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Re: [Pharo-project] Polymorph enhancements

by Tudor Girba

Hurray! :) Now back to reality :). I tried to load it in a 1.1, but it crashes the image. Is it supposed to work only in 1.2? Cheers, Doru On 10 Aug 2010, at 16:31, Gary Chambers wrote: > See: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2777 > > Mostly since Doru expressed an interest in closable tabs... ;-) > > Regards, Gary > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- www.tudorgirba.com "It's not how it is, it is how we see it."

Aug. 10, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Loading platform-specific code

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com>wrote: > > > Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > > ...did you know that Metacello let you > > handle platform specific code? > > > I'm assuming you mean [Squeak|Pharo...] platform - we're talking > [Mac|Windows...] > > > ahhh sorry....and what about conditional loading? and using spec:for or something like that? once I suggested Dale to add OS dependency to Metacello...I don't rememeber what happened. > Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > > Thus, you can define this in the ConfigurationOFfExternalWebBrowser, and > > not > > depend on a class side initialize. > > > Yes, it all started when I decided to move the load out of the > class>>initialization and into the Config, and I just wanted to poll to see > if my thinking was correct. > > > Norbert Hartl wrote: > > > > I think I don't fully understand what you mean with "lazily load" and > > "required for other platforms". But if it is just a choice when to load > > something then I would do while having a internet connection ;) > > > Yes, that is the choice, and that answers the question. Thanks. > > Sean > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Loading-platform-specific-code-tp2318610p2319751.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Aug. 10, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Polymorph enhancements

by Gary Chambers

Wait a mo, need to upload a fix for W2K theme... project hosting is currently read-only... Regards, Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary Chambers To: Pharo Development Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 3:31 PM Subject: [Pharo-project] Polymorph enhancements See: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2777 Mostly since Doru expressed an interest in closable tabs... ;-) Regards, Gary ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 10, 2010

[Pharo-project] Polymorph enhancements

by Gary Chambers

See: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2777 Mostly since Doru expressed an interest in closable tabs... ;-) Regards, Gary

Aug. 10, 2010

[Pharo-project] Change set fileout

by Gary Chambers

Has anyone else noticed that, very recently, when filing out change sets from the change sorter the filename is rather odd (at least on Windows)? Instead of the expected "OngoingFixes.2.cs" I'm getting "C##Users#Gazza#Desktop#Pharo#Contents#Resources#OngoingFixes.2.cs" saved where expected (in Contents\Resources). Regards, Gary

Aug. 10, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] 10 year old slides "Stable Squeak"

by Philippe Marschall

On 08/10/2010 08:54 AM, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On Aug 10, 2010, at 8:31 AM, Philippe Marschall wrote: > >> On 08/09/2010 05:16 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: >>> >>> On Aug 9, 2010, at 5:11 PM, Philippe Marschall wrote: >>> >>>> On 08/09/2010 09:50 AM, Marcus Denker wrote: >>>>> ... while slowly improving the archive of ESUG, I found these 10 year old slides: >>>>> >>>>> http://www.slideshare.net/esug/stable-squeak-world-tour >>>> >>>> Could you post them directly? I don't have flash on this computer. >>>> >>> http://www.slideshare.net/esug/stable-squeak-world-tour/download >>> >>> Does that work? >> >> Nope, I have to register. >> >> What's wrong with just putting a PDF available for download over FTP or >> HTTP? > > > I just uploaded the file and thought it would be interesting from today's perspective. > As I just uploade the stuff to slideshare, it was easy to pushlish the link. > > But this is now not that important... if I would have known that it's not that easy to view, > I would not have send the link in the first place. > > The idea is to have the ESUG archive available in more than just slideshare... but everything > takes time and I can do things only step by step. And the step right now is slideshare. > > Doing *anything* with an archive of 14 years of confrences takes a looong time.... > > There is an old html version here: > > http://esug.org/oldsrv/summerschools/2000_Southampton/stableSqueak/stableSq… Thank you, that works very well. Cheers Philippe

Aug. 10, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Why StringHolder

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

> > What's CUIS? :( another squeak fork > - then we should probably rewrite some parts and do not inherit from StringHolder > I never understood why MessageSet is a subclass of Browser :) > But I would focus on the > > > on the ...? paragraphEditor kicking out > > > > StringHolder class comment says: "I am a kind of Model that includes a piece of text. In some cases, the text can be edited, and in some the text is a method." > > > > And I smell that its main responsibility is to hold a Text or a String in its contents variable, and all its subclasses are there because of that... And if so, I don't like that inheritance approach :). > > This is exact. > > > I want to destroy (literally) that hierarchy :). And maybe it helps us in coming refactors and cleanings, so we can do them with less fear :P. > > So could you > review benjamin code? > > This evening I'll check it and compare it with the existant RecentMessageSet and that stuff. > > then check the texteditor/paragraphEditor > > I'll write it down in my TODO list :). But the idea is to replace ParagraphEditor with them, is it? yes > > > > > Well, this mail is just for ask for advice and argue about the correctness of this change (or not). > > > > Thanks for reading up to here! > > Guille > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 10, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Why StringHolder

