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Re: [Pharo-project] Poll: missing libraries to support busines

by GermÃ¡n Arduino

I'm writing him ... 2010/8/24 GermÃ¡n Arduino <garduino(a)gmail.com>: > Good info! And Bruce is on this list? Someone know how to contact him? > > > 2010/8/24 Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com>: >> On 24 August 2010 16:18, GermÃ¡n Arduino <garduino(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> Yes, but who is the copywriter if the web site don't exist anymore? >>> >>> How to contact? May be Lukas know more, being that was involved with >>> this package IIRC. >> >> AFAIK, the original author of SPDF is Bruce Badger. >> >> Lukas >> >>> >>> Cheers. >>> >>> >>> 2010/8/24 Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com>: >>>> It looks like you are in the possession of copyrighted code and that you are >>>> not allowed to do anything with it unless you have permission from the >>>> copyright holder. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Doru >>>> >>>> >>>> On 24 Aug 2010, at 15:38, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: >>>> >>>>> I've the basics working, but, I should crete a repo on Squeaksource? >>>>> >>>>> One license text on the package says: >>>>> >>>>> Copyright (c) 1998 SPL WorldGroup, Inc. ("SPL WorldGroup"). Â All >>>>> rights reserved. Protected by the copyright laws of the United States >>>>> and international treaties. Â This software may only be used in >>>>> accordance with the terms and conditions of the "SPL WorldGroup, Inc. >>>>> Software Web Site Agreement" which can be viewed on SPL WorldGroup's >>>>> web site, at www.splwg.com. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> As far as I saw splwg.com now point to Oracle web site..... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> What do you think? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2010/8/24 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: >>>>>> >>>>>> +1 >>>>>> On Aug 24, 2010, at 2:35 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> This would be indeed a valuable addition to the Pharo libraries. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Doru >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 24 Aug 2010, at 14:31, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks Stef! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It loads ok on the latest PharoCore 1.2. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A quick try show me that the tests don't work mainly because the >>>>>>>> changes on UI. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I can add this to my infinite to-do list and take a look if is worth >>>>>>>> to the community. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Also we should add a repo on SqueakSource? I noticed several license >>>>>>>> notes on the source >>>>>>>> code, but not idea if can be released as mit or not..... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Clues? >>>>>>>> German. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2010/8/24 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Aug 6, 2010, at 8:16 AM, Stephan Eggermont wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I would like to have native, or at least better, libraries for >>>>>>>>>> manipulating PDFs >>>>>>>>>> and office files. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Stephan >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "In a world where everything is moving ever faster, >>>>>>> one might have better chances to win by moving slower." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> ================================================= >>>>> GermÃ¡n S. Arduino Â <gsa @ arsol.net> Â Twitter: garduino >>>>> Arduino Software & Web Hosting Â http://www.arduinosoftware.com >>>>> PasswordsPro Â http://www.passwordspro.com >>>>> ================================================= >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>>> -- >>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>> >>>> "What we can governs what we wish." >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ================================================= >>> GermÃ¡n S. ArduinoÂ <gsa @ arsol.net>Â Â Twitter: garduino >>> Arduino Software & Web HostingÂ Â http://www.arduinosoftware.com >>> PasswordsProÂ http://www.passwordspro.com >>> ================================================= >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Lukas Renggli >> www.lukas-renggli.ch >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >

Aug. 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: [Pharo-users] 3600 seconds seconds = 0 ???

