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roundUpTo:? truncatedTo:

by Stephane Ducasse

Hi I'm working on improving the number of named colors we have. I got this list And I did the following to convert numbers to float and I want to keep only max three decimal Now I do not get 0.9420000000001 roundUpTo: 0.001 and the same truncatedTo: 0.001 do not work list collect: [ :each | | split color name | split := Character tab split: each. color := Character space split: (split at: 1). color := color select: [ :c| c isNotEmpty ]. color := color collect: [ :c | (c asInteger / 255) asFloat roundUpTo: 0.001 ]. name := split at: 3. {name asSymbol. color asArray} ] as: Array (Character cr split: '255 250 250 snow 248 248 255 ghost white 248 248 255 GhostWhite 245 245 245 white smoke 245 245 245 WhiteSmoke 220 220 220 gainsboro 255 250 240 floral white 255 250 240 FloralWhite 253 245 230 old lace 253 245 230 OldLace 250 240 230 linen 250 235 215 antique white 250 235 215 AntiqueWhite 255 239 213 papaya whip 255 239 213 PapayaWhip 255 235 205 blanched almond 255 235 205 BlanchedAlmond 255 228 196 bisque 255 218 185 peach puff 255 218 185 PeachPuff 255 222 173 navajo white 255 222 173 NavajoWhite 255 228 181 moccasin 255 248 220 cornsilk 255 255 240 ivory 255 250 205 lemon chiffon 255 250 205 LemonChiffon 255 245 238 seashell 240 255 240 honeydew 245 255 250 mint cream 245 255 250 MintCream 240 255 255 azure 240 248 255 alice blue 240 248 255 AliceBlue 230 230 250 lavender 255 240 245 lavender blush 255 240 245 LavenderBlush 255 228 225 misty rose 255 228 225 MistyRose 255 255 255 white 0 0 0 black 47 79 79 dark slate gray 47 79 79 DarkSlateGray 47 79 79 dark slate grey 47 79 79 DarkSlateGrey 105 105 105 dim gray 105 105 105 DimGray 105 105 105 dim grey 105 105 105 DimGrey 112 128 144 slate gray 112 128 144 SlateGray 112 128 144 slate grey 112 128 144 SlateGrey 119 136 153 light slate gray 119 136 153 LightSlateGray 119 136 153 light slate grey 119 136 153 LightSlateGrey 190 190 190 gray 190 190 190 grey 211 211 211 light grey 211 211 211 LightGrey 211 211 211 light gray 211 211 211 LightGray 25 25 112 midnight blue 25 25 112 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144 255 DodgerBlue1 28 134 238 DodgerBlue2 24 116 205 DodgerBlue3 16 78 139 DodgerBlue4 99 184 255 SteelBlue1 92 172 238 SteelBlue2 79 148 205 SteelBlue3 54 100 139 SteelBlue4 0 191 255 DeepSkyBlue1 0 178 238 DeepSkyBlue2 0 154 205 DeepSkyBlue3 0 104 139 DeepSkyBlue4 135 206 255 SkyBlue1 126 192 238 SkyBlue2 108 166 205 SkyBlue3 74 112 139 SkyBlue4 176 226 255 LightSkyBlue1 164 211 238 LightSkyBlue2 141 182 205 LightSkyBlue3 96 123 139 LightSkyBlue4 198 226 255 SlateGray1 185 211 238 SlateGray2 159 182 205 SlateGray3 108 123 139 SlateGray4 202 225 255 LightSteelBlue1 188 210 238 LightSteelBlue2 162 181 205 LightSteelBlue3 110 123 139 LightSteelBlue4 191 239 255 LightBlue1 178 223 238 LightBlue2 154 192 205 LightBlue3 104 131 139 LightBlue4 224 255 255 LightCyan1 209 238 238 LightCyan2 180 205 205 LightCyan3 122 139 139 LightCyan4 187 255 255 PaleTurquoise1 174 238 238 PaleTurquoise2 150 205 205 PaleTurquoise3 102 139 139 PaleTurquoise4 152 245 255 CadetBlue1 142 229 238 CadetBlue2 122 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255 112 DarkOliveGreen1 188 238 104 DarkOliveGreen2 162 205 90 DarkOliveGreen3 110 139 61 DarkOliveGreen4 255 246 143 khaki1 238 230 133 khaki2 205 198 115 khaki3 139 134 78 khaki4 255 236 139 LightGoldenrod1 238 220 130 LightGoldenrod2 205 190 112 LightGoldenrod3 139 129 76 LightGoldenrod4 255 255 224 LightYellow1 238 238 209 LightYellow2 205 205 180 LightYellow3 139 139 122 LightYellow4 255 255 0 yellow1 238 238 0 yellow2 205 205 0 yellow3 139 139 0 yellow4 255 215 0 gold1 238 201 0 gold2 205 173 0 gold3 139 117 0 gold4 255 193 37 goldenrod1 238 180 34 goldenrod2 205 155 29 goldenrod3 139 105 20 goldenrod4 255 185 15 