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Re: [Pharo-project] Working on Pharo 1.2

by Marcus Denker

On Aug 12, 2010, at 6:23 PM, James Foster wrote: > > > I've been to http://hudson.lukas-renggli.ch/job/Pharo/, and see that there is a build of 1.1 on July 17, and another build on July 20, but that seems to be not exactly current, and does not describe itself as 1.2. > Lukas' builds are not the official ones... we will set up a dedecated Hudson, but mostly this is on hold because whole france is on holidays and I can't progress with any server issues without the admins. > Where do I go to get the current (unstable) 1.2 build? https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/?group_id=1299, at the end under PharoCore1.2. Download the latest, then load updates. > What do I need to do to contribute (beyond adding to the PharoInbox)? Send mail? > The bug tracker is the central thing. http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list add an issue there. Add either a changeset (for the old style smalltalker) or commit a Slice to the inbox and put the name of the slice there. Yes, all that is not yet perfect. But we are improving, slowly, stadily and unstoppable.... Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

Aug. 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Working on Pharo 1.2

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Aug 16, 2010, at 5:34 AM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > > Changed world menu to show menu item in stable release images and show a > dialog explaining where to get the bleeding edge. Behavior in trunk images > is unchanged. > > Issue: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2810 > Fix in PharoInbox: > SLICE-Issue-2810-StableReleasesExplainUpdating-SeanDeNigris.1 > > Sean > > p.s. I wanted to have WorldState class>>isBleedingEdgeImage be > SmalltalkImage>>isBleedingEdge - would that have been okay/better? Yes. I think that this is better to put it in SmalltalkImage. Stef > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Working-on-Pharo-1-2-tp2322972p2326372.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Working on Pharo 1.2

by Igor Stasenko

I think that the scope of this issue can be extended. I have a tons of different images in different directories lying everywhere on my box, and its really easy to get lost in it, especially, when you don't touching some things couple of months. So, it would be cool to get somehow a comprehensive info about image from image itself. The image could contain some meta-information, which can be shown to user by request, including: - release info: - version, date, author , branch - changes info: - delta packages, delta changesets & their authour(s) , all relative to release info - and , of course, an easy way to update an image from public sources. I want it to be easy to see, if given image contains some userful pieces of code (of mine), or it was just a cleanly released image, just downloaded to test & play with. On 16 August 2010 06:34, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: > > Changed world menu to show menu item in stable release images and show a > dialog explaining where to get the bleeding edge. Â Behavior in trunk images > is unchanged. > > Issue: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2810 > Fix in PharoInbox: > SLICE-Issue-2810-StableReleasesExplainUpdating-SeanDeNigris.1 > > Sean > > p.s. I wanted to have WorldState class>>isBleedingEdgeImage be > SmalltalkImage>>isBleedingEdge - would that have been okay/better? > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Working-on-Pharo-1-2-tp2322972p2326372.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

Aug. 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [SPAM] [Pharo-users] Pharocasts: Display Picasa photos

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

Hey Laurent, Great, very instructive, good example, nice programming style!! Sven On 15 Aug 2010, at 23:00, laurent laffont wrote: > Learn: > - how to get data from an URL > - parse XML documents > - build a GUI to display photos with Polymorph > - how to prototype quickly with debugger and inspector > > http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/2010/08/see-how-to-get-data-from-url-parse-x… > > Cheers, > > Laurent Laffont > > http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/ > http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users

Aug. 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Pharocasts: Display Picasa photos

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

+1 Stef On Aug 16, 2010, at 12:14 AM, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: > Excellent! > > 2010/8/15 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com>: >> Learn: >> - how to get data from an URL >> - parse XML documents >> - build a GUI to display photos with Polymorph >> - how to prototype quickly with debugger and inspector >> http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/2010/08/see-how-to-get-data-from-url-parse-x… >> Cheers, >> Laurent Laffont >> >> http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/ >> http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users

Aug. 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] What is the situation regarding iPhone

