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Re: [Pharo-project] CogVM binaries!!! {WAS} Re: [squeak-dev] Re: CogVM on the Mac

by Henrik Johansen

On Aug 19, 2010, at 6:12 36PM, Eliot Miranda wrote: > > > 2010/8/19 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> > > > 2) Do these binaries include the fixes from henrik to avoid the crash tha happens sometime? > > Yes. They're built from the most up-to-date version of the Cog sources. Mmmh, if you don't want to update the folder name to reflect the actual svn version, would changing the !README.txt at least be possible? ;) Cheers, Henry

Aug. 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Can't file in *.st exports

by Henrik Johansen

There are three senders of #clone in the 1.1 One-click image, all part of the sound package. (I've uploaded a new version to PharoSound where this is fixed, and #copy occurences replaced with #postCopy implementations instead). ArrayedCollection>>mergeSortFrom:to:by uses shallowCopy. I'd check what code you've imported which has changed that. Cheers, Henry On Aug 19, 2010, at 6:49 43PM, Peter Hugosson-Miller wrote: > Better :-) The attached image is of a stack trace that shows where the error occurs, which is certainly helpful! > > During the execution of ArrayedCollection>>#mergeSortFrom:to:by:, the message #clone is sent to an instance of Array, and the message is not understood, which means that there is no method called #clone in the Array class or any of its superclasses. > > So the question is, why is the message being sent, when no corresponding method exists on the receiver? One possibility is that there is an error in the method where the #clone message is being sent, or that the missing method just hasn't been filed in yet. The next step would probably be to look at the file being filed in, and see what methods it contains. Perhaps it depends on another file that needs to be filed in first? > > -- > Cheers, > Peter > > 2010/8/19 Robert Sirois <watchlala(a)hotmail.com> > No problem, Pharo's driving me crazy today hehe. > > It says: "*** system error handling failed ***" (see attached image). > > Thanks, > RS > > > From: oldmanlink(a)gmail.com > > Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 17:33:03 +0200 > > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Can't file in *.st exports > > > > > Pardon me for being blunt, Robert, but we're going to need a bit more to go on than "some sort of weird system error". > > > > Could you please attach a file that you tried to file in, and maybe a screenshot of the error? It would certainly increase your chances of getting some help ;-) > > > > -- > > Cheers, > > Peter. > > > > On 19 aug 2010, at 17:11, Robert Sirois <watchlala(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > There's some sort of weird system error when I try to fileIn a *.st file (like a class method). It asks me to "CR" for a debugger or any key to restart. I ended up having to force quit. > > > > > > This is in the latest 1.1 one-click. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > RS > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Pharo-project mailing list > > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Can't file in *.st exports

by Nicolas Cellier

clone has been removed from Pharo 1.1 in favour of shallowCopy (they behave the same). The removal was a bit zealous, and did not follow any deprecation policy. So it makes it a bit harder to load some packages. But I think lessons are learned: Steph proposed to keep deprecated methods across 2 minor releases. Nicolas 2010/8/19 Peter Hugosson-Miller <oldmanlink(a)gmail.com>: > Better :-) The attached image is of a stack trace that shows where the error > occurs, which is certainly helpful! > > During the execution of ArrayedCollection>>#mergeSortFrom:to:by:, the > message #clone is sent to an instance of Array, and the message is not > understood, which means that there is no method called #clone in the Array > class or any of its superclasses. > > So the question is, why is the message being sent, when no corresponding > method exists on the receiver? One possibility is that there is an error in > the method where the #clone message is being sent, or that the missing > method just hasn't been filed in yet. The next step would probably be to > look at the file being filed in, and see what methods it contains. Perhaps > it depends on another file that needs to be filed in first? > > -- > Cheers, > Peter > > 2010/8/19 Robert Sirois <watchlala(a)hotmail.com> >> >> No problem, Pharo's driving me crazy today hehe. >> It says: "*** system error handling failed ***" (see attached image). >> Thanks, >> RS >> > From: oldmanlink(a)gmail.com >> > Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 17:33:03 +0200 >> > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Can't file in *.st exports >> > >> > Pardon me for being blunt, Robert, but we're going to need a bit more to >> > go on than "some sort of weird system error". >> > >> > Could you please attach a file that you tried to file in, and maybe a >> > screenshot of the error? It would certainly increase your chances of getting >> > some help ;-) >> > >> > -- >> > Cheers, >> > Peter. >> > >> > On 19 aug 2010, at 17:11, Robert Sirois <watchlala(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > > There's some sort of weird system error when I try to fileIn a *.st >> > > file (like a class method). It asks me to "CR" for a debugger or any key to >> > > restart. I ended up having to force quit. >> > > >> > > This is in the latest 1.1 one-click. >> > > >> > > Thanks, >> > > RS >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Pharo-project mailing list >> > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Pharo-project mailing list >> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Aug. 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Probably a bug

