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Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Experimental Cocoa OS-X based Squeak Cog JIT VM 5.8b4.

by Tudor Girba

Ahh, I see. I expect it to jump between words. On regular Mac applications, you get this behavior by pressing alt-arrow. And when I press shift-ctrl-arrow, I expect it to select up to the end of the word. On regular Mac applications, you get this behavior by pressing alt-shift-arrow. Of course, I would not mind if instead of ctrl we would have alt :). Cheers, Doru On 29 Aug 2010, at 20:52, John M McIntosh wrote: > Ok, well I have no idea what you are using control-arrow-left key for. > if you bring up a browser window, place the cursor in the text entry > input field then? > What do you expect to happen when you tap certain keys? > > On 2010-08-29, at 10:50 AM, Tudor Girba wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> On 29 Aug 2010, at 19:44, John M McIntosh wrote: >> >>> Ah, yes this is a functional change between 10.5 and 10.6 >>> >>> Can you document a test case for me in a 4.x squeak VM so I can >>> figure out what to do for the 10.5 users >> >> How exactly should I do that? >> >> I just checked in a 4.2.2 and everything works as expected. >> >> Cheers, >> Doru > > -- > = > = > = > = > = > ====================================================================== > John M. McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> Twitter: > squeaker68882 > Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http:// > www.smalltalkconsulting.com > = > = > = > = > = > ====================================================================== > > > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Next time you see your life passing by, say 'hi' and get to know her."

Aug. 29, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Experimental Cocoa OS-X based Squeak Cog JIT VM 5.8b4.

by John M McIntosh

Ok, well I have no idea what you are using control-arrow-left key for. if you bring up a browser window, place the cursor in the text entry input field then? What do you expect to happen when you tap certain keys? On 2010-08-29, at 10:50 AM, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi, > > On 29 Aug 2010, at 19:44, John M McIntosh wrote: > >> Ah, yes this is a functional change between 10.5 and 10.6 >> >> Can you document a test case for me in a 4.x squeak VM so I can figure out what to do for the 10.5 users > > How exactly should I do that? > > I just checked in a 4.2.2 and everything works as expected. > > Cheers, > Doru -- =========================================================================== John M. McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> Twitter: squeaker68882 Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com ===========================================================================

Aug. 29, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] this style looks cool

by Tudor Girba

Hi Bill, The icons are available the OB browser by overriding #browserIcon. Some of the icons that you see are shipped with Seaside. The blueish bubble denotes an announcement and is already present in Pharo. Cheers, Doru On 29 Aug 2010, at 20:43, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > Stef, > > The first thing I notice in it is background colors, or is it just > variation in backlighting on my monitor? Have we evolved to the > point that background colors can be readily set? Last I looked into > it, there was mention of a background style that I could never find. > > Another thing is that a large fraction of the classes have icons > associated with them. Dolphin makes that easy to do: just implement > a class-side #icon, which I always did in terms of a rich set of > class icons present in the base system, so I never had to mess with > the details. It would be nice if it were that easy in Pharo; when > well designed, such icons can aid perception. Since I constantly > praise Dolphin, I will point out that D6's use of apples for most > classes was not the best choice. It was visually grating and lead > to a rather unprofessional look in a deployed executable where I had > previously never given a second thought when the default icon was a > dot. A rich (and expendable) set of clean icons for collections/ > composites, views, plugs/sockets, various metaphors that are easy to > associate with one's own classes would be helpful. > > This might be similar to Dolphin's ability to apply multiple > categories to a method: you won't miss it if you have never had > access to it, but it is a *good* thing to have. > > Bill > > > > ________________________________________ > From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > ] On Behalf Of stephane ducasse [stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr] > Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 2:17 PM > To: Pharo Development > Subject: [Pharo-project] this style looks cool > > http://www.anymorphic.com/softwareentwicklung.html > > Stef > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- www.tudorgirba.com "From an abstract enough point of view, any two things are similar."

