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Re: [Pharo-project] Which options do we have to persist?

by Guillermo Polito

Wow! that's all great! :D Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!! 2010/8/12 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> > See http://www.seaside.st/documentation/persistence > <http://www.seaside.st/documentation/persistence> > Laurent > > > 2010/8/12 Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito(a)gmail.com> > >> I want to document this a bit and I don't know if there's something >> written somewhere. >> >> I already know SqueakDBX, Magma, Omnibase. Is there something else? >> What about ORMs? Glorp? >> >> If you can provide me also links, metacello configs, and what's the status >> of them for each version of pharo, it shoud be great! :D >> >> Thanks! >> Guille >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Aug. 12, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Which options do we have to persist?

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

I can't argue: RDBs are a pain. I use the "just records" approach at times. For a schema that I really care about, I will sometimes wrap objects around the records, but I have to *really* (I mean **really**) care about what is in there in order to go that much trouble. Both books on Seaside touch on the topic. ________________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Carla F. Griggio [carla.griggio(a)gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 2:50 PM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Which options do we have to persist? I don't know other persistance framework other than the ones already named, but I can't recommend Omnibase either :$ On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name<mailto:norbert@hartl.name>> wrote: On 12.08.2010, at 20:42, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > - Gemstone > - Image segments > - Reference streams > - Postgres driver (and I think also MySQL) > - SIXX > - CouchDB > - GOODS > - ...probably more, e.g., MongoDB, but its alpha > SandstoneDB http://onsmalltalk.com/sandstonedb-simple-activerecord-style-persistence-in… Norbert > I cannot recommend Omnibase. > > Adrian > > On Aug 12, 2010, at 18:56 , Guillermo Polito wrote: > >> I want to document this a bit and I don't know if there's something written >> somewhere. >> >> I already know SqueakDBX, Magma, Omnibase. Is there something else? >> What about ORMs? Glorp? >> >> If you can provide me also links, metacello configs, and what's the status >> of them for each version of pharo, it shoud be great! :D >> >> Thanks! >> Guille >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 12, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Which options do we have to persist?

by laurent laffont

See http://www.seaside.st/documentation/persistence <http://www.seaside.st/documentation/persistence> Laurent 2010/8/12 Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito(a)gmail.com> > I want to document this a bit and I don't know if there's something written > somewhere. > > I already know SqueakDBX, Magma, Omnibase. Is there something else? > What about ORMs? Glorp? > > If you can provide me also links, metacello configs, and what's the status > of them for each version of pharo, it shoud be great! :D > > Thanks! > Guille > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Aug. 12, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Which options do we have to persist?

by Miguel Enrique CobÃ¡ MartÃnez

El jue, 12-08-2010 a las 20:42 +0200, Adrian Lienhard escribiÃ³: > - Gemstone > - Image segments > - Reference streams > - Postgres driver (and I think also MySQL) > - SIXX > - CouchDB > - GOODS > - ...probably more, e.g., MongoDB, but its alpha > > I cannot recommend Omnibase. - Magma - Cassandra: (http://miguel.leugim.com.mx/index.php/2010/03/31/accessing-cassandra-from-p…) > > Adrian > > On Aug 12, 2010, at 18:56 , Guillermo Polito wrote: > > > I want to document this a bit and I don't know if there's something written > > somewhere. > > > > I already know SqueakDBX, Magma, Omnibase. Is there something else? > > What about ORMs? Glorp? > > > > If you can provide me also links, metacello configs, and what's the status > > of them for each version of pharo, it shoud be great! :D > > > > Thanks! > > Guille > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- Miguel CobÃ¡ http://miguel.leugim.com.mx

Aug. 12, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Which options do we have to persist?

by Carla F. Griggio

I don't know other persistance framework other than the ones already named, but I can't recommend Omnibase either :$ On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > > On 12.08.2010, at 20:42, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > > > - Gemstone > > - Image segments > > - Reference streams > > - Postgres driver (and I think also MySQL) > > - SIXX > > - CouchDB > > - GOODS > > - ...probably more, e.g., MongoDB, but its alpha > > > SandstoneDB > > > http://onsmalltalk.com/sandstonedb-simple-activerecord-style-persistence-in… > > Norbert > > > I cannot recommend Omnibase. > > > > Adrian > > > > On Aug 12, 2010, at 18:56 , Guillermo Polito wrote: > > > >> I want to document this a bit and I don't know if there's something > written > >> somewhere. > >> > >> I already know SqueakDBX, Magma, Omnibase. Is there something else? > >> What about ORMs? Glorp? > >> > >> If you can provide me also links, metacello configs, and what's the > status > >> of them for each version of pharo, it shoud be great! :D > >> > >> Thanks! > >> Guille > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Aug. 12, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Contributors page (was little pictures of you)