by Nicolas Cellier

What about the fractional part ? Should asSeconds and seconds answer an integral truncated number, or should it answer the fractional subSeconds part (a ScaledDecimal ? aFloat ?) Nicolas 2010/8/24 Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito(a)gmail.com>: > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2855 > > On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 10:20 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse > <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> >> yes please! >> Thanks for checking. >> >> Stef >> On Aug 24, 2010, at 3:12 PM, Guillermo Polito wrote: >> >> > According to the pdf in here http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/172 >> > >> > Duration may have >> > ... >> > asSeconds >> > Â Answer the total number of seconds in the length of time >> > represented by the receiver. >> > ... >> > days >> > Â Answer the number of complete days in the receiver. >> > hours >> > Â Answer the number of complete hours in the receiver. >> > minutes >> > Â Answer the number of complete minutes in the receiver. >> > ... >> > seconds >> > Â Answer the number of seconds in the receiver. >> > >> > So maybe the best thing to do is to correct the comments and extend the >> > api. >> > >> > Should I open a ticket? >> > >> > On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 8:27 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse >> > <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> >> we should check our ugly standard because apparently seconds comes from >> >> ANSI. >> >> >> >> Stef >> >> >> >> On Aug 24, 2010, at 12:45 PM, Guillermo Polito wrote: >> >> >> >>> On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 7:27 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse >> >>> <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> >>>> 3600 seconds seconds = 0 >> >>>> Â Â Â Â which means that this is a number of seconds in the >> >>>> hour:min:seconds decomposition >> >>>> >> >>>> Now it looks to me that the method comment is wrong >> >>> >> >>> yeap >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> seconds >> >>>> Â Â Â Â "Answer the number of seconds the receiver represents." >> >>>> >> >>>> Â Â Â Â ^ (seconds rem: SecondsInMinute) >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> 3600 seconds asSeconds = 3600 is what is working >> >>>> >> >>>> may be (Duration seconds: 3600) would be better >> >>>> >> >>>> To me there is something conceptually bogus with such definition of >> >>>> minutes and seconds. >> >>>> Â Â Â Â (Duration seconds: 3600) minutes = 0 >> >>>> Â Â Â Â (Duration seconds: 3600) seconds = 0 >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> that's the same you remarked, the decomposition of the duration :). >> >>> Maybe there are better names for the decomposition... Or better >> >>> comments. >> >>> >> >>> I'm looking that Duration also lacks methods to get the total hours >> >>> and minutes the duration represents (Which is the behavior you >> >>> expected, didn't you?). Â Something like >> >>> >> >>> (Duration seconds: 3600) totalMinutes = 60 >> >>> (Duration seconds: 3600) totalSeconds = 3600 >> >>> >> >>> But, what about something like >> >>> >> >>> (Duration seconds: 3601) totalMinutes = Â (3601/60) ?? >> >>> >> >>> Guille >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Stef >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> Pharo-users mailing list >> >>>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >> >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Pharo-project mailing list >> >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Pharo-project mailing list >> >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Pharo-project mailing list >> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Aug. 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] 'foo' asTime

by Nicolas Cellier

In squeak, (Integer readFromString: 'foo') ->Error Use: - Integer readFrom: 'foo' ifFail: [0], tp get backward compatibility, - (Integer readFrom: 'foo' ifFail: []), to get nil Though it is possible, I dislike anwsering nil, because it would mean a bunch of #readFrom: send should be protected by #ifNil: Blocks... 1) That's nonsense, readFrom:ifFail: already does the work. 2) you cripple the code with Error conditions and end up with unreadable C-looking like code (3 lines of Error condition crap for 1 line of underlying algorithm at every function call) 3) Exception handling can avoid long chains of ifFail: / ifNil: tests But that conversation already took place many times... I'd like the readFrom:ifFail: form to be generalized to other objects, with default behaviour raising an Error. What do you think ? Nicolas 2010/8/24 Johan Brichau <johan(a)inceptive.be>: > > On 24 Aug 2010, at 15:19, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> I thought that readFromString: was raising an error and that guessNumber* was returning zero > > I thought that too. I even have application code that shows that this used to return nil in some version of Pharo... > But: > > 'foo' asInteger = nil > Integer readFromString: 'foo' = 0 > 'foo' asNumber -> Error > > aargh :-( > > disclaimer: currently testing this in pharo1.1 > > Johan > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Aug. 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Poll: missing libraries to support busines

