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Re: [Pharo-project] Contributors page (was little pictures of you)

by Marcus Denker

On Aug 14, 2010, at 4:34 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > Very nice pictures. > I wonder if i deserve to be in this list. Yes! But if you feel bad about it, maybe you can contribute more in the future to make up for it ;-) e.g. looking at the bug tracker once in a while... just 380 open entries. Especially the trivialities are not much work but quite relaxing to work on. And it's amazing how different a system looks after just fixing 1000 trivial "unimportant" small things. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

Aug. 15, 2010

[Pharo-project] [update 1.2] #12090

by Marcus Denker

12090 ----- Issue 2656: Fix MessageNames for references to non-selectors. Issue 2674: Slider should be moved to Morphic-Widgets Issue 2801: Add standard deviation to Collections math methods Issue 2572: asCamelCase -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

Aug. 15, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Usable Pharo/Squeak packages

by Guillermo Polito

I've just improved it a little more :). http://book.pharo-project.org/book/table-of-contents/PharoTools/?_s=OlHcsQP… It's not such a great thing yet. It needs a lot of work like: - review the classification I made :P. - remove from the list the items we don't like, don't care or don't want in pharo. - adding more packages. I would like to improve the communications tools list with soap ones if any, the XMLRPC gsoc project, and inter image communication tools... I believe it's important to introduce pharo in commercial projects. - adding better explanations of each tool? - specifying the status of each tool. Is it stable on pharo 1.0? and in 1.1? Which is the metacello config for 1.0 and 1.1? - adding more configurationOf I didn't found to the book - creating more configurationOf for packages that lack of them. - review what I did - review what I did - review what I did - review what I did Good night! hehe Guille On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito(a)gmail.com > wrote: > A few days ago I started to write something like that in the collaborActive > Book: > > http://book.pharo-project.org/book/table-of-contents/PharoTools > > > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 5:30 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < > stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >> francois excellent initiative! >> I want configurationOf for them :D. >> Now I resent your mail to create a new thread. >> >> Stef >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> > From: Francois Stephany <tulipe.moutarde(a)gmail.com> >> > Date: August 13, 2010 3:58:55 PM GMT+02:00 >> > To: pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Contributors page (was little pictures of >> you) >> > Reply-To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > >> > I've started to work on a project to list usable Pharo/Squeak packages. >> > Kind of http://ruby-toolbox.com/ for open source smalltalks. >> > >> > The basic idea is to have a list of packages with a description and how >> to load them (basically via Metacello configuration). People could comment >> packages to let other know if it works for them in their favorite dialect. >> If a convention toward package management with Metacello is reached we could >> imagine that data is automatically fetched from Metacello description. But >> lets start simple first... >> > >> > Crawling Squeaksource to find libraries is a not a delicious experience >> (at least for me). >> > >> > It's probably premature to talk about this project here now (especially >> given my time constraints these days) but this thread motivates me to give >> it a serious try. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > >> > Francois >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > francois.stephany(a)agilitic.com >> > http://www.agilitic.com >> > +32 (0)484/580.322 >> > >> > >> > On 13/08/10 15:27, Adrian Lienhard wrote: >> >> Yea, that's a good question. I think it's primarily for us. Who else >> would be interested? Someone taking a technology decision? "Sure, I'm going >> to use Pharo â these guys look so cute!" ;). Not likely. >> >> >> >> So, the Google wiki could be a better place. Unless we want to argue >> that the website is not only for new people learning about Pharo but also >> for us to build the community. >> >> >> >> Adrian >> >> >> >> On Aug 13, 2010, at 14:35 , Carla F. Griggio wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hmmm maybe this is turning into something different than the original >> >>> intention? (or at least what it seemed the original intention to me) >> >>> >> >>> I think that 'having a page' is making this a little more formal than >> it >> >>> first looked like :P Because