by laurent laffont

Hi, I've started a Contributors page http://pharo-project.org/about/contributors . Tell me if you like it or not before going further. If you want to be on this page, just send me a photo (120px wide at least) and links, short text you want to put here. Cheers, Laurent Laffont http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/ http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 12:47 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Hi guys > > the pharo web site does not support that yet :) > but I would love to have some pictures of you because this is not that fun > to talk daily with people > when we do not even know their faces so we could start to build a pharo fun > community. > Let me know what you think. > > Stef > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Aug. 12, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Which options do we have to persist?

by GÃ¶ran Krampe

On 08/12/2010 06:56 PM, Guillermo Polito wrote: > I want to document this a bit and I don't know if there's something > written somewhere. > > I already know SqueakDBX, Magma, Omnibase. Is there something else? > What about ORMs? Glorp? Some other stuff off the top of my head from SqueakSource.com: - SCouchDB and CouchDB: Two clients for CouchDB. - TokyoTyrant: My binding for TokyoTyrant, possibly worlds fastest single machine key/value store. See: http://goran.krampe.se/blog/Squeak/TokyoTyrant.rdoc - CassandraClient: A binding for Cassandra using Thrift, don't know more. - SqueakSave: An ORM I think, Steph knows more. - SandstoneDB: Not sure, some kind of lightweight ORM I think. And there are tons more, just check "persistence" tag on SS. Also search the old Squeak Swiki for persistence. One thing I am coding on is a binding to Riak, will put it on SS as soon as it can "do anything". :) regards, GÃ¶ran

Aug. 12, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Which options do we have to persist?

by Norbert Hartl

On 12.08.2010, at 20:42, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > - Gemstone > - Image segments > - Reference streams > - Postgres driver (and I think also MySQL) > - SIXX > - CouchDB > - GOODS > - ...probably more, e.g., MongoDB, but its alpha > SandstoneDB http://onsmalltalk.com/sandstonedb-simple-activerecord-style-persistence-in… Norbert > I cannot recommend Omnibase. > > Adrian > > On Aug 12, 2010, at 18:56 , Guillermo Polito wrote: > >> I want to document this a bit and I don't know if there's something written >> somewhere. >> >> I already know SqueakDBX, Magma, Omnibase. Is there something else? >> What about ORMs? Glorp? >> >> If you can provide me also links, metacello configs, and what's the status >> of them for each version of pharo, it shoud be great! :D >> >> Thanks! >> Guille >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 12, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Which options do we have to persist?

by Adrian Lienhard

- Gemstone - Image segments - Reference streams - Postgres driver (and I think also MySQL) - SIXX - CouchDB - GOODS - ...probably more, e.g., MongoDB, but its alpha I cannot recommend Omnibase. Adrian On Aug 12, 2010, at 18:56 , Guillermo Polito wrote: > I want to document this a bit and I don't know if there's something written > somewhere. > > I already know SqueakDBX, Magma, Omnibase. Is there something else? > What about ORMs? Glorp? > > If you can provide me also links, metacello configs, and what's the status > of them for each version of pharo, it shoud be great! :D > > Thanks! > Guille > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 12, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Inter-image communication

by GÃ¶ran Krampe

On 08/11/2010 10:26 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > rst? > > RemoteSmalltalk? Yes, and there are multiple other packages too. A few other things that might be interesting in "inter image communication": - D-Bus. Bert and the guys made a rather ambitious plugin for libdbus and stuff above it. This is not interesting for Squeak2Squeak, but definitely interesting for cross language stuff. - Message Queues. There are tons of these today, like RabbitMQ, ActiveMQ etc etc. And there is an AMQP protocol implementation on SS, and yesterday I released a first shot at a STOMP implementation too! These message queues implement publish/subscribe models etc so they are different beasts, but IMHO possible more interesting than "straight RPC". - If you go for a transport level that is "non Smalltalk", like say a message queue above, then Tirade (also on SS) could work as a fast way to "serialize messages" through such a transport. When I get STOMP finished I will make a simple demo of that. Also, writing a forking Socket server is really simple in Squeak. The Blackfoot package on SS can act as a really simple and documented example of such a server. Also, if you want to play around with character/byte-streams between Squeak Processes (in one image) then the SharedStreams package is neat - in fact, I think it should be included in the "standard library", and probably also replace SharedQueue. regards, GÃ¶ran

Aug. 12, 2010