DarkGoldenrod1 238 173 14 DarkGoldenrod2 205 149 12 DarkGoldenrod3 139 101 8 DarkGoldenrod4 255 193 193 RosyBrown1 238 180 180 RosyBrown2 205 155 155 RosyBrown3 139 105 105 RosyBrown4 255 106 106 IndianRed1 238 99 99 IndianRed2 205 85 85 IndianRed3 139 58 58 IndianRed4 255 130 71 sienna1 238 121 66 sienna2 205 104 57 sienna3 139 71 38 sienna4 255 211 155 burlywood1 238 197 145 burlywood2 205 170 125 burlywood3 139 115 85 burlywood4 255 231 186 wheat1 238 216 174 wheat2 205 186 150 wheat3 139 126 102 wheat4 255 165 79 tan1 238 154 73 tan2 205 133 63 tan3 139 90 43 tan4 255 127 36 chocolate1 238 118 33 chocolate2 205 102 29 chocolate3 139 69 19 chocolate4 255 48 48 firebrick1 238 44 44 firebrick2 205 38 38 firebrick3 139 26 26 firebrick4 255 64 64 brown1 238 59 59 brown2 205 51 51 brown3 139 35 35 brown4 255 140 105 salmon1 238 130 98 salmon2 205 112 84 salmon3 139 76 57 salmon4 255 160 122 LightSalmon1 238 149 114 LightSalmon2 205 129 98 LightSalmon3 139 87 66 LightSalmon4 255 165 0 orange1 238 154 0 orange2 205 133 0 orange3 139 90 0 orange4 255 127 0 DarkOrange1 238 118 0 DarkOrange2 205 102 0 DarkOrange3 139 69 0 DarkOrange4 255 114 86 coral1 238 106 80 coral2 205 91 69 coral3 139 62 47 coral4 255 99 71 tomato1 238 92 66 tomato2 205 79 57 tomato3 139 54 38 tomato4 255 69 0 OrangeRed1 238 64 0 OrangeRed2 205 55 0 OrangeRed3 139 37 0 OrangeRed4 255 0 0 red1 238 0 0 red2 205 0 0 red3 139 0 0 red4 255 20 147 DeepPink1 238 18 137 DeepPink2 205 16 118 DeepPink3 139 10 80 DeepPink4 255 110 180 HotPink1 238 106 167 HotPink2 205 96 144 HotPink3 139 58 98 HotPink4 255 181 197 pink1 238 169 184 pink2 205 145 158 pink3 139 99 108 pink4 255 174 185 LightPink1 238 162 173 LightPink2 205 140 149 LightPink3 139 95 101 LightPink4 255 130 171 PaleVioletRed1 238 121 159 PaleVioletRed2 205 104 137 PaleVioletRed3 139 71 93 PaleVioletRed4 255 52 179 maroon1 238 48 167 maroon2 205 41 144 maroon3 139 28 98 maroon4 255 62 150 VioletRed1 238 58 140 VioletRed2 205 50 120 VioletRed3 139 34 82 VioletRed4 255 0 255 magenta1 238 0 238 magenta2 205 0 205 magenta3 139 0 139 magenta4 255 131 250 orchid1 238 122 233 orchid2 205 105 201 orchid3 139 71 137 orchid4 255 187 255 plum1 238 174 238 plum2 205 150 205 plum3 139 102 139 plum4 224 102 255 MediumOrchid1 209 95 238 MediumOrchid2 180 82 205 MediumOrchid3 122 55 139 MediumOrchid4 191 62 255 DarkOrchid1 178 58 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grey77 199 199 199 gray78 199 199 199 grey78 201 201 201 gray79 201 201 201 grey79 204 204 204 gray80 204 204 204 grey80 207 207 207 gray81 207 207 207 grey81 209 209 209 gray82 209 209 209 grey82 212 212 212 gray83 212 212 212 grey83 214 214 214 gray84 214 214 214 grey84 217 217 217 gray85 217 217 217 grey85 219 219 219 gray86 219 219 219 grey86 222 222 222 gray87 222 222 222 grey87 224 224 224 gray88 224 224 224 grey88 227 227 227 gray89 227 227 227 grey89 229 229 229 gray90 229 229 229 grey90 232 232 232 gray91 232 232 232 grey91 235 235 235 gray92 235 235 235 grey92 237 237 237 gray93 237 237 237 grey93 240 240 240 gray94 240 240 240 grey94 242 242 242 gray95 242 242 242 grey95 245 245 245 gray96 245 245 245 grey96 247 247 247 gray97 247 247 247 grey97 250 250 250 gray98 250 250 250 grey98 252 252 252 gray99 252 252 252 grey99 255 255 255 gray100 255 255 255 grey100 169 169 169 dark grey 169 169 169 DarkGrey 169 169 169 dark gray 169 169 169 DarkGray 0 0 139 dark blue 0 0 139 DarkBlue 0 139 139 dark cyan 0 139 139 DarkCyan 139 0 139 dark magenta 139 0 139 DarkMagenta 139 0 0 dark red 139 0 0 DarkRed 144 238 144 light green 144 238 144 LightGreen') collect: [ :each | | split color name | split := Character tab split: each. color := Character space split: (split at: 1). color := color select: [ :c| c isNotEmpty ]. color := color collect: [ :c | (c asInteger / 255) asFloat roundUpTo: 0.001 ]. name := split at: 3. {name asSymbol. color asArray} ] as: Array

