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Re: [Pharo-project] Contributors page (was little pictures of you)

by Adrian Lienhard

OK, that's a good argument. So, I'd like to come to a conclusion: - Photos with short summary as prototyped by Laurent - On the main website under "Community" (rather than "About"), listed alphabetically by first name - People are invited to get an entry if they have contributed or if they are in another way involved in the community (e.g., by being an active user) OK? Adrian On Aug 13, 2010, at 22:29 , StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> Yea, that's a good question. I think it's primarily for us. Who else would be interested? Someone taking a technology decision? "Sure, I'm going to use Pharo â these guys look so cute!" ;). Not likely. >> >> So, the Google wiki could be a better place. Unless we want to argue that the website is not only for new people learning about Pharo but also for us to build the community. > > This is nice to see that there are a lot of people around a project. > So this is not the question of cute people this is a question of community so I would put that on the project web site (not the google one). > > Stef > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 14, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Problem with Date today, different in pharo 1.0 and 1.1

by Adrian Lienhard

Does that mean that it is wrong in 1.1? BTW, such changes/bugs are important to know for people who run critical applications. So we should carefully documented these. Just one example that bite us: (Duration seconds: 0.5) asSeconds --> 0, whereas in Squeak 3.9 it returned 0.5. Changes like these can break code in subtle ways... Cheers, Adrian On Aug 13, 2010, at 22:35 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 10:32 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < > stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >> In pharo 1.2 it should be local aware I integrated a fix of sean that made >> it start by default in localtime. >> >> > mmmm that's seem to be the problem :) > > If I know run the same in Pharo 1.2: > > Date today start -> 2010-08-13T00:00:00+02:00 > > the same as 1.0.... > > thanks :) > > mariano > > >> Stef >> >>> Hi folks. >>> >>> In Pharo 1.0 I evaluate "Date today start" i get -> >> 2010-08-13T00:00:00+02:00 >>> >>> and in Pharo 1.1 "Date today start -> 2010-08-13T00:00:00+00:00 >>> >>> so.... in 1.0 I have at the end a +02:00 and in Pharo 1.1 I have >> +00:00 >>> >>> which one is correct? are we aware of this change? does someone know the >> issue number of this? >>> >>> thanks >>> >>> mariano >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 14, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] binding

by Igor Stasenko

On 13 August 2010 17:43, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Hi > > Class>>binding > Â Â Â Â ^ Smalltalk globals associationAt: name ifAbsent: [ nil -> self ] > > and it should be > > Class>>binding > Â Â Â Â ^ self environment associationAt: name ifAbsent: [ nil -> self ] > +1 > since the environment of the class could be another systemDictionary. > > Class>>environment > > Â Â Â Â environment == nil ifTrue: [^ super environment]. > Â Â Â Â ^ environment > > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2799 > > Stef > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

Aug. 14, 2010

[Pharo-project] Fwd: File out with syntax highlighting

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Begin forwarded message: > From: Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> > Date: August 14, 2010 9:27:25 AM GMT+02:00 > To: StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > Cc: Wilhelm K Schwab <BSchwab(a)anest.ufl.edu> > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] File out with syntax highlighting > > On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 9:05 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse > <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>> damien cassou did a package exporter in latex, probably html based on visitor some years ago >>> send me an email > > http://www.squeaksource.com/SmallAutoDoc.html. > > Please commit any change you do to this code to this repository :-) > > > Bye > > > -- > Damien Cassou > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them > popular by not having them." James Iry

Aug. 14, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] File out with syntax highlighting

by Nick Ager

Hi Bill, > I did a little more digging toward my goal of exporting a given package's > code in syntax-highlighted form. Another option might be to use an Javascript syntax highlighter. http://www.oriontransfer.co.nz/software/jquery-syntax/examples/index (says it supports Smalltalk) Nick

Aug. 14, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] File out with syntax highlighting