it's not the same if its a page in the >> website >> >>> that can be used as a reference to people visiting the website (people >> other >> >>> than us), than something 'internal' only used to know our faces. I >> think >> >>> that's why you ended up thinking about 'who's in and who's out'. >> >>> >> >>> So why do you want this on the pharo-project.org website? Do you >> really want >> >>> it to be some reference to the public of that website, or just >> something >> >>> informal for us to use? >> >>> >> >>> On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 9:13 AM, Adrian Lienhard<adi(a)netstyle.ch> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> On Aug 13, 2010, at 14:01 , Norbert Hartl wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On 13.08.2010, at 07:58, laurent laffont wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 4:59 AM, Serge Stinckwich< >> >>>> serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>>> Nice ! But you know i'm not a big contributor to Pharo. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> The page is "Contributors", not "Big contributors" :) I wonder if I >> >>>> should change it to "Contributors& Users". Users are really >> important >> >>>> because it shows Pharo is used in real world. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> One of the first question when I show Pharo is: who use it ? It >> seems >> >>>> people don't care if it's good or not. Knowing that there's users >> bring >> >>>> confidence. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>> So, who is supposed on this page? :) I'm also no big contributor if >> one >> >>>> at all. >> >>>> >> >>>> I would define it like this: everyone who is part of the Pharo >> community in >> >>>> that he contributes or is engaged in discussions. >> >>>> >> >>>> So if there is somebody who hasn't contributed but who we know from >> the >> >>>> mailing list or conferences, its also nice to have him on the page. >> On the >> >>>> other hand, if it is somebody who we don't know because he doesn't >> >>>> participate, there's no point in adding him. >> >>>> >> >>>> Adrian >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Norbert >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> Laurent >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Maybe for people who have a Gravatar account, you can use their >> >>>>>> pictures, so people have control on their own pictures. >> >>>>>> Regards >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> 2010/8/13 laurent laffont<laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com>: >> >>>>>>> Hi, >> >>>>>>> I've started a Contributors >> >>>>>>> page http://pharo-project.org/about/contributors. >> >>>>>>> Tell me if you like it or not before going further. >> >>>>>>> If you want to be on this page, just send me a photo (120px wide >> at >> >>>> least) >> >>>>>>> and links, short text you want to put here. >> >>>>>>> Cheers, >> >>>>>>> Laurent Laffont >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/ >> >>>>>>> http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 12:47 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse >> >>>>>>> <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Hi guys >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> the pharo web site does not support that yet :) >> >>>>>>>> but I would love to have some pictures of you because this is not >> that >> >>>> fun >> >>>>>>>> to talk daily with people >> >>>>>>>> when we do not even know their faces so we could start to build a >> >>>> pharo >> >>>>>>>> fun community. >> >>>>>>>> Let me know what you think. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Stef >> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >> >>>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> >>>>>>>> >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >> >>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> >>>>>>> >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> -- >> >>>>>> Serge Stinckwich >> >>>>>> UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam >> >>>>>> Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk >> >>>>>> http://doesnotunderstand.org/ >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >> >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> >>>>>> >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >> >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> >>>>>> >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >>>>> >> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >> >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >> >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >>>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Pharo-project mailing list >> >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Pharo-project mailing list >> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > >

Aug. 15, 2010

[Pharo-project] Beyond animated gif?

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

Hello all, I have a growing number of annotated images and thought it would be nice to make a movie out of them. Following the example of an animated gif, I had a result a LOT faster than I expected, but the quality is really poor. Maybe setting a palette would help, but I'm wondering if there are other/better ways? Extra credit goes to any solution that can be driven from within Pharo or at least w/o littering my drive with lots of images, but I'll take what I can get if the quality is right. images2mpg has been mentioned in a few places, but it is playing hard to get. Bill

Aug. 14, 2010

[Pharo-project] [update 1.2] #12089

by Marcus Denker

12089 ----- Issue 2798: Replace Set class>>rehashAllSets with HashedCollection class>>rehashAllSubInstances Issue 2796: Preference cleanup 1: remove 50 unsent methods Issue 2795: Remove some unused variables Issue 2789: Nuke TestRunner>>hasHistory Issue 2800: remove MethodContext>>#freeNames Issue 2785: File list menu should have grouped items -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

Aug. 14, 2010

[Pharo-project] Dynamic linking - again

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

Hello all, Browser environments and associated scoped browsers have given me a reasonable tool to review some code I hope to release soon. It contains some cruft that I am moving to reconsider or shred at some time in the future, and a few things that would be useful if only they worked. A good example of the latter is my misadventures with dynamic linking. Trying to get libdl.so to load has been an exercise in frustration. I understand some of the reasoning behind naming and searching for libraries as it is now done. While I ordinarily quickly and loudly criticize Squeak for silent failures (they seldom do anyone any favors; I prefer my bad news in real time), loading a library might not be the best time to raise an error as it might hobble startup. However, there should be a way to tell why something didn't load on startup, or at least to trace why it won't load "now." So far, I don't see that. I have gotten just far enough away from my most recent hassles with this to forget where I built the hacked vm. It might be sitting on my laptop. I'm going to shelve it for now, but the hack I have in place is pretty sad, and there is a LOT of room to grow for the VM to tell the user what it is doing when (failing at) loading modules. Bill

Aug. 14, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Contributors page (was little pictures of you)

by laurent laffont

On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Very nice pictures. > I wonder if i deserve to be in this list. > I think so. Laurent > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Aug. 14, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Inter-image communication

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com>wrote: > > > Noury Bouraqadi-2 wrote: > > > > Yes. But, we need an appropriate set of tools. We (Douai's team) > developed > > a few tools a while ago as part of the UbiquiTalk project. We had a > > remote-workspace working quite fine. > > > > Is this code available? I guess http://www.squeaksource.com/UbiquiTalk > Remote workspace was the first thing I noticed > missing from my rST experience. > > Thanks, > Sean > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Inter-image-communication-tp2320723p2325234.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Aug. 14, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] SqueakCompatibility

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com>wrote: > > What is SqueakCompatibility? It's listed as a non-core package on > http://book.pharo-project.org/book/table-of-contents/PharoTools, and the > only reference I found in the mailing lists was a slice for Menu > Registries. > Is this one the same? The name sounds like it may be intended as a more > general compatibility layer. > > I asked the same. I remember someone (maybe Stef) told me "Mariano, could you please add the package SqueakCompatibility?". But I have no idea what it is. Cheers Mariano > Thanks. > Sean > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/SqueakCompatibility-tp2325190p2325190.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >

Aug. 14, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Help - Understanding OBSystemBrowser

by GermÃ¡n Leiva

No, I'll do that now. Thanks =) 2010/8/14 Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com> > Did you see <http://bergel.eu/download/papers/Berg08cOmnibrowser.pdf>? > > 2010/8/14 GermÃ¡n Leiva <leivagerman(a)gmail.com> > > > > Hi everyone, > > I'm trying to add one column in the navigationPanel (I'll extend > OBSystemBrowser, just for the examples lets say OBMySystemBrowser) > > The current behaviour is (from left to right) > > > > > > || Column A || Column B || Column C || Column D || > > || Categories in Smalltalk globals || Classes in the selected category || > Method categories of the selected class || Methods in the selected method > category || > > I want to add a column in the left (the column that has Trulala1) , and > maintain the behaviour of the columns 2 to 5 > > || Column 1 || Column 2 || Column 3 || Column 4 || Column 5 || > > || Environments in Smalltalk || Column A (Categories in the selected > environment) || Column B || Column C || Column D || > > > > > > The question is, where I define the order and the behaviour of the > columns? > > > > I think I need to create a new node > in OBMySystemBrowser >> defaultRootNode and in OBMySystemBrowser >> > defaultMetaNode. > > But in some point an OBMetagraphBuilder set up the root node and I'm lost > there because the only "constructor" that has is > #on:class:comment:metaclass:. > > The order and the dependencies of the columns are implicit in the > structure of the node? > > Please enlight me :$ > > Cheers > > -- > > GermÃ¡n Leiva > > LeivaGerman(a)gmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > -- > Lukas Renggli > www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- GermÃ¡n Leiva LeivaGerman(a)gmail.com

Aug. 14, 2010