by Sean P. DeNigris

GÃ¶ran Krampe wrote: > > Perhaps Sean stumbled over this too with Todd's HTML parser. > I just made some basic syntax fixes and removed underscore assignments. I never executed anything (except class-side initialization)! Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Probably-a-bug-tp2331029p2331589.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Aug. 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Wiki spam experience

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

Any wiki. If you want something more specific, does our Pharo site wiki remain unscarred because we control who can edit it, or is there something to stop me from doing bad things to it if I were so inclined? I am asking on behalf of somone who has had problems with a wider audience. ________________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Mariano Martinez Peck [marianopeck(a)gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 11:55 AM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Wiki spam experience ehh? what are you talking about? which wiki? On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu<mailto:bschwab@anest.ufl.edu>> wrote: Hello all, Are there any tricks to running a wiki and not ending up a directory of Nigerian ecomomic scams and pornography? Is moderation the only way to do it, or can it be more automatic? Bill _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Can't file in *.st exports

by Peter Hugosson-Miller

Better :-) The attached image is of a stack trace that shows where the error occurs, which is certainly helpful! During the execution of ArrayedCollection>>#mergeSortFrom:to:by:, the message #clone is sent to an instance of Array, and the message is not understood, which means that there is no method called #clone in the Array class or any of its superclasses. So the question is, why is the message being sent, when no corresponding method exists on the receiver? One possibility is that there is an error in the method where the #clone message is being sent, or that the missing method just hasn't been filed in yet. The next step would probably be to look at the file being filed in, and see what methods it contains. Perhaps it depends on another file that needs to be filed in first? -- Cheers, Peter 2010/8/19 Robert Sirois <watchlala(a)hotmail.com> > No problem, Pharo's driving me crazy today hehe. > > It says: "*** system error handling failed ***" (see attached image). > > Thanks, > RS > > > From: oldmanlink(a)gmail.com > > Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 17:33:03 +0200 > > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Can't file in *.st exports > > > > > Pardon me for being blunt, Robert, but we're going to need a bit more to > go on than "some sort of weird system error". > > > > Could you please attach a file that you tried to file in, and maybe a > screenshot of the error? It would certainly increase your chances of getting > some help ;-) > > > > -- > > Cheers, > > Peter. > > > > On 19 aug 2010, at 17:11, Robert Sirois <watchlala(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > There's some sort of weird system error when I try to fileIn a *.st > file (like a class method). It asks me to "CR" for a debugger or any key to > restart. I ended up having to force quit. > > > > > > This is in the latest 1.1 one-click. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > RS > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Pharo-project mailing list > > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Aug. 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] code licenses...was HTML parser (again))

by Dale Henrichs

StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Yes we should do something. > Now the question is how to do something that we can actually implement. > I think that we should > - start to identify package of interest (quality/topics////) > - check their license status > - check the author and get access > - create an inbox > > Stef > Stef, speaking of licenses...I was thinking that for mcz files, we should have a "directory" of each mcz file that contains the license statement for the code in that _version_ of the mcz file. Most tools would end up ignoring, but if we started including the license _in_ the mcz file, then license status would be _much clearer_. I also assume that a similar addition to mc2 files could/should be done.... Dale

