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Re: [Pharo-project] [update 1.2] #12106

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Noury I would love to hear more about Ocean and read the end of the Socket chapter :) I would love also get some demo and hand-ons session on how to hack with Alien. Can we do something like that **before** school restart :) Stef > ok. I should have read all my emails before answering :-) > > Noury > On 22 aoÃ»t 2010, at 21:53, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> >> 12106 >> ----- >> >> - Issue 2843: ColoredCodeStream not used. Thanks Marcus Denker. >> >> - Issue 2769: Fixes for broken SocketStream behavior. Thanks Andreas Raab >> >> Fix the loop in network tests. >> >> Stef >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 23, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] DevTools on PharoCore 1.2

by Gary Chambers

Styling seems to be done in a background process... since with long methods it may be quite time consuming. Hence seeing unstyled first then, later, styled text. Regards, Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Schwab,Wilhelm K" <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu> To: <Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 2:36 PM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] DevTools on PharoCore 1.2 I know what you mean. I considered using the core at one point. It was surprisingly nice (given its reputation for being minimal), but the lack of Shout was too much to take :) >From an efficiency perspective, it is interesting to watch the browser render a long method: the last time I noticed it, the text rendered in monochrome and then again in color. If Shout is merely tracing back over the text with color, that might be as intended, but it could also be a clue to a speed boost if the double-rendering is unintentional. Bill ________________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of GermÃ¡n Arduino [gsa(a)arsol.net] Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 8:06 AM To: An open mailing list to discuss any topics related to an open-source Smalltalk Subject: [Pharo-project] DevTools on PharoCore 1.2 Hi! How I should install some devtools (at least shout and ocompletion) on PharoCore to have a more homy work environment? I failed with shout, saw some threads about, but can't install it.... Thanks. -- ================================================= GermÃ¡n S. Arduino <gsa @ arsol.net> Twitter: garduino Arduino Software & Web Hosting http://www.arduinosoftware.com PasswordsPro http://www.passwordspro.com ================================================= _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 23, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 1.2] #12106

by Noury Bouraqadi

ok. I should have read all my emails before answering :-) Noury On 22 aoÃ»t 2010, at 21:53, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > > 12106 > ----- > > - Issue 2843: ColoredCodeStream not used. Thanks Marcus Denker. > > - Issue 2769: Fixes for broken SocketStream behavior. Thanks Andreas Raab > > Fix the loop in network tests. > > Stef > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 23, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 1.2] #12105

by Noury Bouraqadi

On 22 aoÃ»t 2010, at 21:27, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > 12105 > ----- > > - Issue 2844: String>>#numArgs is broken > - reformat String class>>#initialize so that the initializer gets executed (no other changes there) > - fixed String>>#tokenish and String>>#numArgs > - 4 new tests > Thanks Lukas Renngli > > - Issue 2767: SocketStream>>upTo: and #upToAll: to fix an infinite loop. Thanks Andreas Raab. > > Apparently the fix does not solve the endless loop as in squeak. > StÃ©f, in 1207, SocketStreamTest does not hang any more. What is the problem with SocketStream? Noury

Aug. 23, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] DevTools on PharoCore 1.2

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

I know what you mean. I considered using the core at one point. It was surprisingly nice (given its reputation for being minimal), but the lack of Shout was too much to take :) >From an efficiency perspective, it is interesting to watch the browser render a long method: the last time I noticed it, the text rendered in monochrome and then again in color. If Shout is merely tracing back over the text with color, that might be as intended, but it could also be a clue to a speed boost if the double-rendering is unintentional. Bill ________________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of GermÃ¡n Arduino [gsa(a)arsol.net] Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 8:06 AM To: An open mailing list to discuss any topics related to an open-source Smalltalk Subject: [Pharo-project] DevTools on PharoCore 1.2 Hi! How I should install some devtools (at least shout and ocompletion) on PharoCore to have a more homy work environment? I failed with shout, saw some threads about, but can't install it.... Thanks. -- ================================================= GermÃ¡n S. Arduino <gsa @ arsol.net>Â Â Twitter: garduino Arduino Software & Web Hosting http://www.arduinosoftware.com PasswordsPro http://www.passwordspro.com ================================================= _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 23, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] 'foo' asTime

