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Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Hackers wanted - Zinc HTTP Components

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

It seems that we will have a cool chapter for pharo by example 2 I love that. I will learn something... and have fun. Stef On Sep 24, 2010, at 12:18 PM, laurent laffont wrote: > http://homepage.mac.com/svc/Zinc-HTTP-Components/getting-started.html

Sept. 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Hackers wanted - Zinc HTTP Components

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

thanks **a lot** sven. We appreciated this effort and I hope that we will be able to replace some of the code in the environment with yours. Stef On Sep 24, 2010, at 11:46 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > Fellow Pharoers, > > HTTP is arguably the most important and most widely used networking protocol. It is paramount for any programming environment to have a good implementation of this protocol. Sadly, the current one in HTTPSocket is incomplete and of low quality. Furthermore, an HTTP implementation in Smalltalk should be clear enough so that others can understand it, learn from it and extend it. > > Zinc HTTP Components is an attempt at filling this gap. Started September 1st and currently under development, it is an open source, MIT licensed, open development Smalltalk framework to deal with the HTTP protocol. Please have a look at it, please help make this something we can be proud of. > > http://www.squeaksource.com/ZincHTTPComponents.html > > http://homepage.mac.com/svc/Zinc-HTTP-Components/index.html > > http://homepage.mac.com/svc/Zinc-HTTP-Components/getting-started.html > > Check out what works today (Status) and what still needs to be done (Todo). HTTP is fun, relatively easy and is something every programmer should understand, I hope that Zinc HTTP Components can make a difference here. > > Sven > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Sept. 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Launching class form command line ...

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Thanks David but It is defined in SmalltalkImage same implementation >>>>>> > argumentAt: i > "Answer the i-th argument of the command line, or nil if not so many argument." > ^self getSystemAttribute: 2 + i > > Dave > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Sept. 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] How i can sorting category in the system browser

by Bart Gauquie

I've noticed, that if you only have some to sort, you can just drag the categories. The category being dropped gets insert under the one you've dropped it. I'm using Pharo 1.1 for this ... Regards, Bart On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu>wrote: > Hi Dario, > > If you update OB, you will find the command 'promote category'. > I personally cannot use OB without it. > > Alexandre > > > On 24 Sep 2010, at 09:22, Dario Trussardi wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > a stupid question: > > > > i work with: > > > > Pharo-1.0 > > Latest update: #10517 > > > > > > > > I'm interested to sorting the category in the system browser based on > the relative name. > > > > In the browser i select the menu command reorganize > category but don't do anything. > > > > Any idea ? > > > > > > Thank, > > > > Dario > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- imagination is more important than knowledge - Albert Einstein Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere - Albert Einstein Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is not to stop questioning. - Albert Einstein The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination. - Albert Einstein However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results. - Sir Winston Churchill It's not enough that we do our best; sometimes we have to do what's required. - Sir Winston Churchill

Sept. 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] TextLint questions and feedback