Aug. 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] CogVM binaries!!! {WAS} Re: [squeak-dev] Re: CogVM on the Mac

by laurent laffont

It seems that object as method support still not here Laurent On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> wrote: > It also looks like: > - OSProcess works well on Mac > - the bug related to the window preview in the Watery theme works with the > latest VM (I am talking about the preview of the window when hovering over > the task bar from Pharo) > > This is really great! > > Cheers, > Doru > > > > On 19 Aug 2010, at 10:57, Lukas Renggli wrote: > > 2) Do these binaries include the fixes from henrik to avoid the crash tha >>> happens sometime? >>> >> >> Yes, looks like it. Seaside does not immediately crash the VM. >> >> Lukas >> >> -- >> Lukas Renggli >> www.lukas-renggli.ch >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Problem solving should be focused on describing > the problem in a way that makes the solution obvious." > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Aug. 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] CogVM binaries!!! {WAS} Re: [squeak-dev] Re: CogVM on the Mac

by Mariano Martinez Peck

2010/8/19 Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda(a)gmail.com> > > > 2010/8/19 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> > > >> >> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 6:23 AM, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda(a)gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:14 PM, Chris Cunnington < >>> smalltalktelevision(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Wow. Have I been looking in the wrong place. >>>> I've been downloading trunk build files from svn listed on the >>>> squeakvm.org/unix pages, but *sigh* I didn't see the trove of stuff you >>>> just pointed out. And there are specific instructions for Mac and Unix >>>> builds. This is what I should be looking at. Thank you for pointing there. >>>> >>> >>> For folks' convenience I've just put up some unofficial builds >>> (essentially the same builds I use for testing) under >>> http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM >>> >>> >>> HTH >>> >> >> >> Hi Eliot. This, this HELPS A LOT. This is awesome. Seriously. This is >> really cool. Now we could start to create a Pharo one click based on Cog. >> Having the binaries will increase people using it, reporting bugs, and >> submitting fixes. >> >> Two questions: >> >> 1) why "unofficial" builds? >> > > because these sources are not yet maintained by the Squeak VM builders, > Andreas, Ian & John, > I agreee with this :) now i got it > and because the cod is still green (e.g. object as method still crashes the > VMs). > > but this would mean unstable, or beta or something but not unofficial ;) that's why I was confused. > >> 2) Do these binaries include the fixes from henrik to avoid the crash tha >> happens sometime? >> > > Yes. They're built from the most up-to-date version of the Cog sources. > > Excellent!!! :) thanks a lot mariano > >> Thanks >> >> Mariano >> >> >>> Eliot >>> >>> >>>> Chris >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Aug. 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] CogVM binaries!!! {WAS} Re: [squeak-dev] Re: CogVM on the Mac

by Eliot Miranda

2010/8/19 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> > > > On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 6:23 AM, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:14 PM, Chris Cunnington < >> smalltalktelevision(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Wow. Have I been looking in the wrong place. >>> I've been downloading trunk build files from svn listed on the >>> squeakvm.org/unix pages, but *sigh* I didn't see the trove of stuff you >>> just pointed out. And there are specific instructions for Mac and Unix >>> builds. This is what I should be looking at. Thank you for pointing there. >>> >> >> For folks' convenience I've just put up some unofficial builds >> (essentially the same builds I use for testing) under >> http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM >> >> >> HTH >> > > > Hi Eliot. This, this HELPS A LOT. This is awesome. Seriously. This is > really cool. Now we could start to create a Pharo one click based on Cog. > Having the binaries will increase people using it, reporting bugs, and > submitting fixes. > > Two questions: > > 1) why "unofficial" builds? > because these sources are not yet maintained by the Squeak VM builders, Andreas, Ian & John, and because the cod is still green (e.g. object as method still crashes the VMs). > > 2) Do these binaries include the fixes from henrik to avoid the crash tha > happens sometime? > Yes. They're built from the most up-to-date version of the Cog sources. > > Thanks > > Mariano > > >> Eliot >> >> >>> Chris >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Aug. 19, 2010