Dec. 26, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Phanide - Pharo Native IDE

by Ronie Salgado

> > Great work, Ronie, it looks very promising! Keep in mind that we already > have an IDE - Pharo, so it would be cool to make the components of your IDE > as much reusable as possible and I think that most of them should be in the > standard image in future. I agree on the reusability part. BTW, I forgot to mention that the Phanide syntax highlighters are also automatically registered with the GT Inspector, so if you do a 'test.cpp' asFileReference inspect , you will also have the syntax highlighting. Best regards, Ronie 2017-12-26 13:12 GMT-03:00 Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com>: > Great work, Ronie, it looks very promising! Keep in mind that we already > have an IDE - Pharo, so it would be cool to make the components of your IDE > as much reusable as possible and I think that most of them should be in the > standard image in future. > > Cheers, > -- Pavel > > 2017-12-24 21:05 GMT+01:00 Ronie Salgado <roniesalg(a)gmail.com>: > >> Hi, >> >> I am going to announce a project that I started in November: >> >> Phanide, Pharo Native IDE( currently a File Browser, and a syntax >> highlighting framework): https://github.com/ronsaldo/phanide >> >> [image: ImÃ¡genes integradas 3] >> >> [image: ImÃ¡genes integradas 4] >> >> As for the UI, I am just copying some existing stuff like Atom (the text >> editor that I am currently using). >> >> Now I have a couple of questions to the mailing list: >> - In the fast table (used for the tree view): >> - How do I remove or add single elements without collapsing the whole >> tree? >> - In the Rubric text editor, how do I a put an icon (such as a breakpoint >> for GDB) in a specific line of the text, not in a index of the text? >> >> Merry Christmas, >> Ronie >> > >

Dec. 26, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Phanide - Pharo Native IDE

by Pavel Krivanek

Great work, Ronie, it looks very promising! Keep in mind that we already have an IDE - Pharo, so it would be cool to make the components of your IDE as much reusable as possible and I think that most of them should be in the standard image in future. Cheers, -- Pavel 2017-12-24 21:05 GMT+01:00 Ronie Salgado <roniesalg(a)gmail.com>: > Hi, > > I am going to announce a project that I started in November: > > Phanide, Pharo Native IDE( currently a File Browser, and a syntax > highlighting framework): https://github.com/ronsaldo/phanide > > [image: ImÃ¡genes integradas 3] > > [image: ImÃ¡genes integradas 4] > > As for the UI, I am just copying some existing stuff like Atom (the text > editor that I am currently using). > > Now I have a couple of questions to the mailing list: > - In the fast table (used for the tree view): > - How do I remove or add single elements without collapsing the whole > tree? > - In the Rubric text editor, how do I a put an icon (such as a breakpoint > for GDB) in a specific line of the text, not in a index of the text? > > Merry Christmas, > Ronie >