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Jorge Ressia <jorge.ressia(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Ok, Done. > > There is a new rule called TLConnectorRepetitionInParagraphRule, it is > going to be in the style by default. > It performs the analysis on each paragraph unit. > > Excellent. I have just updated, thanks Jorge :) Last comment, the File Dialog to open the directory is TOO small. And it doesn't seem even be ablo to resize it and make it bigger. I tried to take a look but I get lost, sorry. Cheers Mariano > Cheers, > > > On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 9:00 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck > <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 8:07 PM, Jorge Ressia <jorge.ressia(a)gmail.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> Hi Mariano, > >> > >> We are very happy that you found TextLint that useful. As you might > >> have noticed we fixed several of your reported issues and we are still > >> working on the remaining ones. > > > > yes, thanks a lot :) > > > >> > >> 1.- Not difficult. Could you specify how this rule would work? how > >> many sentences should we take into account? Perhaps a whole paragraph. > >> You might find the rule TLWordRepetitionInParagraphRule, which is > >> already in TextLint useful, it detects the repetition of words in a > >> paragraphs. If the Word is used more than 3 times then the rule fails. > >> This will include the connectors that you mentioned. If you required a > >> repetition rule a little more strict you can always use this rule as a > >> basis for defining your new rule. We will be more that happy to > >> integrate it :) > > > > Maybe the rule can be very similar to the one you say. My scenario is the > > following: several times I need connectors or things like: > > "However, In contrast to, In adddition, Furthermore, On the other hand, > > Still, Furthermore, Nevertheless, etc....". > > And then I need one of them, I usually have to check near that place > where I > > need it, if I have already use one of them. I check in the same paragraph > or > > just near. > > > > So a rule can be something like TLWordRepetitionInParagraphRule but: > > > > - I wouldn't like to repeated even twice (not 3!!). I just want them only > > once in the near text > > > > - I wouldn't do it for ALL words, only for those kind of words > > > > - I would check in the same paragraph or maybe 10 (15, or 20) lines > before > > and after the place. > > > > > >> > >> 2.- The objective behind "Do not join sentences with commas " is > >> simplicity. If you have a sentence with a single comma you might be > >> expressing two different things and divide them in two sentences might > >> be good. On the other hand, if you still want to keep your sentence > >> together this rule might signal that it might be a way of avoiding the > >> use of the coma and using some meaningful connector. > >> In any case, I agree that this rule is spotted several times in the > >> most text and TextLint users might feel reluctant to look into it. > >> We have planned to look into it. > >> But in many cases it has been quite useful for me. > >> > > > > Thanks for the explanantion Jorge. > > > > Mariano > > > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck > >> <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> > Ok....I am using TextLint for all my papers now :) > >> > > >> > Few more things: > >> > > >> > 1) It would be awesome a rule that detects duplication of connectors > in > >> > a > >> > near area. For example, if I use connectors like "However, > Nevertheless, > >> > Hence, On the contrary, One the other hand, etc..." it would be nice > a > >> > rule > >> > that detects that you already use the same connector some lines > >> > before/after > >> > a specific one... > >> > > >> > 2) I don't understand the rule: "Do not join sentences with commas ". > >> > Is > >> > this working well ? I have these phrases for example: > >> > > >> > > >> > - To support automatic memory management, most object oriented systems > >> > are > >> > based on garbage collectors (GC) \cite{Jone96a}. > >> > > >> > - In class-based object-oriented languages, information about class > >> > usage is > >> > needed. > >> > > >> > - For this we use Distribution Map, a visualization showing spread and > >> > focus > >> > of properties across systems. > >> > > >> > I think the "comma" there are correct. Maybe I am wrong. > >> > > >> > Thanks > >> > > >> > mariano > >> > > >> > > >> > On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 9:34 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck > >> > <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Jorge Ressia <jorge.ressia(a)gmail.com > > > >> >> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> Hi, > >> >>> > >> >>> So > >> >> > >> >> I have just sent you by private email the .tex. > >> >> > >> >>> > >> >>> 1) Could not reproduce > >> >>> > >> >> > >> >> Should be reproducable with my .tex > >> >> > >> >>> > >> >>> 2) > >> >>> 2.a) Working on that > >> >>> 2.b) Could not reproduce > >> >>> > >> >> > >> >> me neither. Did you check if you are using a Set for the collection? > >> >> > >> >>> > >> >>> 3) It is hard to achieve, we still have it in the todo list. > >> >> > >> >> Yes, I imagined ;) > >> >> > >> >>> > >> >>> 4) Could not reproduce > >> >>> > >> >> > >> >> Should be reproducable with my .tex > >> >> > >> >>> > >> >>> 5) Fixed > >> >>> > >> >>> 6) Checking > >> >>> > >> >> > >> >> excellent :) > >> >> > >> >>> > >> >>> It would be cool if we could have a look at your file so we can have > a > >> >>> better way of debugging these issues. > >> >>> > >> >> > >> >> Done :) > >> >> > >> >>> > >> >>> Thanks > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 6:54 PM, Jorge Ressia < > jorge.ressia(a)gmail.com> > >> >>> wrote: > >> >>> > Hi Mariano, > >> >>> > > >> >>> > Thanks for trying TextLint out and for the feedback. > >> >>> > > >> >>> > We will look into your issues and try to figure out a solution. > >> >>> > > >> >>> > If you have a draft of your text with these occurrences please > send > >> >>> > it > >> >>> > to us. You can remove the text that is not relevant. > >> >>> > > >> >>> > Cheers, > >> >>> > > >> >>> > Jorge > >> >>> > > >> >>> > 2010/9/2 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: > >> >>> >> Hi. First, please let me know if this is the correct place to > talk > >> >>> >> about > >> >>> >> TextLint. I've just used for one paper I am writing and I have > some > >> >>> >> questions/feedback. I am using the one click image. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> 1) The "An Rule" could be a little more smart and detects > commands. > >> >>> >> For > >> >>> >> example, in my latex I have " an \emph{inner object}" and that > was > >> >>> >> detected > >> >>> >> by the rule, althought I shouldn't. So...detecting the slash and > >> >>> >> ignore what > >> >>> >> it surrounded by {} would be nice for this rule. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> 2) When I edit the code inside TextLint and I save it, two bad > >> >>> >> things > >> >>> >> happens: > >> >>> >> 2.a) I lost focus of the text, as it moves when it > finishing > >> >>> >> saving. > >> >>> >> The line I edited goes to the end of the text area. It would be > >> >>> >> great > >> >>> >> if > >> >>> >> nothing moves nor to loose focus when saving. > >> >>> >> 2.b) sometimes (I cannot reproduce) the order of the rules > >> >>> >> changes...and this is not good because I was going in order, one > by > >> >>> >> one, and > >> >>> >> suddenly they are re-ordered. Maybe you are using a Set for that? > >> >>> >> using a > >> >>> >> simple OrderedCollection could help. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> 3) If you edit the text (and it differs in the amount of > >> >>> >> characters), > >> >>> >> and DO > >> >>> >> NOT save it, the following color highlighting are moved. It seems > >> >>> >> you > >> >>> >> keep > >> >>> >> the position in the file, and until it is saved, rules results > are > >> >>> >> pointing > >> >>> >> to "unupdated" file. Of course, when I save the file, they are > >> >>> >> correct. I > >> >>> >> guess this is from a performance point of view, but maybe you > have > >> >>> >> a > >> >>> >> little > >> >>> >> hack to do and make it better. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> 4) The rule "no white space before punctuation mark" showed me > >> >>> >> things > >> >>> >> I > >> >>> >> didn't understand. For example, it says this line there is a "," > >> >>> >> (comma) : > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> \item[ Shared object ] In the case of the \emph{shared > objects}, > >> >>> >> it > >> >>> >> is > >> >>> >> almost the same as in the \emph{inner objects}. An ..... > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> >> 5) Rules comments clearer. For example, when you say "Avoid using > a > >> >>> >> lot, it > >> >>> >> weakens the sentence" It would be better to put "Avoid using "a > >> >>> >> lot", > >> >>> >> it > >> >>> >> weakens the sentence" > >> >>> >> or "Avoid using *a lot*, it weakens the sentence" > >> >>> >> or something to clearly mark the words not to use. Because > >> >>> >> sometimes > >> >>> >> the > >> >>> >> words are confused with the context. Or this one: > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> "After an only words beginning with a vowel are allowed. " > >> >>> >> should be "After "an" only words beginning with a vowel are > >> >>> >> allowed." > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> 6) For the rules of long sentences/paragraph it would be nice to > >> >>> >> ignore > >> >>> >> \fotenote{} > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> 7) Maybe this link is of interest for you: > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > http://matt.might.net/articles/shell-scripts-for-passive-voice-weasel-words… > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Apart from all these things, the tool is very useful and I like > it. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> thanks > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Mariano > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >>> >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> >>> >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> >>> >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> >>> >> > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > -- > >> >>> > Jorge Ressia > >> >>> > www.jorgeressia.com > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> -- > >> >>> Jorge Ressia > >> >>> www.jorgeressia.com > >> >>> > >> >>> _______________________________________________ > >> >>> Pharo-project mailing list > >> >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Jorge Ressia > >> www.jorgeressia.com > > > > > > > > -- > Jorge Ressia > www.jorgeressia.com >

