. Stef

April 15, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo 1.0 released!

by Adrian Lienhard

Thanks, Daniel, for posting on reddit! We currently are almost at the top of the list... Digg, anyone? Cheers, Adrian On Apr 15, 2010, at 17:06 , Daniel Birkinshaw wrote: > On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 04:47:49PM +0200, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >> Great!!! finally we did it :) >> >> Now...if someone know how to do it, it would be really cool to post in >> reddit or slashdot > > I was just about to but someone beat me to it: > http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/brb2y/want_to_try_smalltalk_ph… > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users

April 15, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] starting specific image in one-click Pharo?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Apr 15, 2010, at 10:24 PM, Lawson English wrote: > StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> The one click image is a bundle. >> u can open the bundle and change the image >> Now I suggest you install the vm and you double on your image. >> I do not use the oneclick because the package cache is inside and because I cannot decide what I execute easily >> >> > it should be easy to create an applescript shell that would launch first and let you choose which image you wanted to start with. Maybe some other command line parameters could be selected at that point also? probably but not for me. If you have it and it works we will happily include it. > I'm not sure what you mean about the package cache though. Does the VM use the cache in the .app directory differently than when it appears it the regular directory? > Mc creates a cache close to the image. > > Lawson > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 15, 2010