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Re: [Pharo-project] PharoKernel #12217

by Pavel Krivanek

Hi, a good new, Gofer works fine for me :-) ...and test results for kernel, network, Monticello and Gofer are quite good. On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 5:52 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > On Oct 28, 2010, at 5:05 PM, Pavel Krivanek wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I uploaded a new version of PharoKernel. It has several new properties: >> - better scripts processing >> - separate dictionaries for images, scripts, reports and downloaded packages >> - It is able to load Network, Monticello and Gopher (image included), >> however it needs some next fixes to work properly >> - ImageMap and ImageGraph included in the archive >> >> https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/27699/PharoKernel-1.2-12217.zip >> >> The most important thing that should be done in Pharo is to split >> Tests package to be able to load Monticello tests separately. > > Yes > and that they follow the pattern > >> If Monticello and Gofer will work well then it should be quite simple >> to prepare PharoCore Configuration to load the rest of PharoCore. > > Yes this is the vision but now our problem is to port our integration process to it. > We will certainly changes it anyway because it slows us down (does not scale) but it requires to have a good alternative. Well, Configurations were always suspicious to me - they do not even share a common superclass :-) -- Pavel > > Stef >

Oct. 28, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Sharing a image between several computers

by Alexandre Bergel

> I've been programming in Smalltalk/Pharo for a time, and it is really nice (I love it). Cool!!!! Spread the word among the students at the DCC :-) Alexandre > Usually, I work with several images at my work and home. I share those images using dropbox. However it is not practical, if your images size are 100+ MB (because dropbox is synchronizing each time that you save). > > So I was wondering If you use a more practical software to share your images between several computers. > > Greetings > Oscar > > > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Oct. 28, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Sharing a image between several computers

by Steven Baker

I don't copy images, I put everything in Monticello and share the code. But I'd still like to hear what everyone else's workflow is. -Steven On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Oscar E A Callau <oalvarez(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: > Hi all, > > Â Â Â I've been programming in Smalltalk/Pharo for a time, and it is really nice (I love it). Usually, I work with several images at my work and home. I share those images using dropbox. However it is not practical, if your images size are 100+ MB (because dropbox is synchronizing each time that you save). > > So I was wondering If you use a more practical software to share your images between several computers. > > Greetings > Â Â Â Â Oscar > > > >

Oct. 28, 2010

[Pharo-project] Sharing a image between several computers

by Oscar E A Callau

Hi all, I've been programming in Smalltalk/Pharo for a time, and it is really nice (I love it). Usually, I work with several images at my work and home. I share those images using dropbox. However it is not practical, if your images size are 100+ MB (because dropbox is synchronizing each time that you save). So I was wondering If you use a more practical software to share your images between several computers. Greetings Oscar

Oct. 28, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] GraphViz in pharo

by David T. Lewis

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:10:05PM +0200, Levente Uzonyi wrote: > On Thu, 28 Oct 2010, Guillermo Polito wrote: > > >Hi! I downloaded Graphviz yesterday in my ubuntu machine using pharo 1.1.1 > >with cog, and graphviz worked very well :). > > > >Today I'm using a pharo 1.1 image and 4.0.2 VM on windows machine and I > >can't make it work :(. > > > >Graphviz needs OSProcess and CommandShell. I downloaded them, but there > >are > >some problems: > > > >- For windows it uses Win32Shell, which isn't in my Pharo Image of course > >:P. So I replaced it by CommandShell but it is still failing. > > Win32Shell is in FFI. CommandShell doesn't work on windows. If you want to > use pipes instead of files for input/output on windows, then try > ProcessWrapper. GraphViz used to run on Windows by writing and reading temporary files. On Unix/Mac it used OSProcess/CommandShell. I do not know the current status of GraphViz, but I would expect that it would be possible to at least get a file-based version working. ProcessWrapper would be better if someone has done the work for that. Dave > > Btw there's a fork of Graphviz in Gjallar's repository: > http://mc.gjallar.se if someone is interested. > > >- I'm trying to use CommandShell on its own, but I have the folowing > >result: > > > >*$ ls > >cannot access system to run 'ls'* > > > >GraphViz was adapted to pharo this year on June by "SR". ?Does someone > >know > >who's him or her? ?Can someone send me a tip? > > SR is probably Stefan Reichhart. > > > Levente > > > > >Thanks! > >Guille > >

Oct. 28, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] GraphViz in pharo

by Levente Uzonyi

On Thu, 28 Oct 2010, Guillermo Polito wrote: > Hi! I downloaded Graphviz yesterday in my ubuntu machine using pharo 1.1.1 > with cog, and graphviz worked very well :). > > Today I'm using a pharo 1.1 image and 4.0.2 VM on windows machine and I > can't make it work :(. > > Graphviz needs OSProcess and CommandShell. I downloaded them, but there are > some problems: > > - For windows it uses Win32Shell, which isn't in my Pharo Image of course > :P. So I replaced it by CommandShell but it is still failing. Win32Shell is in FFI. CommandShell doesn't work on windows. If you want to use pipes instead of files for input/output on windows, then try ProcessWrapper. Btw there's a fork of Graphviz in Gjallar's repository: http://mc.gjallar.se if someone is interested. > - I'm trying to use CommandShell on its own, but I have the folowing result: > > *$ ls > cannot access system to run 'ls'* > > GraphViz was adapted to pharo this year on June by "SR". ?Does someone know > who's him or her? ?Can someone send me a tip? SR is probably Stefan Reichhart. Levente > > Thanks! > Guille >

