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Re: [Pharo-project] Newbie: How to load and use HTTP parser

by Andrei Stebakov

I found a 'Soup' HTML parser package which works really well for me: http://news.squeak.org/2009/01/19/soup-for-squeak/ 2010/5/11 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> > >>> > I have a simple task of parsing some html content in Pharo (loading an >>> html >>> > page using HTTPSocket and retrieving useful info from it). >>> > Having browsed for an html parser in my current one-click Pharo 1.0 >>> image, I >>> > couldn't find one. >>> > How do I find/download a (the) HTML parser? >>> >> > I put an HTML-Parser (package HTML) here when trying to make Scamper works > http://squeaksource.com/LaurentLSandbox.html but I think it's not really > stable. > > You may be interested in this screencast: > http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/2010/02/rest-xml-parsing-and-photos.html > > > >> > >>> > What's the general routine of discovering and installing packages in >>> Pharo? >>> > I believe in Squeak there was a menu to explore and download packages, >>> I >>> > couldn't find it in Pharo though. >>> >> > At the moment there's no "official" GUI. A good place to start is the > MetacelloRepository. http://www.squeaksource.com/MetacelloRepository > > Cheers, > > Laurent Laffont > > http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/ > http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ > >> > >>> > >>> > Thank you, >>> > Andrei >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Pharo-project mailing list >>> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> > >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

May 12, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Remove developing with Pharo

by Mariano Martinez Peck

> >>>> How do I install packages to the remote Pharo if I only have a command >>> line access to it via ssh? >>> >> >> Maybe I don't understand. At the beginning, at least once, you will have >> to copy the image and put it in the server. Before doing that, take that >> image in your desktop app, install RFB, START IT (don't forget this), and >> SAVE the image after doing that. Then, when you start the image in the >> server, the RFB objects will be alive and the VNC will be working ;) >> >> Enjoy the wonderful smalltalk world ;) >> > This sounds great. Let's say I've updated and installed all packages to the > pharo image on my Win machine, copied it over to the linux system. Now if I > start pharo (headless?) > YES!!!! the same as seaside ;) > I should be able to control if from anywhere (I still wonder about being > behind a firewall). > Yes. For the firewall you need to evaluate for example: HTTPSocket useProxyServerNamed: '10.100.1.4' port: 9090 proxyUser: 'Mariano' password: 'XXX' Of course, evaluate it before saving the image. Don't worry, in Pharo 1.1 this configuration is accessible with the new Settings browser. > What's the command to start pharo headless on linux? > Look and read the seside book. http://book.seaside.st/book/advanced/deployment/deployment-apache/run-vm Notice in the top right the input to search. Cheers Mariano > >> >> >>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> Mariano >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thank you, >>>>> Andrei >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

May 12, 2010

[Pharo-project] New packages to include in PharoDev 1.1

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Hi folks. We need to think if we want new packages for PharoDev 1.1. For the moment, we think in adding: - Packages from http://www.squeaksource.com/PharoNonCorePackages - ScriptManager - WorkingSet or Algernon - I don't agree, but people wanted also FFI - ProfStefBrowser In PharoDev 1.0 we assure all tests were green. Now we want the same. Some of the above packages not even have tests or have failing/error. Some of them, not even load in Pharo 1.1 because of the underscore assignment. Ok, this can be easily fixed. The same with the TheWorldMenu and Preferences, etc... I will be clear: I am asking you your opinion, but we need someone to do it. If everybody want, but nobody do, those packages won't be included. is there something else you think it should be added ? Cheers Mariano

May 12, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Remove developing with Pharo

by Andrei Stebakov

2010/5/12 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> > > > 2010/5/12 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat(a)gmail.com> > >> >> >> 2010/5/12 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> >> >> >>> >>> 2010/5/12 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat(a)gmail.com> >>> >>> Currently I have my web applications running on a Ubuntu box to which I >>>> connect from a remote WinXP system via ssh. >>>> >>> >>> I guess the subject should be "remote" instead of "remove" ? ;) >>> >>> Sorry I ask but why not you cannot just develop in your pc and with scp >>> or similar you copy the .image and .image file trough ssh to the server ? >>> >> Good question. Somehow historically I've installed a bunch of useful linux >> libraries on that Ubuntu box which are not even available on Windows. >> Secondly my web app will work with a bunch of graphical images (lots of GB) >> so I can't imagine synchronizing it with my Win system. Sure if there is no >> other good way (for Pharo), I'll try to adapt to the local development, but >> so far the remote development worked well for me. >> > > Ok...Understood. What about having normal VNC running in that Linux box and > accessing with a Windows client ? > > > >> >>> >>>> My current set of tools is Lisp/Slime/Emacs. >>>> I tried to launch Pharo with X11 forwarding using X-server on WinXP, but >>>> it painfully slow (the Pharo main windows redraws in a few minutes). >>>> I am really thinking developing some web app using Pharo/Seaside (I am >>>> liking the language more and more!) but I need to know to do it remotely via >>>> a secure connection. >>>> >>> >>> >>> Yes, there is an implementation of the VNC protocolol. You can take a >>> Pharo image and load a VNC server. Then, you can connect to any VNC client >>> and what you see is the image....Then you can do whatever you want. I don't >>> know the performance, thus. >>> >>> That package is called RFB (remote something buffer) >>> >>> http://book.seaside.st/book/advanced/deployment/maintaining/vnc >>> >>> To install it: >>> >>> Gofer it >>> squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; >>> package: 'ConfigurationOfRFB'; >>> load. >>> ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfRFB) project perform: #latestVersion) >>> load. >>> >>> How do I install packages to the remote Pharo if I only have a command >> line access to it via ssh? >> > > Maybe I don't understand. At the beginning, at least once, you will have to > copy the image and put it in the server. Before doing that, take that image > in your desktop app, install RFB, START IT (don't forget this), and SAVE the > image after doing that. Then, when you start the image in the server, the > RFB objects will be alive and the VNC will be working ;) > > Enjoy the wonderful smalltalk world ;) > This sounds great. Let's say I've updated and installed all packages to the pharo image on my Win machine, copied it over to the linux system. Now if I start pharo (headless?) I should be able to control if from anywhere (I still wonder about being behind a firewall). What's the command to start pharo headless on linux? > > > >> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Mariano >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Thank you, >>>> Andrei >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

