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Re: [Pharo-project] cog vm and copy/paste

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

Is your "straightforward" assessment based on John's work, or is it a general observation about Eliot's source? I ask because there has been a lot of chatter about, so it seemed reasonable to assume it could be a lot of work; if not, that would be great news. ________________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Andreas Wacknitz [a.wacknitz(a)gmx.de] Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 8:43 AM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] cog vm and copy/paste Hi Norbert, Am 19.09.2010 um 14:23 schrieb Norbert Hartl: I started today using cog vm. I just downloaded the ones from Eliots site: Cog.app.tgz<http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/VM.r2310/Cog.app.tgz>. I'm using it along with a 12142 core image. With this combination I don't have copy&paste. The menu is there but items are greyed out. Keyboard shortcuts don't work as well. Any hints on this? you can alternatively use the newer VM's of John McIntosh (the latest is 5.8b10) or build newer Cog VM's from source (straightforward). The newest revision is 2310. I don't have any copy & paste problems with neither of them. Regards, Andreas

Sept. 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] we need to find a way to declare that an action is UIless

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

Stef, I could be wrong, but I suspect the correct path is to take the GUI manipulation out of the base classes, and if we are still so slow as to need some progress indication, it could be readily hacked (in a good way) as follows: (1) Transcript output, provided it works on the fly vs. appearing all at once at the end (I fear the latter might hold at present??) (2) via a good logging system and an external process (cross-platform analog to OutputDebugString() and DebugView on Windows) (3) trigger an event and let anything that wants to observe them, with nothing doing so by default. I would really like to see (2) grow as an option for us. I periodically do some work with Pharo on a particular Windows system (getting to be ever more rare in my world<g>), but I do greatly appreciate the real-time tracing. Even if we end up doing it with a separate image and sockets, it would be nice to have. The separate image could be a nice example of deploying an "executable" as well as a potential show piece for Polymorph. Bill ________________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of StÃ©phane Ducasse [stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr] Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 6:12 AM To: Pharo Development Subject: [Pharo-project] we need to find a way to declare that an action is UIless hi guys I tried to add borderStyle to BorderedMorph and the progressbar showing the progress blow up. So we should really have a way to specify silent ui action. Does anybody have an idea how I could do that? [BorderedMorph addInstVarNamed: 'borderStyle'] silent would be cool. Stef _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Sept. 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Morph selectors size - CUISMorph selectors size = 358