Dec. 26, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] Simple game framework

by Hilaire

Read. SDL + Cairo is the way you have been. I did not imagine Cairo was good at manipulating block of bitmap. Is Cairo stable over time in Pharo? I wonder will it be wiped out. More generally, I wonder what is the stable ground to build graphic application on Pharo? Le 25/12/2017 Ã 19:32, ClÃ©ment Bera a Ã©critÂ : > See those ReadMe: > > https://github.com/clementbera/wizard-battle-arena > > https://github.com/clementbera/SpiderInvasion > > Audio has always been a problem to me. I successfully run audio files > with the open AL binding, but I failed to do so cross-platform. > Already key-bindings coherent cross platform is difficult. > > Cheers -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu

Dec. 26, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] Building an application with P7

by Hilaire

I meant more tests in DrGeo to expose its features, and to discover where newer Pharo breaks it. Hilaire Le 25/12/2017 Ã 23:59, Ben Coman a Ã©critÂ : > > really took me a long time to get drgeo right on P3 because these > oddities only show up at runtime, under specific scenario. There > are easy to fix, thought. Writing more tests should help too. > > > It would be great to have Issues opened with new tests attached for > these specific cases > that currently fail which we can work on make green. > They make the problem nicely explicit to work on. > -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu

Dec. 26, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] Building an application with P7

by Ben Coman

On 26 December 2017 at 01:51, Hilaire <hilaire(a)drgeo.eu> wrote: > Let's discuss it in another thread. > > Until now, I moved slowly to update the drgeo build script to adjust to > Tonel file repository and P7; mostly done now. Will now look for help from > Pavel to build the drgeo image from a tiny core. > > About the other problems to get a user ready drgeo application based on > the forthcoming P7: > > - set up an application 64bits VMs architecture for Linux, OS X and > Windows (aka one-click image). I understand the later may be a problem as > there is not yet 64bits VMs. > > - get over the strange oddities appearing with P7, long and tedious but > mandatory; otherwise this sets back drgeo as an end user (student, > teacher) will immediately run away if drgeo is unpredictable. It really > took me a long time to get drgeo right on P3 because these oddities only > show up at runtime, under specific scenario. There are easy to fix, > thought. Writing more tests should help too. > It would be great to have Issues opened with new tests attached for these specific cases that currently fail which we can work on make green. They make the problem nicely explicit to work on. cheers -ben > > Hilaire > > > Le 25/12/2017 Ã 15:57, Stephane Ducasse a Ã©crit : > >> 5. fulfill the promise of tiny image, aka bootstrap and 4. >>> >> Did you see that pavel produced a smaller image than the first >> bootstrapped version >> >> All these wishes are under construction, so likely to happen \o/ >>> >>> >>> I have personal three wishes (beside good health of course), sharing it >>> in >>> case others are interested to hack on it too: >>> >>> A. get DrGeo working on P7, particularly on the bootstrap process. >>> >> Let us know the problem you face because this is important that you can. >> >> >> > -- > Dr. Geo > http://drgeo.eu > > > >

Dec. 25, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to restore image upgrade? was New Year Wishlist (2018) ?