by Francisco Ortiz PeÃ±aloza

Hi Guille, CUIS is Juan Vuletich's Smalltalk-80 environment derived from Squeak. See http://www.jvuletich.org/Cuis/Index.html Francisco 2010/8/10 Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito(a)gmail.com>: > > > On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 6:00 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse > <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> >> >> Benjamin started and rewrote the recentMessages and friends. >> If people can review his code it would be great. > > Ok, I'll watch it a few minutes this evening. > >> >> > Related with the issue >> > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2757 (Issue 2757: Refactor >> > StringHolder) I was looking at the StringHolder hierarchy, and well, it's >> > not very nice. Â Playing to see how difficult should it be to refactor the >> > hierarchy and decouple a bit those things, I took Workspace off from there, >> > and writing 2 methods it happened to work well (at least with what I tested, >> > hehe). >> > >> > Sooo, I wondered why a StringHolder, what responsibilities it has, and >> > what ones should it have... Â I found that most of the messages a >> > StringHolder understands are for browsing things and inspect things, such as >> > the Paragraph editor does :). Â And that's why Workspace could do all his >> > stuff when I made him inherit from Object... >> >> I think that we should >> Â Â Â Â - Replace ParagraphEditor by SmalltalkEditor, TextEditor >> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â (did not check but it should be like that in CUIS and >> Squeak) > > What's CUIS? :( > >> >> Â Â Â Â In Squeak >> >> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â TextMorph >> initialize >> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â "TextMorph initialize" >> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â "Initialize the default text editor class to use" >> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â DefaultEditorClass := SmalltalkEditor. >> >> >> Â Â Â Â - then we should probably rewrite some parts and do not inherit >> from StringHolder >> Â Â Â Â I never understood why MessageSet is a subclass of Browser :) >> Â Â Â Â But I would focus on the >> > > on the ...? > >> >> > StringHolder class comment says: "I am a kind of Model that includes a >> > piece of text. Â In some cases, the text can be edited, and in some the text >> > is a method." >> > >> > And I smell that its main responsibility is to hold a Text or a String >> > in its contents variable, and all its subclasses are there because of >> > that... Â And if so, I don't like that inheritance approach :). >> >> This is exact. >> >> > I want to destroy (literally) that hierarchy :). Â And maybe it helps us >> > in coming refactors and cleanings, so we can do them with less fear :P. >> >> So could you >> Â Â Â Â review benjamin code? > > This evening I'll check it and compare it with the existant RecentMessageSet > and that stuff. > >> >> Â Â Â Â then check the texteditor/paragraphEditor > > I'll write it down in my TODO list :).Â But the idea is to replace > ParagraphEditor with them, is it? > >> >> > >> > Well, this mail is just for ask for advice and argue about the >> > correctness of this change (or not). >> > >> > Thanks for reading up to here! >> > Guille >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Pharo-project mailing list >> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Aug. 10, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Poll: missing libraries to support business

by Hilaire Fernandes

- loading binary code in an existging Pharo installation. It will ease to make very tiny Pharo application. Useful for plateform with limited resources. Hilaire Le 10/08/2010 14:37, Stephan Eggermont a Ã©crit : > Philippe wrote: >> Rather than imagining what problems non-users could have I'd focus on >> what problems existing users have. Instead of building libraries that >> you'll have to maintain forever I'd focus in infrastructure that allows >> users to write the libraries they need themselves. > >> Executive summary: >> - HTTP(S) >> - SqueakDBX >> - VM/Cog/kernel/FFI/Alien > > - making it possible to use all the memory in my system: 64 bit. > > Stephan

Aug. 10, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Loading platform-specific code

by Sean P. DeNigris

Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > ...did you know that Metacello let you > handle platform specific code? > I'm assuming you mean [Squeak|Pharo...] platform - we're talking [Mac|Windows...] Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > Thus, you can define this in the ConfigurationOFfExternalWebBrowser, and > not > depend on a class side initialize. > Yes, it all started when I decided to move the load out of the class>>initialization and into the Config, and I just wanted to poll to see if my thinking was correct. Norbert Hartl wrote: > > I think I don't fully understand what you mean with "lazily load" and > "required for other platforms". But if it is just a choice when to load > something then I would do while having a internet connection ;) > Yes, that is the choice, and that answers the question. Thanks. Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Loading-platform-specific-code-tp2318610p2319751.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Aug. 10, 2010