by GermÃ¡n Arduino

Good info! And Bruce is on this list? Someone know how to contact him? 2010/8/24 Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com>: > On 24 August 2010 16:18, GermÃ¡n Arduino <garduino(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Yes, but who is the copywriter if the web site don't exist anymore? >> >> How to contact? May be Lukas know more, being that was involved with >> this package IIRC. > > AFAIK, the original author of SPDF is Bruce Badger. > > Lukas > >> >> Cheers. >> >> >> 2010/8/24 Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com>: >>> It looks like you are in the possession of copyrighted code and that you are >>> not allowed to do anything with it unless you have permission from the >>> copyright holder. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Doru >>> >>> >>> On 24 Aug 2010, at 15:38, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: >>> >>>> I've the basics working, but, I should crete a repo on Squeaksource? >>>> >>>> One license text on the package says: >>>> >>>> Copyright (c) 1998 SPL WorldGroup, Inc. ("SPL WorldGroup"). Â All >>>> rights reserved. Protected by the copyright laws of the United States >>>> and international treaties. Â This software may only be used in >>>> accordance with the terms and conditions of the "SPL WorldGroup, Inc. >>>> Software Web Site Agreement" which can be viewed on SPL WorldGroup's >>>> web site, at www.splwg.com. >>>> >>>> >>>> As far as I saw splwg.com now point to Oracle web site..... >>>> >>>> >>>> What do you think? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 2010/8/24 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: >>>>> >>>>> +1 >>>>> On Aug 24, 2010, at 2:35 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> This would be indeed a valuable addition to the Pharo libraries. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Doru >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 24 Aug 2010, at 14:31, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks Stef! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It loads ok on the latest PharoCore 1.2. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A quick try show me that the tests don't work mainly because the >>>>>>> changes on UI. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I can add this to my infinite to-do list and take a look if is worth >>>>>>> to the community. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also we should add a repo on SqueakSource? I noticed several license >>>>>>> notes on the source >>>>>>> code, but not idea if can be released as mit or not..... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Clues? >>>>>>> German. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2010/8/24 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Aug 6, 2010, at 8:16 AM, Stephan Eggermont wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I would like to have native, or at least better, libraries for >>>>>>>>> manipulating PDFs >>>>>>>>> and office files. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Stephan >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>> >>>>>> "In a world where everything is moving ever faster, >>>>>> one might have better chances to win by moving slower." >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> ================================================= >>>> GermÃ¡n S. Arduino Â <gsa @ arsol.net> Â Twitter: garduino >>>> Arduino Software & Web Hosting Â http://www.arduinosoftware.com >>>> PasswordsPro Â http://www.passwordspro.com >>>> ================================================= >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> -- >>> www.tudorgirba.com >>> >>> "What we can governs what we wish." >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> ================================================= >> GermÃ¡n S. ArduinoÂ <gsa @ arsol.net>Â Â Twitter: garduino >> Arduino Software & Web HostingÂ Â http://www.arduinosoftware.com >> PasswordsProÂ http://www.passwordspro.com >> ================================================= >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > Lukas Renggli > www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Aug. 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Poll: missing libraries to support busines

by Lukas Renggli

On 24 August 2010 16:18, GermÃ¡n Arduino <garduino(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Yes, but who is the copywriter if the web site don't exist anymore? > > How to contact? May be Lukas know more, being that was involved with > this package IIRC. AFAIK, the original author of SPDF is Bruce Badger. Lukas > > Cheers. > > > 2010/8/24 Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com>: >> It looks like you are in the possession of copyrighted code and that you are >> not allowed to do anything with it unless you have permission from the >> copyright holder. >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> On 24 Aug 2010, at 15:38, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: >> >>> I've the basics working, but, I should crete a repo on Squeaksource? >>> >>> One license text on the package says: >>> >>> Copyright (c) 1998 SPL WorldGroup, Inc. ("SPL WorldGroup"). Â All >>> rights reserved. Protected by the copyright laws of the United States >>> and international treaties. Â This software may only be used in >>> accordance with the terms and conditions of the "SPL WorldGroup, Inc. >>> Software Web Site Agreement" which can be viewed on SPL WorldGroup's >>> web site, at www.splwg.com. >>> >>> >>> As far as I saw splwg.com now point to Oracle web site..... >>> >>> >>> What do you think? >>> >>> >>> >>> 2010/8/24 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: >>>> >>>> +1 >>>> On Aug 24, 2010, at 2:35 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: >>>> >>>>> This would be indeed a valuable addition to the Pharo libraries. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Doru >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 24 Aug 2010, at 14:31, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Stef! >>>>>> >>>>>> It loads ok on the latest PharoCore 1.2. >>>>>> >>>>>> A quick try show me that the tests don't work mainly because the >>>>>> changes on UI. >>>>>> >>>>>> I can add this to my infinite to-do list and take a look if is worth >>>>>> to the community. >>>>>> >>>>>> Also we should add a repo on SqueakSource? I noticed several license >>>>>> notes on the source >>>>>> code, but not idea if can be released as mit or not..... >>>>>> >>>>>> Clues? >>>>>> German. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 2010/8/24 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Aug 6, 2010, at 8:16 AM, Stephan Eggermont wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I would like to have native, or at least better, libraries for >>>>>>>> manipulating PDFs >>>>>>>> and office files. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Stephan >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>> >>>>> "In a world where everything is moving ever faster, >>>>> one might have better chances to win by moving slower." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ================================================= >>> GermÃ¡n S. Arduino Â <gsa @ arsol.net> Â Twitter: garduino >>> Arduino Software & Web Hosting Â http://www.arduinosoftware.com >>> PasswordsPro Â http://www.passwordspro.com >>> ================================================= >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "What we can governs what we wish." >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > ================================================= > GermÃ¡n S. ArduinoÂ <gsa @ arsol.net>Â Â Twitter: garduino > Arduino Software & Web HostingÂ Â http://www.arduinosoftware.com > PasswordsProÂ http://www.passwordspro.com > ================================================= > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