by Ben Coman

As a half-way house, consider that "upgrade" scripts could be a good mechanism post-Release when changes should be less-deep/less-arduous on the system. This might avoid Esteban's time being needed to re-Release for each upgrade, with post-Release moving to a more community supported mechanism. This could scale better as we gain more users interested in long term support of their applications on a stable-release than the moving target of the development-edge. cheers -ben On 25 December 2017 at 23:11, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Nicolas > > We want to keep the live part of Pharo and incremental loading and it > is key for us. Now we should not be naive. > Most of the time we do not have the garantee that a change will work > when loaded. > > We proposed Pablo to work since two years on a really working dynamic > code loader and > Pablo has really nice results. But it takes time to evaluate if/how we > integrate its changes. > Pablo has an atomic coder loader and an incremental and modular class > builder. > He also designed a modular shutdown/startup list manager (in production). > > We want to be able to have a **real** and robust incremental load. > Right now as you know it and as in ANY smalltalk I can break the > system super easily. > There is no magic. I do not see how we can make sure that any piece of > code will be loaded > and do not break the system. > So our objective is to have a new infrastructure that we can updates > (like method hashes for example without having to > twists our mind and do five updates). > > Now about git, we want and we will have our lovely image as a working > directory but this requires engineering > because the image is another artefact that other languages do not have > to worry. > We will get there. > > Stef > > > On Sun, Dec 24, 2017 at 11:41 PM, Nicolas Cellier > <nicolas.cellier.aka.nice(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > 2017-12-24 2:59 GMT+01:00 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>: > >> > >> My four wishes, in no particular order: > >> - Better code completion > >> - Git in Pharo as easy as using Git for other languages > > > > The recipe is easy: turn pharo into a file based edit-compile-run > language > > and expunge those live object burden ;) > > Let me explain why it's not just trolling. > > Currently we have to download an image made by a bot. > > Pharo has gradually lost the power to upgrade the image (it's not new). > > > > If we recognize that an image acts like a workspace, and want to let the > > pull/branch switch/etc work again... > > IOW going from one point to any other in source code graph > > and experience the full power of git like any other language, > > that means, in a live IDE, at least solving those two problems: > > - changing the tools that are used to upgrade the image (Compiler, > > MethodDictionary, Array, etc...) > > - correctly initialize all the states (including stange loops) > > If pharo has not managed to solve this with a linear one way history (the > > regularly broken update image option), > > how do you think this is going to be solved in the more general case? > > I call this the universal boostrap problem. > > > > IMO the logical next step is to separate the IDE > > (the Inanimate Desintegrated Environment of any other language). > > > > Maybe we don't have to bend Pharo too much to git if it does not fit. > > The goal: as easy might be not that easy. > > > > > >> - Bloc on Steroid > >> - Being able to interrupt any process and endless loop using > Cmd-. > >> > >> Merry Christmas to all of you! > >> Alexandre > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Dec 23, 2017, at 1:58 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> > Hi everybody, > >> > > >> > This looks like a good moment of the year to ask all of you what would > >> > you want to see in Pharo next year. > >> > Features, improvements, radical changes, etcâ¦. whatever you want. > >> > > >> > Of course, this list will not be a roadmap and it does not means we > will > >> > implement all of it (as always, time drives our possibilities), but > is a > >> > good moment for us a a community to check where we are and where we > wan to > >> > go next :) > >> > > >> > So, letâs those wishes come! > >> > > >> > cheers, > >> > Esteban > >> > >> > > > >

Dec. 25, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Year Wishlist (2018) ?

by Ben Coman

On 25 December 2017 at 22:58, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Dec 25, 2017 at 2:17 PM, Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> wrote: > > A GUI builder is always a nice thing ... and there already was an attempt > > for Pharo: > > > > http://www.squeaksource.com/UIBuilder/ > > > > Now marked as "Failed attempt of develop a UI builder for > Pharo-Smalltalk. That version > > only works in Pharo 1.1. Is opened for any developer.". > > > > Dont know why it failed ... maybe because the UI (especially with > Morphic legacy) > > is still too shaky are in Pharo. > > The developer stopped when he saw that he could not build a excel like > grid. > Oh, then let me add an Excel-like grid as my Christmas wish (or does FastTable already provide much of this?) cheers -ben

Dec. 25, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Year Wishlist (2018) ?

by serge.stinckwich＠gmail.com

Yes we talk about something like that with ClÃ©ment some months ago. EnvoyÃ© de mon iPhone > Le 25 dÃ©c. 2017 Ã 20:29, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> a Ã©crit : > > >> On Mon, Dec 25, 2017 at 3:18 PM Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> wrote: >> A GUI builder is always a nice thing ... and there already was an attempt >> for Pharo: >> >> http://www.squeaksource.com/UIBuilder/ >> >> Now marked as "Failed attempt of develop a UI builder for Pharo-Smalltalk. That version >> only works in Pharo 1.1. Is opened for any developer.". >> >> Dont know why it failed ... maybe because the UI (especially with Morphic legacy) >> is still too shaky are in Pharo. >> >> But I guess the order will be/needs to be: >> >> - good and stable graphics framework (maybe solved with Bloc) >> - good and stable standardized widget set (maybe solved with Brick) >> - then place a UI builder on top of it >> >> Bye > > Yeap that's the ideology about GUI designers , which is why so few IDE's have them. It's like the man waiting for the perfect woman to marry, ending up all alone and miserable. > > As a designer myself I cannot follow easily this ideology. Actually I cannot follow it at all. > > I see it the exact opposite way, if you don't have a good GUI designer , your ability to provide a stable and powerful GUI API will be limited because less people will use it. > > The most stable and powerful GUI api I ever used was VCL , the standard library of Delphi and surprise, surprise it has a GUI designer. The most powerful I used so far. > > Open source wise QT dominates , surprise , surprise it has a very powerful GUI designer. > > On Windows you have VS studio GUI designer on MacOS and iOS the XCode GUI Designer and so forth. > > There a ton of GUI APIs out there that almost none uses, is it because they are not stable ? > > Well ... *cough* Windows *cough* ... sure. > > Making GUIs via code, is not as much fun, its slower and ends up being also less flexible as you can easily lose track of what you intend to do trying to understand the internals of a GUI API. Not fun at all. Especially if you experienced the horrors of MFC. > > But I am realistic , don't expect a GUI designer any time soon in Pharo. They are very hard to make and coders being allergic to GUIs does not help motivate to make one. > > I am ok with just a modular image format. > > Also I drink my own poison. I have made my own GUI API in Python with OpenGL (used from inside Blender for an application I am developing) very loosely inspired by some things I liked about Morphic. The more complex it becomes the more I feel the need to create a designer that will handle the boring stuff for me. > > For now I use the excellent excuse you provide of stability and inability to promise the structure of the GUI API in the future. But its an excuse with an expiration date. Making the GUI I have in my head using plain code , without a GUI designer, is a nightmare that is highly unlikely I will let myself experience. > > On the other hand when one makes his own GUI API the good news is that he can make it fits well in the workflow of a GUI designer. This way instead of trying to make the Designer according to the API , I make the API according to the designer. > > But the good news is that it has helped me realize the amount work needed to put in GUI API to become really useful. Fortunately making API to find only my needs has made things far easier and far smaller. I cannot imagine making something like Bloc and keeping my sanity. This way the next time I complain about a GUI API, I will have a whole different level of respect for the developers behind it.

