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Re: [Pharo-project] MethodName is now Finder

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

What is important is to have a really simple and intuitive tool interface. Indeed removing the other tools may be simple. I thought the same with RecentMessage but this is not the case with the superclass. > which logic? are you talking about the new finder? how the finder is working. Right now it has several lists of symbols and they can be completely desynchronized from the methods in the system. > Now we broke method finder (snifff) because 1 . 2 . 3 does not find + > sad because I like this tool. > > but this is working on the new finder, isn't it ? Yes is does and I do not understand why :) Stef

Sept. 20, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 2984 #collect:displayingProgress: vs #do:displayingProgress: (New Inspector)

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Thanks this is an important reflex because of the volume and variety of issue. > > Turned into http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2984 >

Sept. 20, 2010

[Pharo-project] Issue 2984 #collect:displayingProgress: vs #do:displayingProgress: (New Inspector)

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

Turned into http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2984 On 06 Sep 2010, at 12:07, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > Hello, > > Is this a bug or am I looking at this the wrong way ? > > This usage of #collect:displayingProgress: works as expected: > > #(a b c d e f g) > collect: [:each | (Delay forMilliseconds: 100) wait. each ] > displayingProgress: 'Working' > > While this doesn't: > > #(a b c d e f g) > collect: [:each | (Delay forMilliseconds: 100) wait. each ] > displayingProgress: [:each | 'Collecting ', each asString] > > The similar #do:displayingProgress: does work. > It seems the index is passed into the progress block, not the element. > Maybe this is by design ? > > Sven > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Sept. 20, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] MethodName is now Finder

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:06 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > wrote: > yes > We should take the time to nuke the old tools. why we need to nuke them? we cannot directly remove them? or there are code using it? I thought only final users should use them and only from the menu. > Ideally I would like to get also the logic of the finder to be fixed > > which logic? are you talking about the new finder? > Now we broke method finder (snifff) because 1 . 2 . 3 does not find + > sad because I like this tool. > but this is working on the new finder, isn't it ? > > Stef > > On Sep 20, 2010, at 4:37 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > > > > > 2010/9/20 Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> > >> > >> > >> I have a question...for the future of Pharo 1.2....what will happen with > Method names and method finder? Will both of them removed and put instead > this new finder? > >> I ask because I wonder if we need or not to include these packages in > PharoCore... > >> So...in summary...all these changes will be part of core or is the dev > also involved? > >> > > Core for now. And not as it's own package, but as part of the Tools > package. > > > > > > Excellent. So I guess that at some point (would like to see it 1.2) when > this tool gets stable and reviewed it will be integrated and removed old > tools? > > > > mariano > > > > > > Marcus > > > > > > > > -- > > Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de > > INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Sept. 20, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] MethodName is now Finder

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

yes We should take the time to nuke the old tools. Ideally I would like to get also the logic of the finder to be fixed Now we broke method finder (snifff) because 1 . 2 . 3 does not find + sad because I like this tool. Stef On Sep 20, 2010, at 4:37 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > 2010/9/20 Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> >> >> >> I have a question...for the future of Pharo 1.2....what will happen with Method names and method finder? Will both of them removed and put instead this new finder? >> I ask because I wonder if we need or not to include these packages in PharoCore... >> So...in summary...all these changes will be part of core or is the dev also involved? >> > Core for now. And not as it's own package, but as part of the Tools package. > > > Excellent. So I guess that at some point (would like to see it 1.2) when this tool gets stable and reviewed it will be integrated and removed old tools? > > mariano > > > Marcus > > > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de > INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Sept. 20, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] cog vm and copy/paste

by John M McIntosh

The mac menu plugin was developed for os-9 and ported to os-x and uses the Carbon 1984 era api. For the V5.x series VM it was completely rewritten in Cocoa so it requires a new plugin that understands the Cocoa Menu API. That or use the Objective-C bridge... On 2010-09-20, at 7:30 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > 2010/9/20 John M McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> > No, since maybe the menu handling goes back in some day. > > > But the problem is because of CogVM or this has nothing to do? Sorry for my ignorance. > > On 2010-09-20, at 1:13 AM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > > > Thanks John, > > > > good to know. Would it be easy to remove the menu if there is no native handling available? > > > > Norbert > > > > > > > > Am 20.09.2010 um 06:32 schrieb John M McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com>: > > > >> There is no mac menu plugin, therefore no interface to the mac menu system. So instead of a AppleCmd-C being recognized as a menu event and turned into a synthetic character event for use by the event queue in the smalltalk as a AppleCmd-C, we see the AppleCmd-C in the Objective-C keyboard handler and push that up as a character event. > >> > >> On 2010-09-19, at 6:37 AM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> On 19.09.2010, at 14:25, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >>> > >>>> I started today using cog vm. I just downloaded the ones from Eliots site: Cog.app.tgz. I'm using it along with a 12142 core image. With this combination I don't have copy&paste. The menu is there but items are greyed out. Keyboard shortcuts don't work as well. > >>>>> > >>>>> Any hints on this? > >>>> > >>>> may be there something that changed again with the mac hst menu > >>>> have a look to see if you can reinitialize them. > >>> > >>> Don't know exactly how. I checked the vm from John. It is working with keyboard shortcuts but the menus aren't active. Doing > >>> > >>> HostSystemMenus default hostSystemProxy > >>> > >>> gives me a debugger with > >>> > >>> primGetMenuHandle: failed > >>> > >>> I don't know enough to see what is going wrong here. > >>> > >>> Norbert > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > >> -- > >> =========================================================================== > >> John M. McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> Twitter: squeaker68882 > >> Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com > >> =========================================================================== > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > =========================================================================== > John M. McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> Twitter: squeaker68882 > Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com > =========================================================================== > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- =========================================================================== John M. McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> Twitter: squeaker68882 Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com ===========================================================================