Oct. 28, 2010

[Pharo-project] GraphViz in pharo

by Guillermo Polito

Hi! I downloaded Graphviz yesterday in my ubuntu machine using pharo 1.1.1 with cog, and graphviz worked very well :). Today I'm using a pharo 1.1 image and 4.0.2 VM on windows machine and I can't make it work :(. Graphviz needs OSProcess and CommandShell. I downloaded them, but there are some problems: - For windows it uses Win32Shell, which isn't in my Pharo Image of course :P. So I replaced it by CommandShell but it is still failing. - I'm trying to use CommandShell on its own, but I have the folowing result: *$ ls cannot access system to run 'ls'* GraphViz was adapted to pharo this year on June by "SR". Â¿Does someone know who's him or her? Â¿Can someone send me a tip? Thanks! Guille

Oct. 28, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Noobie Browser question

by Mariano Martinez Peck

There is a special image for the PBE book. You should use THAT image. I think you can download from the PBE website. cheers mariano On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 12:38 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Tony this is not that simple. We hope in the future to have an > infrastructure that lets us build better > tools. Now I'm sure that if you help a community you will learn fast. > I started doing simple bug fixes reviews long time ago :) > > > > On Oct 27, 2010, at 11:40 PM, Tony Fleig wrote: > > > StÃ©phane, > > > > Thanks for the response. > > > > I am sad to see features eliminated for this reason. If I were a more > experienced Smalltalk programmer I would volunteer to maintain it myself. > > > > TF > > > > On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 12:56 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < > stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > > > On Oct 27, 2010, at 8:19 PM, Tony Fleig wrote: > > > > > The Browser in Pharo Core and Pharo One-Click doesn't appear to have > the features described in the Pharo By Example book in chapter 6. In > particular, there is no History bar at the top. Clicking on the gray lozenge > at the upper right of the browser window gives me the option of selecting > the Browser or OBSystemBrowserAdaptor, neither of which seems to have the > features shown in the book. > > > > > > Is there somewhere I can get the OmniBrowser described in the book, or > has it been replaced with what appears to be a less-functional version? > > > > for the moment it has been donwgraded because of lack of maintainers. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > TF > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Pharo-project mailing list > > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > >

Oct. 28, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] SecurityManager

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

No idea :) And indeed we should reevaluate that kind of code. Stef > Hello, > > I found strage behavior around SecurityManager. > > First, why security manager loads some secury keys at system start up? > > SecurityManager>>startUp > "Attempt to load existing keys" > self loadSecurityKeys. > (privateKeyPair == nil > and:[self isInRestrictedMode not > and:[self automaticKeyGeneration]]) ifTrue:[ > self generateKeyPairInBackground. > ]. > > Second, I found bug (maybe) > > When I on WindowsXP under user with russion name SecurityManager>>loadSecurityKeys failed. > Reason is SecurityManager>>primSecureUserDirectory returns abracadabra system path. I inspect it. It is not utf string, It is CP1251 encoded string. > And when I change method to not encode pathname > > secureUserDirectory > "SecurityManager default secureUserDirectory" > | dir | > dir := self primSecureUserDirectory. > ^ dir > ifNil: [FileDirectory default pathName] > ifNotNil: [(FilePath pathName: dir isEncoded: true) asSqueakPathName] > > to > > secureUserDirectory > "SecurityManager default secureUserDirectory" > | dir | > dir := self primSecureUserDirectory. > ^ dir > ifNil: [FileDirectory default pathName] > ifNotNil: [(FilePath pathName: dir isEncoded: false) asSqueakPathName] > > System started without failures. > > What I corrupt in system behavior with this changes? > > And most interesting question. Why all this SecurityManager stuff needed for system start up process? > > Best regards, > Denis > > >

Oct. 28, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] PharoKernel #12217

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Oct 28, 2010, at 5:05 PM, Pavel Krivanek wrote: > Hi, > > I uploaded a new version of PharoKernel. It has several new properties: > - better scripts processing > - separate dictionaries for images, scripts, reports and downloaded packages > - It is able to load Network, Monticello and Gopher (image included), > however it needs some next fixes to work properly > - ImageMap and ImageGraph included in the archive > > https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/27699/PharoKernel-1.2-12217.zip > > The most important thing that should be done in Pharo is to split > Tests package to be able to load Monticello tests separately. Yes and that they follow the pattern > If Monticello and Gofer will work well then it should be quite simple > to prepare PharoCore Configuration to load the rest of PharoCore. Yes this is the vision but now our problem is to port our integration process to it. We will certainly changes it anyway because it slows us down (does not scale) but it requires to have a good alternative. Stef

Oct. 28, 2010