Aug. 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Poll: missing libraries to support busines

by GermÃ¡n Arduino

Yes, but who is the copywriter if the web site don't exist anymore? How to contact? May be Lukas know more, being that was involved with this package IIRC. Cheers. 2010/8/24 Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com>: > It looks like you are in the possession of copyrighted code and that you are > not allowed to do anything with it unless you have permission from the > copyright holder. > > Cheers, > Doru > > > On 24 Aug 2010, at 15:38, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: > >> I've the basics working, but, I should crete a repo on Squeaksource? >> >> One license text on the package says: >> >> Copyright (c) 1998 SPL WorldGroup, Inc. ("SPL WorldGroup"). Â All >> rights reserved. Protected by the copyright laws of the United States >> and international treaties. Â This software may only be used in >> accordance with the terms and conditions of the "SPL WorldGroup, Inc. >> Software Web Site Agreement" which can be viewed on SPL WorldGroup's >> web site, at www.splwg.com. >> >> >> As far as I saw splwg.com now point to Oracle web site..... >> >> >> What do you think? >> >> >> >> 2010/8/24 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: >>> >>> +1 >>> On Aug 24, 2010, at 2:35 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: >>> >>>> This would be indeed a valuable addition to the Pharo libraries. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Doru >>>> >>>> >>>> On 24 Aug 2010, at 14:31, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks Stef! >>>>> >>>>> It loads ok on the latest PharoCore 1.2. >>>>> >>>>> A quick try show me that the tests don't work mainly because the >>>>> changes on UI. >>>>> >>>>> I can add this to my infinite to-do list and take a look if is worth >>>>> to the community. >>>>> >>>>> Also we should add a repo on SqueakSource? I noticed several license >>>>> notes on the source >>>>> code, but not idea if can be released as mit or not..... >>>>> >>>>> Clues? >>>>> German. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2010/8/24 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: >>>>>> >>>>>> On Aug 6, 2010, at 8:16 AM, Stephan Eggermont wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I would like to have native, or at least better, libraries for >>>>>>> manipulating PDFs >>>>>>> and office files. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Stephan >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>>> -- >>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>> >>>> "In a world where everything is moving ever faster, >>>> one might have better chances to win by moving slower." >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> ================================================= >> GermÃ¡n S. Arduino Â <gsa @ arsol.net> Â Twitter: garduino >> Arduino Software & Web Hosting Â http://www.arduinosoftware.com >> PasswordsPro Â http://www.passwordspro.com >> ================================================= >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "What we can governs what we wish." > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- ================================================= GermÃ¡n S. ArduinoÂ <gsa @ arsol.net>Â Â Twitter: garduino Arduino Software & Web HostingÂ Â http://www.arduinosoftware.com PasswordsProÂ http://www.passwordspro.com =================================================

Aug. 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 1.2] #12106

by Alexandre Bergel

> Luc and i restarted working on Ocean last week after vacation. We moved to 1.1 and improved socket a bit. > I'll carry on with the socket chapter too :-) In one sentence, what is Ocean? Alexandre > >> >> Stef >> >>> ok. I should have read all my emails before answering :-) >>> >>> Noury >>> On 22 aoÃ»t 2010, at 21:53, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> 12106 >>>> ----- >>>> >>>> - Issue 2843: ColoredCodeStream not used. Thanks Marcus Denker. >>>> >>>> - Issue 2769: Fixes for broken SocketStream behavior. Thanks Andreas Raab >>>> >>>> Fix the loop in network tests. >>>> >>>> Stef >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Aug. 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [Moose-dev] Re: cog vm

by Tudor Girba

These images just take the corresponding regular image (based on pharo 1.1) and apply the change set produced by Lukas. I attached the changeset here for convenience. Cheers, Doru On 24 Aug 2010, at 15:52, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > Hi Mariano, > > I announced before that we have both Moose and Moose with Seaside > images for Cog: > http://hudson.moosetechnology.org/job/moose-latest-dev-for-cog/ > http://hudson.moosetechnology.org/job/moose-with-glamour-seaside-for-cog/ > > > Doru...do you have to do something else in the image side for Cog > than what Lukas did some time ago? > I mean...what did you have to change in Pharo 1.1 so that to use > CogVM? > > > Cheers, > Doru > > > > On 23 Aug 2010, at 16:18, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > I din't know why I don't send everything in the same email hahahaha > sorry... > > I forgot to say that Eliot said: > > " > For folks' convenience I've just put up some unofficial builds > (essentially the same builds I use for testing) under http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM > > " > > On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com > > wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com > > wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 4:09 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > Hi, > > Is there anybody using the Cog VM on a regular basis? > > I am using it for most of my development, and it now works quite > well (except for the methods as objects issue). It would be > interesting to collect problem reports. > > > Hi Doru, what about creating a one click image or at least a Moose > 4.1 image ready for CogVM. I mean, CogVM image requiered changes > were not integrated in Pharo 1.1, but in 1.2 as I understand. Thus, > I guess people should integrate those things. Maybe provinging a one > click Moose 4.1 CogVM would help. I wanted to do that for phaor but > I didn't have time :( > > > > and you have to also save the image and open it agian I think..... > > > Cheers, > Doru > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "To lead is not to demand things, it is to make them happen." > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "There are no old things, there are only old ways of looking at them." > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- www.tudorgirba.com "Sometimes the best solution is not the best solution."