by Gary Chambers

Though not an extension in the Crypto package... Regards, Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Chambers" <gazzaguru2(a)btinternet.com> To: <Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 2:20 PM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] 'foo' asTime Ar, that'd be it... Regards, Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Henrik Johansen" <henrik.s.johansen(a)veloxit.no> To: <Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 1:03 PM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] 'foo' asTime On Aug 23, 2010, at 1:28 28PM, Gary Chambers wrote: > Odd, my 3.9 works. > > Method ByteArray>>asInteger by "len 10/15/2002 18:45" > > Regards, Gary > Integer >> asByteArray is in a 1.0 image, introduced when MD5 was put into core. Maybe you have the Cryptography package in your 3.9 image, and that included it? Cheers, Henry > ----- Original Message ----- From: "StÃ©phane Ducasse" > <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > To: <Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> > Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 11:33 AM > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] 'foo' asTime > > > > On Aug 23, 2010, at 12:21 PM, Gary Chambers wrote: > >> He was porting his stuff from Squeak 3.9 >> >> 3107 apparently. >> >> c.f. >> #(12 35) asByteArray asInteger asByteArray > > > This is what I tried > #(12 35) asByteArray asInteger on my old 3.9 7067 final image and it > barks. > Then a nice explicit loops should make it too. > > Stef > >> >> Unfortunately heavily used when doing low-level stuff with external >> devices socket data etc. >> (let us not get into endianess either though ;-) ) >> >> Regards, Gary >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "StÃ©phane Ducasse" >> <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> >> To: <Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> >> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 11:01 AM >> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] 'foo' asTime >> >> >>> #[12 35] asInteger >>> is not in 1.0, 1.1, and 1.2 >>> It does not work in squeak trunk either >>> did not work in 3.9 either. >>> So I'm puzzled. >>> >>> Now everybody can create his own personal package with the extensions >>> they like. >>> >>> Stef >>> >>> On Aug 23, 2010, at 11:52 AM, Gary Chambers wrote: >>> >>>> +1 >>>> >>>> One of our developers recently complained of #asInteger being removed >>>> from ByteArray for instance... >>>> >>>> Regards, Gary >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brent Pinkney" <brent(a)zamail.co.za> >>>> To: <Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> >>>> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 8:00 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] 'foo' asTime >>>> >>>> >>>>>> I would really like to have the approach proposed by K. Beck on >>>>>> conversion >>>>>> methods. Conversion methods for API compatible objects. Of course it >>>>>> will >>>>>> lead to less compact program (URL readFrom: 'http://' instead of >>>>>> 'http://' >>>>>> url) but avoids a lot of code in String (of course class extensions >>>>>> limit >>>>>> the plague). >>>>> >>>>> Hi, please reconsider this. There is just no way (Duration seconds: 3) >>>>> is >>>>> better than '3 seconds'. >>>>> >>>>> This smacks of working for the computer instead of the other way >>>>> around. >>>>> >>>>> Brent >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 23, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] 'foo' asTime

by Gary Chambers

Ar, that'd be it... Regards, Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Henrik Johansen" <henrik.s.johansen(a)veloxit.no> To: <Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 1:03 PM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] 'foo' asTime On Aug 23, 2010, at 1:28 28PM, Gary Chambers wrote: > Odd, my 3.9 works. > > Method ByteArray>>asInteger by "len 10/15/2002 18:45" > > Regards, Gary > Integer >> asByteArray is in a 1.0 image, introduced when MD5 was put into core. Maybe you have the Cryptography package in your 3.9 image, and that included it? Cheers, Henry > ----- Original Message ----- From: "StÃ©phane Ducasse" > <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > To: <Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> > Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 11:33 AM > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] 'foo' asTime > > > > On Aug 23, 2010, at 12:21 PM, Gary Chambers wrote: > >> He was porting his stuff from Squeak 3.9 >> >> 3107 apparently. >> >> c.f. >> #(12 35) asByteArray asInteger asByteArray > > > This is what I tried > #(12 35) asByteArray asInteger on my old 3.9 7067 final image and it > barks. > Then a nice explicit loops should make it too. > > Stef > >> >> Unfortunately heavily used when doing low-level stuff with external >> devices socket data etc. >> (let us not get into endianess either though ;-) ) >> >> Regards, Gary >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "StÃ©phane Ducasse" >> <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> >> To: <Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> >> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 11:01 AM >> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] 'foo' asTime >> >> >>> #[12 35] asInteger >>> is not in 1.0, 1.1, and 1.2 >>> It does not work in squeak trunk either >>> did not work in 3.9 either. >>> So I'm puzzled. >>> >>> Now everybody can create his own personal package with the extensions >>> they like. >>> >>> Stef >>> >>> On Aug 23, 2010, at 11:52 AM, Gary Chambers wrote: >>> >>>> +1 >>>> >>>> One of our developers recently complained of #asInteger being removed >>>> from ByteArray for instance... >>>> >>>> Regards, Gary >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brent Pinkney" <brent(a)zamail.co.za> >>>> To: <Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> >>>> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 8:00 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] 'foo' asTime >>>> >>>> >>>>>> I would really like to have the approach proposed by K. Beck on >>>>>> conversion >>>>>> methods. Conversion methods for API compatible objects. Of course it >>>>>> will >>>>>> lead to less compact program (URL readFrom: 'http://' instead of >>>>>> 'http://' >>>>>> url) but avoids a lot of code in String (of course class extensions >>>>>> limit >>>>>> the plague). >>>>> >>>>> Hi, please reconsider this. There is just no way (Duration seconds: 3) >>>>> is >>>>> better than '3 seconds'. >>>>> >>>>> This smacks of working for the computer instead of the other way >>>>> around. >>>>> >>>>> Brent >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 23, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [Vm-dev] RE: Linux vm