Sept. 20, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Custom World menu for own apps

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

this is a clear example that a good infrastructure makes your life so simple. Thanks alain Thanks torsten for the how to. On Sep 20, 2010, at 2:48 PM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > Just for the records: > > in Pharo 1.2. it is now possible to define an own custom pragma > that is used to define a world menu. This is especially usefull > when you create a (commercial) application based on Pharo. > > How it works: > ============= > > 1. Define your new world context menu by providing class methods > with your own custom world menu entries. Instead of using the > usual "worldMenu" pragma we use a custom pragma, here > "myAppWorldMenu": > > > menuCommandOn: aBuilder > <myAppWorldMenu> > (aBuilder item: #'About MyApp') > action: [ 'HelloWorld' inspect ]; > icon: ThemeIcons pharoIcon > > > 2. Switch the world state to use the custom pragram: > > WorldState desktopMenuTitle: 'My shiny App'. > WorldState desktopMenuPragmaKeyword: 'myAppWorldMenu' > > If you want the old one back just evaluate: > > WorldState desktopMenuTitle: 'World'. > WorldState desktopMenuPragmaKeyword: 'worldMenu' > > > Maybe someone can add this to the open pharo book or give me > an account, a short howto and time to include it. > -- > Neu: GMX De-Mail - Einfach wie E-Mail, sicher wie ein Brief! > Jetzt De-Mail-Adresse reservieren: http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/demail > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Sept. 20, 2010

[Pharo-project] Issue 2983: ThemeSettings>>#menuSelectionColor: should return self

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

I turned this into an issue: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2983 On 31 Aug 2010, at 17:14, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > I was playing with the new Pro theme, and this bit me hard (crashed my image several times before I found out why): > > ThemeSettings>>#menuSelectionColor: should return self not a Color, just like all other setters, > > otherwise the cascades in UITheme class>>#newDefaultSettings won't work, although a final #yourself would be good style there too. > > Sven > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Sept. 20, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Community in the IDE

by Mariano Martinez Peck

2010/9/18 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> > 2010/9/18 GÃ¶ran Krampe <goran(a)krampe.se> > > On 09/17/2010 12:58 PM, George Herolyants wrote: >> >>> Implemented in some commercial Java IDE. Never tried, but sounds great! >>> :) >>> >> >> I have thought about going further - a publish/subscribe system for >> "development events" where you decide what events you want to publish and >> what you want to receive. Then you could get immediate feedback if someone >> *right now* is modifying a class you wrote, or if someone is publishing a >> new version of a package you are using etc etc. >> > > I like the idea. > > Do someone know a working IRC client (or have the courage to don his > superhero costume and make it working to save our lives :) on Pharo ? So we > can use #pharo-project channel on irc.freenode.net. > I know there was. I think Edgar use to have it in SqueakFUn or similar....not sure where, maybe this: http://map.squeak.org/package/895674d5-0063-49f9-890d-03a69d45b157 http://squeak.preeminent.org/irc-help/irc-help.html > > Cheers, > > Laurent Laffont > > http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/ > http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ > > > > >> >> regards, GÃ¶ran >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Sept. 20, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] HwaJong Oh

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

+1 Yes carla now you can smile On Sep 20, 2010, at 2:55 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > 2010/9/20 ë¬ë£ì¤íì¢ <daliot.oh(a)gmail.com>: >> Hi, >> >> i joined this mailinglist. >> >> I am Korean Hobby Smalltalker first time Europe first time ESUG. >> >> Hope you remember me. >> >> - HwaJong - >> > > HwaJong , could you add your name written in latin letters to your > email address, > because i don't have a Korean font , and i guess many of others too, so > your name is shown as a 5 glyph boxes with numbers :) > > Oh, and please, write something about yourself - the projects you did or doing, > because not all of people here was on conference. > And if you wanna participate in Pharo development or have some ideas, > feel free to > put them here or ask questions. > >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Sept. 20, 2010