Aug. 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [Moose-dev] Re: cog vm

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Mariano, > > I announced before that we have both Moose and Moose with Seaside images > for Cog: > http://hudson.moosetechnology.org/job/moose-latest-dev-for-cog/ > http://hudson.moosetechnology.org/job/moose-with-glamour-seaside-for-cog/ > > Doru...do you have to do something else in the image side for Cog than what Lukas did some time ago? I mean...what did you have to change in Pharo 1.1 so that to use CogVM? > Cheers, > Doru > > > > On 23 Aug 2010, at 16:18, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > I din't know why I don't send everything in the same email hahahaha >> sorry... >> >> I forgot to say that Eliot said: >> >> " >> For folks' convenience I've just put up some unofficial builds >> (essentially the same builds I use for testing) under >> http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM >> >> " >> >> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck < >> marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck < >> marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 4:09 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Is there anybody using the Cog VM on a regular basis? >> >> I am using it for most of my development, and it now works quite well >> (except for the methods as objects issue). It would be interesting to >> collect problem reports. >> >> >> Hi Doru, what about creating a one click image or at least a Moose 4.1 >> image ready for CogVM. I mean, CogVM image requiered changes were not >> integrated in Pharo 1.1, but in 1.2 as I understand. Thus, I guess people >> should integrate those things. Maybe provinging a one click Moose 4.1 CogVM >> would help. I wanted to do that for phaor but I didn't have time :( >> >> >> >> and you have to also save the image and open it agian I think..... >> >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "To lead is not to demand things, it is to make them happen." >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "There are no old things, there are only old ways of looking at them." > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >

Aug. 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Poll: missing libraries to support busines

by Tudor Girba

It looks like you are in the possession of copyrighted code and that you are not allowed to do anything with it unless you have permission from the copyright holder. Cheers, Doru On 24 Aug 2010, at 15:38, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: > I've the basics working, but, I should crete a repo on Squeaksource? > > One license text on the package says: > > Copyright (c) 1998 SPL WorldGroup, Inc. ("SPL WorldGroup"). All > rights reserved. Protected by the copyright laws of the United States > and international treaties. This software may only be used in > accordance with the terms and conditions of the "SPL WorldGroup, Inc. > Software Web Site Agreement" which can be viewed on SPL WorldGroup's > web site, at www.splwg.com. > > > As far as I saw splwg.com now point to Oracle web site..... > > > What do you think? > > > > 2010/8/24 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: >> +1 >> On Aug 24, 2010, at 2:35 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: >> >>> This would be indeed a valuable addition to the Pharo libraries. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Doru >>> >>> >>> On 24 Aug 2010, at 14:31, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks Stef! >>>> >>>> It loads ok on the latest PharoCore 1.2. >>>> >>>> A quick try show me that the tests don't work mainly because the >>>> changes on UI. >>>> >>>> I can add this to my infinite to-do list and take a look if is >>>> worth >>>> to the community. >>>> >>>> Also we should add a repo on SqueakSource? I noticed several >>>> license >>>> notes on the source >>>> code, but not idea if can be released as mit or not..... >>>> >>>> Clues? >>>> German. >>>> >>>> >>>> 2010/8/24 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: >>>>> >>>>> On Aug 6, 2010, at 8:16 AM, Stephan Eggermont wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I would like to have native, or at least better, libraries for >>>>>> manipulating PDFs >>>>>> and office files. >>>>>> >>>>>> Stephan >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- >>>>> project >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> -- >>> www.tudorgirba.com >>> >>> "In a world where everything is moving ever faster, >>> one might have better chances to win by moving slower." >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > ================================================= > GermÃ¡n S. Arduino <gsa @ arsol.net> Twitter: garduino > Arduino Software & Web Hosting http://www.arduinosoftware.com > PasswordsPro http://www.passwordspro.com > ================================================= > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- www.tudorgirba.com "What we can governs what we wish."

Aug. 24, 2010