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

Stef, I'm all for it, but one question: do they have no senders, or are they truly not used? For some reason, #perform: comes to mind. Bill ________________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of StÃ©phane Ducasse [stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr] Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 3:36 AM To: Pharo Development Subject: [Pharo-project] Morph selectors size - CUISMorph selectors size = 358 So I'm confident that we could remove some of the unused Morphic behavior. :) Morph selectors difference: #(#eventHandler #highlightedForMouseDown #extent: #maybeAddCollapseItemTo: #submorphsBehind:do: #valueOfProperty:ifAbsentPut: #textAnchorType: #isOrthoRectangularMorph #referencePosition #internalizePosition:from: #ownShadowForm #allStringsAfter: #addStandardHaloMenuItemsTo:hand: #colorForInsets #toggleStickiness #initialExtent #addTitleForHaloMenu: #focusKeyboardFor: #submorphInFrontOf: #extent #addHalo #worldBoundsForHalo #initializeExtension #mouseStillDown: #changeDocumentAnchor #drawMouseDownHighlightOn: #position: #sticky: #changeInlineAnchor #shouldDropOnMouseUp #defaultBalloonColor #extension #beSticky #resizeFromMenu #keyDown: #invokeMetaMenuAt:event: #removedMorph: #fullDrawOn: #balloonText #right #drawDropHighlightOn: #flash #mouseLeave: #submorphCount #addCopyItemsTo: #shouldGetStepsFrom: #okayToRotateEasily #blueButtonUp: #wantsToBeDroppedInto: #dropEnabled: #top #valueOfProperty:ifPresentDo: #initialize #startDrag: #relativeTextAn! 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InHand #handleMouseWheel: #shadowOffset #wrapDirectionString: #hasHalo #wantsYellowButtonMenu: #setNameTo: #hasRubberBandCellsString #buildYellowButtonMenu: #rotationCenter #viewBox #focusColor #roundedCorners: #borderWidth: #boundsInWorld #cellInset #changeMinCellSize: #minWidth #borderColor #reverseTableCells #referencePositionInWorld: #adjustedCenter #saveOnFile #boundingBoxOfSubmorphs #hasDropShadowString #useSolidFill #listSpacing #cornerStyle: #topPasteUp #addMyYellowButtonMenuItemsToSubmorphMenus #potentialTargets #allMorphsInto: #fullBoundsInWorld #enabled #transformedBy: #taskbarTask #changeMaxCellSize: #isAlignmentMorph #toggleVisibleAndRaise #wantsHaloFor: #nameForUndoWording #startSteppingIn: #yellowButtonActivity: #isDockingBar #changeProportionalLayout #isSteppingSelector: #transformFrom: #listCentering #snapToEdgeIfAppropriate #setArrowheads #wrapDirection #addMiscExtrasTo: #focusChanged #layoutProperties: #topRight: #borderStyleForSymbol: #hasTranslucentColo! r #renderedMorph #theme: #clipLayoutCells #hasDisableTableLayoutString #takesKeyboardFocus #isWorldOrHandMorph #previousMorphInWindow #bottomLeft: #boundsForBalloon #name: #hasFocus #goHome #listDirection: #windowEvent: #wantsDropFiles: #iconOrThumbnailOfSize: #localPointToGlobal: #hasRolloverBorder: #mouseUpCodeOrNil #setShadowOffset: #deleteDockingBars #topRendererOrSelf #highlightColor: #cellSpacing #isMorph #postLoad #toggleDropShadow #handlesKeyboard: #point:in: #dropFiles: #setToAdhereToEdge: #setRotationCenter #changeTableLayout #transformFromOutermostWorld #rootMorphsAt: #moveOrResizeFromKeystroke: #adjustLayoutBounds #undoMove:redo:owner:bounds:predecessor: #borderStyle #roundedCorners #canHaveFillStyles #removeMouseUpAction #doesOwnRotation #changeClipLayoutCells #initialColorInSystemWindow: #window #drawKeyboardFocusOn: #defaultTaskbarThumbnailExtent #hasReverseCellsString #optimalExtent #globalPointToLocal: #myDependents #addTableLayoutMenuItems:hand: #outermostMorphThat: #openInWindowLabeled: #preferredDuplicationHandleSelector #s! ubmorphNamed: #adhereToEdge #roundedCornersString #rubberBandCells #deleteAnyMouseActionIndicators #becomeModal #hasYellowButtonMenu #isStepping #nextMorphInWindow #boundsWithinCorners #minCellSize #griddedPoint: #permitsThumbnailing #grabTransform #addMagicHaloFor: #addCellLayoutMenuItems:hand: #clearArea #isFullOnScreen #worldBounds #flashBounds #taskThumbnailOfSize: #addMorph:asElementNumber: #referencePositionInWorld #stopSteppingSelfAndSubmorphs #beUnsticky #exportAsGIF #hasDirectionHandlesString #vResizingString: #myDependents: #bottomRight: #intersects: #paneColor: #minWidth: #paneColor #programmedMouseLeave:for: #transferStateToRenderer: #hasProportionalLayoutString #drawDropShadowOn: #wrapDirection: #cellPositioning #nextMorphWantingFocus #removeDropShadow #restoreSuspendedEventHandler #minExtent #tempCommand #prepareForScaling #useGradientFill #addLayoutMenuItems:hand: #addMouseUpActionWith: #taskbarThumbnailExtent #okayToAddDismissHandle #passivate #submorphIndex! Of: #addModelYellowButtonItemsTo:event: #navigateFocusBackward #rotati onCenter: #resistsRemoval: #paneColorOrNil #balloonColor: #hasDropShadow: #rubberBandCells: #borderStyle: #boundsIn: #layoutPolicy: #borderWidthForRounding #abandon #expandFullBoundsForDropShadow: #simplySetVisible: #shadowOffset: #toggleCornerRounding #dialogWindow #wantsKeyboardFocus #toggleLocked #focusIndicatorMorph #wantsDirectionHandles: #tabKey: #reverseTableCells: #dismissMorph #setBorderStyle: #disableDragNDrop #gridPoint: #drawOnCanvas: #isHandMorph #minHeight #assureLayoutProperties #scale: #adoptPaneColor #spaceFillWeight #topLeft: #adjustedCenter: #mainDockingBars #submorphBefore #cellPositioningString: #printStructureOn:indent: #minHeight: #privateSubmorphs: #fullCopy #changeRubberBandCells #hasDropShadow #pointInWorld: #clipLayoutCells: #colorChangedForSubmorph: #minimumExtent: #programmedMouseEnter:for: #shadowPoint: #hasClipLayoutCellsString #commandHistory #changeNoLayout #submorphNamed:ifNone: #submorphAfter #themeChanged #exploreViewHierarchy #tabAmongFie! lds #hResizing #transparentSpacerOfSize: #target: #wouldAcceptKeyboardFocusUponTab #modalUnlockFrom: #hResizing: #hasHalo: #positionSubmorphs #changeListDirection: #addMorph:after: #addMouseUpAction #wantsRoundedCorners #wantsYellowButtonMenu #addMouseActionIndicatorsWidth:color: #toggleDragNDrop #privateFullBounds #wantsToBeTopmost #changeReverseCells #listCentering: #modalLockTo: #openInWindowLabeled:inWorld: #isTextMorph #programmedMouseDown:for: #drawRolloverBorderOn: #layoutMenuPropertyString:from: #fullPrintOn: #stop #cellPositioning: #adhereToEdge: #cmdGesturesEnabled #outOfWorld: #wantsDirectionHandles #outerBounds #theme #minCellSize: #expandFullBoundsForRolloverBorder: #useDefaultFill #takeKeyboardFocus #activate #listCenteringString: #morphsInFrontOverlapping: #isTaskbar #isShared #taskbarButtonFor: #copyWithoutSubmorph: #defersHaloOnClickTo: #spaceFillWeight: #wantsToBeCachedByHand #nextMorphAcrossInWindow #clipSubmorphs #layoutInset #setRotationCenterFrom: #ima! geFormForRectangle: #isInDockingBar #changeCellInset: #preferredKeyboa rdBounds #preferredCornerStyle #taskbars #withAllOwners #menuKeyboardControl #listDirectionString: #isBalloonHelp #programmedMouseUp:for: #fillWithRamp:oriented: #vResizing #hasRolloverBorder #layoutPolicy #openModal: #removeLink: #firedMouseUpCode #ownerChanged #preferredKeyboardPosition #listSpacingString: #doCancel #morphPreceding: #privateFullBounds: #asDraggableMorph #listSpacing: #wrapCenteringString: #allNonSubmorphMorphs #addNestedYellowButtonItemsTo:event: #openInWindow #isRenderer #bounds:from: #hasTableLayoutString #defineTempCommand #potentialTargetsAt: #externalName #selectedObject #tabHitWithEvent: #privateSubmorphs #scaleFactor #navigationKey: #balloonHelpEnabled #hResizingString: #setNamePropertyTo: #maxCellSize #addFlexShell #addDropShadowMenuItems:hand: #presentHelp #layoutProperties #degreesOfFlex #setProperties: #model #outermostOwnerWithYellowButtonMenu #disableTableLayout #imageForm:backgroundColor:forRectangle: #handlerForYellowButtonDown: #screenRecta! ngle #cornerStyle #findDeeplyA: #addYellowButtonMenuItemsTo:event: #targetWith: #transformFromWorld #dragSelectionColor #modelOrNil #undoGrabCommand #isInSystemWindow #imageFormDepth: #setCenteredBalloonText: #icon #previousMorphWantingFocus #shiftSubmorphsOtherThan:by: #cellInset: #transformedFrom: #maxCellSize: #pasteUpMorphHandlingTabAmongFields #isFlexMorph #layoutInset: #defaultYellowButtonMenuEnabled #borderColor: #wantsKeyboardFocusFor: #newTransformationMorph) _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Sept. 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] about events :)