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

Subbu, It can still be a serious problem as performance can suffer. In fact, in this case, I am talking about Shared Libraries, not plugins. There is no fallback code; one succeeds in loading the library or the game is over. strace might do the job, but what is wrong with having the vm log what it is trying to do? Bill ________________________________________ From: K. K. Subramaniam [kksubbu.ml(a)gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 2:33 AM To: vm-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org Cc: Schwab,Wilhelm K; Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Vm-dev] RE: Linux vm On Sunday 22 Aug 2010 8:09:22 am Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > Is there a way to get such diagnostic information without hacking the vm > source? If not, please consider the following as a proposed patch. I > have tried to strike a balance between seeing enough to make sense of > errant plugin paths and giving detailed information about failures when > given an absolute path In your place, I would have tried ldd(1) or strace(1) to detect path load errors. In general, failing to load a plugin module is not a fatal error. Sometimes, a primtive can fallback to using internal routines if the plugin is not available. Subbu

Aug. 23, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Gaucho Progress

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

if you want to use me as a guinea pig at esug for an experience with gaucho let me know. On Aug 23, 2010, at 2:55 PM, Fernando olivero wrote: > Hi Stephan, my fault because i neglected to add comments to my commits. I will start adding them now. > > But in my defense i not using Monticello for tracking the progress, but releases. > ( Gaucho1.0 features are listed in the home page ) > > BTW we plan to release Gaucho1.1 before the ESUG, which will come with many new features, which will also be listed there. > Just a preview: > > - In place editors for changing methods statements > - Basic automatic placement for created\imported shapes, not attached to the hand anymore. > - scrollable list widget works with mouse wheel. > - effects/animations to enhance liveness. > - completion widget, working with OModel! ( google like behavior) > - mac style contextual top toolbar ( replaces old cmt-t toolbar on demand) > - settings browser > - improved event/change model > - improved session model > - etc... > > I'll update the web page soon, announcing the new release. > > Thanks for the info, > Please feel free to ask me any question regarding the status or progress, > Fernando > > On Aug 23, 2010, at 12:38 PM, Fernando olivero wrote: > >> >> On Aug 19, 2010, at 1:25 PM, Stephan Eggermont wrote: >> >>> Gaucho looks like an interesting system. Too bad the monticello versions >>> don't have comments, making it difficult to track progress. Is there another >>> way to see what's happening? >>> >>> Stephan >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 23, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [SPAM] Re: [squeak-dev] [ANN] SimpleLogger released

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

O > SLLogMorph>>#testFilter: aMessage > | lowerString | > lowerString := aMessage value value asLowercase. > ^(self searchString asString substrings allSatisfy: [:sub | > sub := (sub asLowercase) replaceAll: $_ with: (Character space). > ((sub first = $-) and: [(lowerString includesSubString: sub allButFirst) not]) or: > [(sub first = $+) and: [lowerString includesSubString: sub allButFirst]] or: > [lowerString includesSubString: sub]]) > > I think you cannot modify the sub block variable in Pharo... in any blockclosure implementation in fact Stef

Aug. 23, 2010