May 12, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Remove developing with Pharo

by Mariano Martinez Peck

2010/5/12 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat(a)gmail.com> > > > 2010/5/12 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> > > >> >> 2010/5/12 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat(a)gmail.com> >> >> Currently I have my web applications running on a Ubuntu box to which I >>> connect from a remote WinXP system via ssh. >>> >> >> I guess the subject should be "remote" instead of "remove" ? ;) >> >> Sorry I ask but why not you cannot just develop in your pc and with scp or >> similar you copy the .image and .image file trough ssh to the server ? >> > Good question. Somehow historically I've installed a bunch of useful linux > libraries on that Ubuntu box which are not even available on Windows. > Secondly my web app will work with a bunch of graphical images (lots of GB) > so I can't imagine synchronizing it with my Win system. Sure if there is no > other good way (for Pharo), I'll try to adapt to the local development, but > so far the remote development worked well for me. > Ok...Understood. What about having normal VNC running in that Linux box and accessing with a Windows client ? > >> >>> My current set of tools is Lisp/Slime/Emacs. >>> I tried to launch Pharo with X11 forwarding using X-server on WinXP, but >>> it painfully slow (the Pharo main windows redraws in a few minutes). >>> I am really thinking developing some web app using Pharo/Seaside (I am >>> liking the language more and more!) but I need to know to do it remotely via >>> a secure connection. >>> >> >> >> Yes, there is an implementation of the VNC protocolol. You can take a >> Pharo image and load a VNC server. Then, you can connect to any VNC client >> and what you see is the image....Then you can do whatever you want. I don't >> know the performance, thus. >> >> That package is called RFB (remote something buffer) >> >> http://book.seaside.st/book/advanced/deployment/maintaining/vnc >> >> To install it: >> >> Gofer it >> squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; >> package: 'ConfigurationOfRFB'; >> load. >> ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfRFB) project perform: #latestVersion) >> load. >> >> How do I install packages to the remote Pharo if I only have a command > line access to it via ssh? > Maybe I don't understand. At the beginning, at least once, you will have to copy the image and put it in the server. Before doing that, take that image in your desktop app, install RFB, START IT (don't forget this), and SAVE the image after doing that. Then, when you start the image in the server, the RFB objects will be alive and the VNC will be working ;) Enjoy the wonderful smalltalk world ;) > >> Cheers >> >> Mariano >> >> >> >>> >>> Thank you, >>> Andrei >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

May 12, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Remove developing with Pharo

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

I have at times done what you are attempting, and painful is nicest adjective I can think to use. Please let us know if VNC is a better option. Re RDP, I have wondered whether the poor performance could be telling us something about the amount of drawing that might be happening for no purpose??? It can be terribly slow, especially the response to typing. Bill ________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Mariano Martinez Peck Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 10:25 AM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Remove developing with Pharo 2010/5/12 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat(a)gmail.com<mailto:lispercat@gmail.com>> Currently I have my web applications running on a Ubuntu box to which I connect from a remote WinXP system via ssh. I guess the subject should be "remote" instead of "remove" ? ;) Sorry I ask but why not you cannot just develop in your pc and with scp or similar you copy the .image and .image file trough ssh to the server ? My current set of tools is Lisp/Slime/Emacs. I tried to launch Pharo with X11 forwarding using X-server on WinXP, but it painfully slow (the Pharo main windows redraws in a few minutes). I am really thinking developing some web app using Pharo/Seaside (I am liking the language more and more!) but I need to know to do it remotely via a secure connection. Yes, there is an implementation of the VNC protocolol. You can take a Pharo image and load a VNC server. Then, you can connect to any VNC client and what you see is the image....Then you can do whatever you want. I don't know the performance, thus. That package is called RFB (remote something buffer) http://book.seaside.st/book/advanced/deployment/maintaining/vnc To install it: Gofer it squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; package: 'ConfigurationOfRFB'; load. ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfRFB) project perform: #latestVersion) load. Cheers Mariano Thank you, Andrei _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