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

Stef, Thanks for the scouting report. I would be very interested in Damien's package exporter. Thanks! Bill ________________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of StÃ©phane Ducasse [stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr] Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 4:34 PM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] File out with syntax highlighting On Aug 13, 2010, at 5:39 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > Hello all, > > I did a little more digging toward my goal of exporting a given package's code in syntax-highlighted form. Solutions suggested below include Squeak's copy-to-html and Shout-Pier. The copy code was removed from Pharo. It was bad. > Are the pieces still more or less available, or did a lot of code get tossed? believe me you do not want to use that > I envision a small export filter that takes a package name and writes html for every method that belongs in the package, so I don't care about the menu/command integration, only about how practical it would be to use the pieces in the image to build the filter. damien cassou did a package exporter in latex, probably html based on visitor some years ago send me an email > > The other option is Pier-Shout. Where does that live? It is not my first choice, but if nothing else, it might fill in the missing pieces allowing me to build what I want. quite well. All the seaside book uses it. > > Bill > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr/msg21418.ht… > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 13, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Usable Pharo/Squeak packages

by Guillermo Polito

A few days ago I started to write something like that in the collaborActive Book: http://book.pharo-project.org/book/table-of-contents/PharoTools On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 5:30 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > wrote: > francois excellent initiative! > I want configurationOf for them :D. > Now I resent your mail to create a new thread. > > Stef > > Begin forwarded message: > > > From: Francois Stephany <tulipe.moutarde(a)gmail.com> > > Date: August 13, 2010 3:58:55 PM GMT+02:00 > > To: pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Contributors page (was little pictures of > you) > > Reply-To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > > > I've started to work on a project to list usable Pharo/Squeak packages. > > Kind of http://ruby-toolbox.com/ for open source smalltalks. > > > > The basic idea is to have a list of packages with a description and how > to load them (basically via Metacello configuration). People could comment > packages to let other know if it works for them in their favorite dialect. > If a convention toward package management with Metacello is reached we could > imagine that data is automatically fetched from Metacello description. But > lets start simple first... > > > > Crawling Squeaksource to find libraries is a not a delicious experience > (at least for me). > > > > It's probably premature to talk about this project here now (especially > given my time constraints these days) but this thread motivates me to give > it a serious try. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Francois > > > > > > > > -- > > francois.stephany(a)agilitic.com > > http://www.agilitic.com > > +32 (0)484/580.322 > > > > > > On 13/08/10 15:27, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > >> Yea, that's a good question. I think it's primarily for us. Who else > would be interested? Someone taking a technology decision? "Sure, I'm going > to use Pharo â these guys look so cute!" ;). Not likely. > >> > >> So, the Google wiki could be a better place. Unless we want to argue > that the website is not only for new people learning about Pharo but also > for us to build the community. > >> > >> Adrian > >> > >> On Aug 13, 2010, at 14:35 , Carla F. Griggio wrote: > >> > >>> Hmmm maybe this is turning into something different than the original > >>> intention? (or at least what it seemed the original intention to me) > >>> > >>> I think that 'having a page' is making this a little more formal than > it > >>> first looked like :P Because it's not the same if its a page in the > website > >>> that can be used as a reference to people visiting the website (people > other > >>> than us), than something 'internal' only used to know our faces. I > think > >>> that's why you ended up thinking about 'who's in and who's out'. > >>> > >>> So why do you want this on the pharo-project.org website? Do you > really want > >>> it to be some reference to the public of that website, or just > something > >>> informal for us to use? > >>> > >>> On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 9:13 AM, Adrian Lienhard<adi(a)netstyle.ch> > wrote: > >>> > >>>> > >>>> On Aug 13, 2010, at 14:01 , Norbert Hartl wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On 13.08.2010, at 07:58, laurent laffont wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 4:59 AM, Serge Stinckwich< > >>>> serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>> Nice ! But you know i'm not a big contributor to Pharo. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The page is "Contributors", not "Big contributors" :) I wonder if I > >>>> should change it to "Contributors& Users". Users are really important > >>>> because it shows Pharo is used in real world. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> One of the first question when I show Pharo is: who use it ? It > seems > >>>> people don't care if it's good or not. Knowing that there's users > bring > >>>> confidence. > >>>>>> > >>>>> So, who is supposed on this page? :) I'm also no big contributor if > one > >>>> at all. > >>>> > >>>> I would define it like this: everyone who is part of the Pharo > community in > >>>> that he contributes or is engaged in discussions. > >>>> > >>>> So if there is somebody who hasn't contributed but who we know from > the > >>>> mailing list or conferences, its also nice to have him on the page. On > the > >>>> other hand, if it is somebody who we don't know because he doesn't > >>>> participate, there's no point in adding him. > >>>> > >>>> Adrian > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Norbert > >>>>> > >>>>>> Laurent > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Maybe for people who have a Gravatar account, you can use their > >>>>>> pictures, so people have control on their own pictures. > >>>>>> Regards > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 2010/8/13 laurent laffont<laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com>: > >>>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>>> I've started a Contributors > >>>>>>> page http://pharo-project.org/about/contributors. > >>>>>>> Tell me if you like it or not before going further. > >>>>>>> If you want to be on this page, just send me a photo (120px wide at > >>>> least) > >>>>>>> and links, short text you want to put here. > >>>>>>> Cheers, > >>>>>>> Laurent Laffont > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/ > >>>>>>> http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 12:47 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse > >>>>>>> <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Hi guys > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> the pharo web site does not support that yet :) > >>>>>>>> but I would love to have some pictures of you because this is not > that > >>>> fun > >>>>>>>> to talk daily with people > >>>>>>>> when we do not even know their faces so we could start to build a > >>>> pharo > >>>>>>>> fun community. > >>>>>>>> Let me know what you think. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Stef > >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>>>>>>> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>>>>>> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> Serge Stinckwich > >>>>>> UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam > >>>>>> Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk > >>>>>> http://doesnotunderstand.org/ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Aug. 13, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Problem with Date today, different in pharo 1.0 and 1.1