Aug. 29, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] moose description on pharo-project

by Tudor Girba

Thanks! Doru On 29 Aug 2010, at 20:39, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > Done. > > Adrian > > On Aug 29, 2010, at 20:30 , Tudor Girba wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Could someone change the description of Moose from http://pharo-project.org/about/success-stories? >> >> It should say: >> "Moose is a platform for software and data analysis" >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "Problem solving should be focused on describing >> the problem in a way that makes the solution obvious." >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- www.tudorgirba.com "The coherence of a trip is given by the clearness of the goal."

Aug. 29, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] this style looks cool

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

Stef, The first thing I notice in it is background colors, or is it just variation in backlighting on my monitor? Have we evolved to the point that background colors can be readily set? Last I looked into it, there was mention of a background style that I could never find. Another thing is that a large fraction of the classes have icons associated with them. Dolphin makes that easy to do: just implement a class-side #icon, which I always did in terms of a rich set of class icons present in the base system, so I never had to mess with the details. It would be nice if it were that easy in Pharo; when well designed, such icons can aid perception. Since I constantly praise Dolphin, I will point out that D6's use of apples for most classes was not the best choice. It was visually grating and lead to a rather unprofessional look in a deployed executable where I had previously never given a second thought when the default icon was a dot. A rich (and expendable) set of clean icons for collections/composites, views, plugs/sockets, various metaphors that are easy to associate with one's own classes would be helpful. This might be similar to Dolphin's ability to apply multiple categories to a method: you won't miss it if you have never had access to it, but it is a *good* thing to have. Bill ________________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of stephane ducasse [stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr] Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 2:17 PM To: Pharo Development Subject: [Pharo-project] this style looks cool http://www.anymorphic.com/softwareentwicklung.html Stef _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 29, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] this style looks cool

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Aug 29, 2010, at 8:30 PM, Steven R. Baker wrote: >>>> http://www.anymorphic.com/softwareentwicklung.html >>> >>> I love that style, but I'd like to see the OS X jolly rancher buttons go away. Ok now I got it. :) Indeed! I was thinking that there is also a lot of things in general that I would like to see go away. I'm trying to rewrite some of the code of Utilities.... Stef >> >> what are these? > > The window buttons on the top left that mimic OS X. Jolly Ranchers are candy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jolly_Rancher > > -Steven > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 29, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] moose description on pharo-project

by Adrian Lienhard

Done. Adrian On Aug 29, 2010, at 20:30 , Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi, > > Could someone change the description of Moose from http://pharo-project.org/about/success-stories? > > It should say: > "Moose is a platform for software and data analysis" > > Cheers, > Doru > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Problem solving should be focused on describing > the problem in a way that makes the solution obvious." > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 29, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] this style looks cool

by Adrian Lienhard

It is in the list of companies at the right side. BTW, I also very much like this style. There's not a lot changed compared to the default style (mainly the buttons and the button bar background) but it looks much better. Cheers, Adrian On Aug 29, 2010, at 20:31 , Tudor Girba wrote: > It looks like this page is not on the Pharo success stories page. > > Cheers, > Doru > > > On 29 Aug 2010, at 20:17, stephane ducasse wrote: > >> http://www.anymorphic.com/softwareentwicklung.html >> >> Stef >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Being happy is a matter of choice." > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 29, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] this style looks cool

by Tudor Girba

It looks like this page is not on the Pharo success stories page. Cheers, Doru On 29 Aug 2010, at 20:17, stephane ducasse wrote: > http://www.anymorphic.com/softwareentwicklung.html > > Stef > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- www.tudorgirba.com "Being happy is a matter of choice."

Aug. 29, 2010

[Pharo-project] moose description on pharo-project

by Tudor Girba

Hi, Could someone change the description of Moose from http://pharo-project.org/about/success-stories? It should say: "Moose is a platform for software and data analysis" Cheers, Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com "Problem solving should be focused on describing the problem in a way that makes the solution obvious."

Aug. 29, 2010