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

The next question is the scratch viewer representing anything that you can generalize. Apple is getting worse than Microsoft. Stef On Aug 16, 2010, at 10:39 AM, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: > Hello John, > > Please keep up informed. > > What is the situation for the Scratch viewer, is it still in the AppleSotre? > > > Thanks > > Hilaire > > Le 15/08/2010 19:25, John M McIntosh a Ã©crit : >> Morning Hilaire. >> >> I had discussions with middle level Apple management on Aug 5th. I am told decisions should be forthcoming: "the next few weeks" >> >> On 2010-08-15, at 3:33 AM, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: >> >>> Can we legally distribute through the apple store Pharo Smalltalk >>> applications? >>> >>> Hilaire >>> -- >>> Dr. Geo, to discover geometry on Linux, Windows, MAC and XO >>> http://community.ofset.org/index.php/DrGeo >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> -- >> =========================================================================== >> John M. McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> Twitter: squeaker68882 >> Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com >> =========================================================================== >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > -- > Dr. Geo, to discover geometry on Linux, Windows, MAC and XO > http://community.ofset.org/index.php/DrGeo > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Where I commit changes to AutomaticMethodCategorizer for example?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Aug 15, 2010, at 10:39 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 9:14 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > 1 - ask him > May be he is not even doing smalltalk anymore. > 2- What is the license of the code > > OK. I will. > > 3- fork. > PharoCategorizer > Pharoxxxx > > > I am starting to be tired about having XXXForPharo or PharoXXX. It seems to be evident that at some point we need a www.pharosource.com for those Pharo specific projects/forks. yes but what can we pragmatically do? > > Thanks! > > Mariano > > Stef > > On Aug 15, 2010, at 8:52 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > Hi. I am trying to work in the Pharo 1.2 but I an finding different problems. For example, AutomaticMethodCategorizer uses Preferences, and I need to update it. > > The project has global read in squeaksource, thus I cannot commit. In addition, I don't think Diego will let me commit that as I will break the code for squeak (ok...I can add Smalltalk at:Preferences ifTrue...but that's crap). > > > > So....what do I do ? I commit that package in Pharo repository? PharoNonCore? > > > > thanks > > > > Mariano > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Where I commit changes to AutomaticMethodCategorizer for example?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Aug 16, 2010, at 10:26 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 9:14 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > 1 - ask him > May be he is not even doing smalltalk anymore. > 2- What is the license of the code > > > Ok. Good news. I've contacted him in private and he told me it was funny because exactly the same day (yesterday) he was thinking to send an email to the pharo mailing list to see if someone could continue the project. He put the repo as gloabl read / write (it was only read before) and he put the license as MIT (there was no license before). > > Now...the situation is this. You have a method that answers the defalt rules. However, you could add your own rules for the categorizacion. That was done in a way where you put in a preferences which class and which selector to use. Then, that method was invoke and you got the rules. We don't have Preferences anymore, so we have 2 options: > > 1) Remove the references to Preferences and have no way to change the method that it is execute to define rules...and thus, for the moment we use the default rules Remove the preferences anyway. > 2) Create settings for that > > I would do 1) for now, because it is easy (I have already done it), and I am not sure that this way of calling a method is the best approach to make it extensible. I don't have the time right now, but maybe in a future someone can modify it and make it easily extensible. Maybe using pragmas, Announcements, or some kind of registration pattern. > > what do you think? > > > 3- fork. > PharoCategorizer > Pharoxxxx > > Stef > > On Aug 15, 2010, at 8:52 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > Hi. I am trying to work in the Pharo 1.2 but I an finding different problems. For example, AutomaticMethodCategorizer uses Preferences, and I need to update it. > > The project has global read in squeaksource, thus I cannot commit. In addition, I don't think Diego will let me commit that as I will break the code for squeak (ok...I can add Smalltalk at:Preferences ifTrue...but that's crap). > > > > So....what do I do ? I commit that package in Pharo repository? PharoNonCore? > > > > thanks > > > > Mariano > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] What is the situation regarding iPhone

by Hilaire Fernandes

Hello John, Please keep up informed. What is the situation for the Scratch viewer, is it still in the AppleSotre? Thanks Hilaire Le 15/08/2010 19:25, John M McIntosh a Ã©crit : > Morning Hilaire. > > I had discussions with middle level Apple management on Aug 5th. I am told decisions should be forthcoming: "the next few weeks" > > On 2010-08-15, at 3:33 AM, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: > >> Can we legally distribute through the apple store Pharo Smalltalk >> applications? >> >> Hilaire >> -- >> Dr. Geo, to discover geometry on Linux, Windows, MAC and XO >> http://community.ofset.org/index.php/DrGeo >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > =========================================================================== > John M. McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> Twitter: squeaker68882 > Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com > =========================================================================== > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- Dr. Geo, to discover geometry on Linux, Windows, MAC and XO http://community.ofset.org/index.php/DrGeo

Aug. 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Where I commit changes to AutomaticMethodCategorizer for example?

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 9:14 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > wrote: > 1 - ask him > May be he is not even doing smalltalk anymore. > 2- What is the license of the code > Ok. Good news. I've contacted him in private and he told me it was funny because exactly the same day (yesterday) he was thinking to send an email to the pharo mailing list to see if someone could continue the project. He put the repo as gloabl read / write (it was only read before) and he put the license as MIT (there was no license before). Now...the situation is this. You have a method that answers the defalt rules. However, you could add your own rules for the categorizacion. That was done in a way where you put in a preferences which class and which selector to use. Then, that method was invoke and you got the rules. We don't have Preferences anymore, so we have 2 options: 1) Remove the references to Preferences and have no way to change the method that it is execute to define rules...and thus, for the moment we use the default rules 2) Create settings for that I would do 1) for now, because it is easy (I have already done it), and I am not sure that this way of calling a method is the best approach to make it extensible. I don't have the time right now, but maybe in a future someone can modify it and make it easily extensible. Maybe using pragmas, Announcements, or some kind of registration pattern. what do you think? > 3- fork. > PharoCategorizer > Pharoxxxx > > Stef > > On Aug 15, 2010, at 8:52 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > Hi. I am trying to work in the Pharo 1.2 but I an finding different > problems. For example, AutomaticMethodCategorizer uses Preferences, and I > need to update it. > > The project has global read in squeaksource, thus I cannot commit. In > addition, I don't think Diego will let me commit that as I will break the > code for squeak (ok...I can add Smalltalk at:Preferences ifTrue...but > that's crap). > > > > So....what do I do ? I commit that package in Pharo repository? > PharoNonCore? > > > > thanks > > > > Mariano > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Aug. 16, 2010