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 10:32 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > In pharo 1.2 it should be local aware I integrated a fix of sean that made > it start by default in localtime. > > mmmm that's seem to be the problem :) If I know run the same in Pharo 1.2: Date today start -> 2010-08-13T00:00:00+02:00 the same as 1.0.... thanks :) mariano > Stef > > > Hi folks. > > > > In Pharo 1.0 I evaluate "Date today start" i get -> > 2010-08-13T00:00:00+02:00 > > > > and in Pharo 1.1 "Date today start -> 2010-08-13T00:00:00+00:00 > > > > so.... in 1.0 I have at the end a +02:00 and in Pharo 1.1 I have > +00:00 > > > > which one is correct? are we aware of this change? does someone know the > issue number of this? > > > > thanks > > > > mariano > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Aug. 13, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] File out with syntax highlighting

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Aug 13, 2010, at 5:39 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > Hello all, > > I did a little more digging toward my goal of exporting a given package's code in syntax-highlighted form. Solutions suggested below include Squeak's copy-to-html and Shout-Pier. The copy code was removed from Pharo. It was bad. > Are the pieces still more or less available, or did a lot of code get tossed? believe me you do not want to use that > I envision a small export filter that takes a package name and writes html for every method that belongs in the package, so I don't care about the menu/command integration, only about how practical it would be to use the pieces in the image to build the filter. damien cassou did a package exporter in latex, probably html based on visitor some years ago send me an email > > The other option is Pier-Shout. Where does that live? It is not my first choice, but if nothing else, it might fill in the missing pieces allowing me to build what I want. quite well. All the seaside book uses it. > > Bill > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr/msg21418.ht… > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 13, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Problem with Date today, different in pharo 1.0 and 1.1

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

In pharo 1.2 it should be local aware I integrated a fix of sean that made it start by default in localtime. Stef > Hi folks. > > In Pharo 1.0 I evaluate "Date today start" i get -> 2010-08-13T00:00:00+02:00 > > and in Pharo 1.1 "Date today start -> 2010-08-13T00:00:00+00:00 > > so.... in 1.0 I have at the end a +02:00 and in Pharo 1.1 I have +00:00 > > which one is correct? are we aware of this change? does someone know the issue number of this? > > thanks > > mariano > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 13, 2010