Sept. 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] How i can sorting category in the system browser

by Alexandre Bergel

Hi Dario, If you update OB, you will find the command 'promote category'. I personally cannot use OB without it. Alexandre On 24 Sep 2010, at 09:22, Dario Trussardi wrote: > Hi, > > a stupid question: > > i work with: > > Pharo-1.0 > Latest update: #10517 > > > > I'm interested to sorting the category in the system browser based on the relative name. > > In the browser i select the menu command reorganize category but don't do anything. > > Any idea ? > > > Thank, > > Dario > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Sept. 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] How i can sorting category in the system browser

by Mariano Martinez Peck

This is a bit shitty for me. You can try to evaluate: "Smalltalk organization sortCategories." Or....from OB right click, "Reorganize category" as you said...but you should see in the code panel all the list of categories...then you can reorder by hand and save it (I think, maybe I am wrong) cheers mariano On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Dario Trussardi <dario.trussardi(a)tiscali.it > wrote: > Hi, > > a stupid question: > > i work with: > > Pharo-1.0 > Latest update: #10517 > > > > I'm interested to sorting the category in the system browser based on the > relative name. > > In the browser i select the menu command reorganize > category but don't do anything. > > Any idea ? > > > Thank, > > Dario > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Sept. 24, 2010

[Pharo-project] How i can sorting category in the system browser

by Dario Trussardi

Hi, a stupid question: i work with: Pharo-1.0 Latest update: #10517 I'm interested to sorting the category in the system browser based on the relative name. In the browser i select the menu command reorganize category but don't do anything. Any idea ? Thank, Dario

Sept. 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Morphic

by Hannes Hirzel

On 9/23/10, Levente Uzonyi <leves(a)elte.hu> wrote: > On Thu, 23 Sep 2010, Hannes Hirzel wrote: > >>> >>> Why can't we have stuff from Sophie back to Squeak/Pharo? >>> - only the Sophie developers are familiar with the code and they are not >>> motivated enough to extract it >> >> Not necessarily their task..... :-) > > That's right, but tell me who else is up to the task? > >> Writing libraries and reusable components is a different project. >> >>> - the license is BSD, so the code can't be included in Pharo/Squeak >> >> I googled for >> BSD MIT license compatibility >> >> and found some interesting information >> >> see for example >> http://www.dwheeler.com/essays/floss-license-slide.html >> >> the paragraph about BSD in >> http://producingoss.com/en/license-choosing.html >> >> The license might be compatible depending on the "version" of the BSD >> license. And if not you could extract code and then ask the developers >> to release it as MIT. >> >> MIT and BSD are very close (or the same depending on the version) >> >> To summarize: The statement >> >> "the license is BSD, so the code can't be included in Pharo/Squeak" >> >> is too strong. There might be some problems including code, but they >> may be solved easily with by writing a few emails.... > > The license is the 3-clause BSD license, it contains the following > non-endorsement clause: > > "Neither the name of the University of Southern California, Los Angeles > nor the names of its contributors may be used to endorse or promote > products derived from this software without specific prior written > permission." I would say it means you cannot use University of Southern California, Los Angeles for advertising your software. Or maybe in addition the Sophie developers? > I wonder what can be done about this. Carve out the pieces we think are useful and ask the Sophie developers to re-license it as MIT. That would be on the safe side. HJH > > Levente > >> >> >> --Hannes >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Sept. 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Hackers wanted - Zinc HTTP Components

by Levente Uzonyi

On Fri, 24 Sep 2010, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > Fellow Pharoers, > > HTTP is arguably the most important and most widely used networking protocol. It is paramount for any programming environment to have a good implementation of this protocol. Sadly, the current one in HTTPSocket is incomplete and of low quality. Furthermore, an HTTP implementation in Smalltalk should be clear enough so that others can understand it, learn from it and extend it. > > Zinc HTTP Components is an attempt at filling this gap. Started September 1st and currently under development, it is an open source, MIT licensed, open development Smalltalk framework to deal with the HTTP protocol. Please have a look at it, please help make this something we can be proud of. > > http://www.squeaksource.com/ZincHTTPComponents.html > > http://homepage.mac.com/svc/Zinc-HTTP-Components/index.html > > http://homepage.mac.com/svc/Zinc-HTTP-Components/getting-started.html > > Check out what works today (Status) and what still needs to be done (Todo). HTTP is fun, relatively easy and is something every programmer should understand, I hope that Zinc HTTP Components can make a difference here. What are the pros/cons compared to WebClient? Is it/will it be compatible with Squeak? What's the difference between Zinc-HTTP-New* and Zinc-HTTP-Old*? Levente > > Sven > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Sept. 24, 2010