Dec. 25, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Year Wishlist (2018) ?

by Dimitris Chloupis

On Mon, Dec 25, 2017 at 3:18 PM Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> wrote: > A GUI builder is always a nice thing ... and there already was an attempt > for Pharo: > > http://www.squeaksource.com/UIBuilder/ > > Now marked as "Failed attempt of develop a UI builder for Pharo-Smalltalk. > That version > only works in Pharo 1.1. Is opened for any developer.". > > Dont know why it failed ... maybe because the UI (especially with Morphic > legacy) > is still too shaky are in Pharo. > > But I guess the order will be/needs to be: > > - good and stable graphics framework (maybe solved with Bloc) > - good and stable standardized widget set (maybe solved with Brick) > - then place a UI builder on top of it > > Bye > Yeap that's the ideology about GUI designers , which is why so few IDE's have them. It's like the man waiting for the perfect woman to marry, ending up all alone and miserable. As a designer myself I cannot follow easily this ideology. Actually I cannot follow it at all. I see it the exact opposite way, if you don't have a good GUI designer , your ability to provide a stable and powerful GUI API will be limited because less people will use it. The most stable and powerful GUI api I ever used was VCL , the standard library of Delphi and surprise, surprise it has a GUI designer. The most powerful I used so far. Open source wise QT dominates , surprise , surprise it has a very powerful GUI designer. On Windows you have VS studio GUI designer on MacOS and iOS the XCode GUI Designer and so forth. There a ton of GUI APIs out there that almost none uses, is it because they are not stable ? Well ... *cough* Windows *cough* ... sure. Making GUIs via code, is not as much fun, its slower and ends up being also less flexible as you can easily lose track of what you intend to do trying to understand the internals of a GUI API. Not fun at all. Especially if you experienced the horrors of MFC. But I am realistic , don't expect a GUI designer any time soon in Pharo. They are very hard to make and coders being allergic to GUIs does not help motivate to make one. I am ok with just a modular image format. Also I drink my own poison. I have made my own GUI API in Python with OpenGL (used from inside Blender for an application I am developing) very loosely inspired by some things I liked about Morphic. The more complex it becomes the more I feel the need to create a designer that will handle the boring stuff for me. For now I use the excellent excuse you provide of stability and inability to promise the structure of the GUI API in the future. But its an excuse with an expiration date. Making the GUI I have in my head using plain code , without a GUI designer, is a nightmare that is highly unlikely I will let myself experience. On the other hand when one makes his own GUI API the good news is that he can make it fits well in the workflow of a GUI designer. This way instead of trying to make the Designer according to the API , I make the API according to the designer. But the good news is that it has helped me realize the amount work needed to put in GUI API to become really useful. Fortunately making API to find only my needs has made things far easier and far smaller. I cannot imagine making something like Bloc and keeping my sanity. This way the next time I complain about a GUI API, I will have a whole different level of respect for the developers behind it.

Dec. 25, 2017