May 12, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Remove developing with Pharo

by Andrei Stebakov

2010/5/12 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> > > > 2010/5/12 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat(a)gmail.com> > > Currently I have my web applications running on a Ubuntu box to which I >> connect from a remote WinXP system via ssh. >> > > I guess the subject should be "remote" instead of "remove" ? ;) > > Sorry I ask but why not you cannot just develop in your pc and with scp or > similar you copy the .image and .image file trough ssh to the server ? > Good question. Somehow historically I've installed a bunch of useful linux libraries on that Ubuntu box which are not even available on Windows. Secondly my web app will work with a bunch of graphical images (lots of GB) so I can't imagine synchronizing it with my Win system. Sure if there is no other good way (for Pharo), I'll try to adapt to the local development, but so far the remote development worked well for me. > > >> My current set of tools is Lisp/Slime/Emacs. >> I tried to launch Pharo with X11 forwarding using X-server on WinXP, but >> it painfully slow (the Pharo main windows redraws in a few minutes). >> I am really thinking developing some web app using Pharo/Seaside (I am >> liking the language more and more!) but I need to know to do it remotely via >> a secure connection. >> > > > Yes, there is an implementation of the VNC protocolol. You can take a Pharo > image and load a VNC server. Then, you can connect to any VNC client and > what you see is the image....Then you can do whatever you want. I don't know > the performance, thus. > > That package is called RFB (remote something buffer) > > http://book.seaside.st/book/advanced/deployment/maintaining/vnc > > To install it: > > Gofer it > squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; > package: 'ConfigurationOfRFB'; > load. > ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfRFB) project perform: #latestVersion) > load. > > How do I install packages to the remote Pharo if I only have a command line access to it via ssh? > > Cheers > > Mariano > > > >> >> Thank you, >> Andrei >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

May 12, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] DEVImageCreator >> setDefaultPreferences (alain?)

by Alain Plantec

Le 12/05/2010 17:07, Mariano Martinez Peck a Ã©crit : > > > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 9:47 PM, Alain Plantec <alain.plantec(a)free.fr > <mailto:alain.plantec@free.fr>> wrote: > > > > PharoDevSettingStyle>>load > "set your default 1.1 preferences here" > UITheme currentSettings fastDragging: true. > WorldState showUpdateOptionInWorldMenu: false. > > > > > If I don't define certain settings, where you get them ? > DefaultSettingStyle ? why ? because of > > styleName > <settingstyle> > ^ 'Default' > This is for the SettingBrowser, so, normally you don't have to take care of it. For other settings, don't do anything. they should be automatically initialized with their default value; lazily at least in the core as follow: UserInterruptHandler class>>#cmdDotEnabled ^ CmdDotEnabled ifNil: [CmdDotEnabled := true] Cheers Alain > ? > > I am trying to understand how it works ;) > > Thanks Alain! > > Mariano > > Cheers > > Alain > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > <mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >

May 12, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Remove developing with Pharo

by Mariano Martinez Peck

2010/5/12 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat(a)gmail.com> > Currently I have my web applications running on a Ubuntu box to which I > connect from a remote WinXP system via ssh. > I guess the subject should be "remote" instead of "remove" ? ;) Sorry I ask but why not you cannot just develop in your pc and with scp or similar you copy the .image and .image file trough ssh to the server ? > My current set of tools is Lisp/Slime/Emacs. > I tried to launch Pharo with X11 forwarding using X-server on WinXP, but it > painfully slow (the Pharo main windows redraws in a few minutes). > I am really thinking developing some web app using Pharo/Seaside (I am > liking the language more and more!) but I need to know to do it remotely via > a secure connection. > Yes, there is an implementation of the VNC protocolol. You can take a Pharo image and load a VNC server. Then, you can connect to any VNC client and what you see is the image....Then you can do whatever you want. I don't know the performance, thus. That package is called RFB (remote something buffer) http://book.seaside.st/book/advanced/deployment/maintaining/vnc To install it: Gofer it squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; package: 'ConfigurationOfRFB'; load. ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfRFB) project perform: #latestVersion) load. Cheers Mariano > > Thank you, > Andrei > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

May 12, 2010

[Pharo-project] Remove developing with Pharo

by Andrei Stebakov

Currently I have my web applications running on a Ubuntu box to which I connect from a remote WinXP system via ssh. My current set of tools is Lisp/Slime/Emacs. I tried to launch Pharo with X11 forwarding using X-server on WinXP, but it painfully slow (the Pharo main windows redraws in a few minutes). I am really thinking developing some web app using Pharo/Seaside (I am liking the language more and more!) but I need to know to do it remotely via a secure connection. Thank you, Andrei

May 12, 2010