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

ok I would love to :) On Sep 19, 2010, at 3:42 PM, Juan Vuletich wrote: > StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> hi >> may be I'm wrong but I have the impression that we have around three different kinds of event system in the system >> >> - actionMap >> - announcement >> - changed: >> Could we simplify that? >> Stef >> > Yes! Kill #changed: And if you adopt announcements, kill actionMap too! > > Cheers, > Juan Vuletich > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Sept. 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] A pattern for GUI programming (Morphic, Cuis, etc)

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

thanks for the information. On Sep 19, 2010, at 3:38 PM, Juan Vuletich wrote: > StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> Juan >> >> I was looking a bit at triggerEvent: >> and I seein pharo and probably in squeak code like the following one >> >> mouseUp: anEvent >> "Change the cursor back to normal if necessary and change the color back to normal." >> >> self canResizeColumn ifFalse: [^ self]. >> (self bounds containsPoint: anEvent cursorPoint) >> ifFalse: [anEvent hand showTemporaryCursor: nil]. >> self class fastSplitterResize >> ifTrue: [self updateFromEvent: anEvent]. >> traceMorph ifNotNil: [traceMorph delete. traceMorph := nil]. >> self adoptPaneColor: self paneColor. >> self triggerEvent: #mouseUp >> >> >> So how does it fit your model? >> >> Stef >> >> > > Morphic gives a lot of freedom on what you can do. For example, you can ask a morph to be notified when the morph itself gets a mouse event. In Cuis and Squeak you can also do that. > > My "pattern for GUI programming" is implemented in the new LightWidget hierarchy. LightWidgets do not generate events like Morphs do. That's why it is a separate root class, as LightWidget is not subclass of Morph. It is to be coded in a different style. > > Morphic in Cuis does _not_ follow the "pattern for GUI programming". I hope, someday, to be able to use these rules for Morphic 3. This means that programming in Morphic 3 would be done like with LightWidgets and not like with Morphs. But Morphic 3 is far from mature enough to do this. > > This programming style could also be adopted by Pharo, either using Morphic or "SimpleMorphic" from Cuis. But this is not done. It would be a great project, though. > > Cheers, > Juan Vuletich > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Sept. 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] about events :)

by Juan Vuletich

StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > hi > > may be I'm wrong but I have the impression that we have around three different kinds of event system in the system > > - actionMap > - announcement > - changed: > > Could we simplify that? > Stef > Yes! Kill #changed: And if you adopt announcements, kill actionMap too! Cheers, Juan Vuletich

Sept. 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] A pattern for GUI programming (Morphic, Cuis, etc)

by Juan Vuletich

Noury Bouraqadi wrote: > Hi Juan, > > Is this document available somewhere on the web? It's important to ensure it is persistence. > > Noury > Hi Noury, I'm glad you're interested on it. I'll put it in a web page maybe tonight, or in my next "free evening". Cheers, Juan Vuletich

Sept. 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] A pattern for GUI programming (Morphic, Cuis, etc)

by Juan Vuletich

StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Juan > > I was looking a bit at triggerEvent: > and I seein pharo and probably in squeak code like the following one > > mouseUp: anEvent > "Change the cursor back to normal if necessary and change the color back to normal." > > self canResizeColumn ifFalse: [^ self]. > (self bounds containsPoint: anEvent cursorPoint) > ifFalse: [anEvent hand showTemporaryCursor: nil]. > self class fastSplitterResize > ifTrue: [self updateFromEvent: anEvent]. > traceMorph ifNotNil: [traceMorph delete. traceMorph := nil]. > self adoptPaneColor: self paneColor. > self triggerEvent: #mouseUp > > > So how does it fit your model? > > Stef > > Morphic gives a lot of freedom on what you can do. For example, you can ask a morph to be notified when the morph itself gets a mouse event. In Cuis and Squeak you can also do that. My "pattern for GUI programming" is implemented in the new LightWidget hierarchy. LightWidgets do not generate events like Morphs do. That's why it is a separate root class, as LightWidget is not subclass of Morph. It is to be coded in a different style. Morphic in Cuis does _not_ follow the "pattern for GUI programming". I hope, someday, to be able to use these rules for Morphic 3. This means that programming in Morphic 3 would be done like with LightWidgets and not like with Morphs. But Morphic 3 is far from mature enough to do this. This programming style could also be adopted by Pharo, either using Morphic or "SimpleMorphic" from Cuis. But this is not done. It would be a great project, though. Cheers, Juan Vuletich

Sept. 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] cog vm and copy/paste

by Norbert Hartl

On 19.09.2010, at 14:25, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > I started today using cog vm. I just downloaded the ones from Eliots site: Cog.app.tgz. I'm using it along with a 12142 core image. With this combination I don't have copy&paste. The menu is there but items are greyed out. Keyboard shortcuts don't work as well. >> >> Any hints on this? > > may be there something that changed again with the mac hst menu > have a look to see if you can reinitialize them. Don't know exactly how. I checked the vm from John. It is working with keyboard shortcuts but the menus aren't active. Doing HostSystemMenus default hostSystemProxy gives me a debugger with primGetMenuHandle: failed I don't know enough to see what is going wrong here. Norbert

Sept. 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] cog vm and copy/paste

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

thanks andreas. Could you create a bug entry with all the relevant information. Stef On Sep 19, 2010, at 2:51 PM, Andreas Wacknitz wrote: > > Am 19.09.2010 um 14:23 schrieb Norbert Hartl: > >> I started today using cog vm. I just downloaded the ones from Eliots site: Cog.app.tgz. I'm using it along with a 12142 core image. With this combination I don't have copy&paste. The menu is there but items are greyed out. Keyboard shortcuts don't work as well. >> >> Any hints on this? > > But dropping a text file into an 12142 image will give an error (see attached log file)... > <PharoDebug.log> > > > Andreas > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Sept. 19, 2010