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Re: [Pharo-project] Fuel - a fast object deployment tool

by Levente Uzonyi

On Thu, 9 Dec 2010, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >>> It does! >>> It seems that you did not work in VW2.5 and 3.0 and when parcels arrived loading was realllllly a big difference >>> I do not see why this would not the same with Fuel. >> >> No I didn't, but the version number of VW is around 7.x now, so I guess the CPUs and VMs are now several times faster. Does it really matter if it takes 200ms or 20ms to load a package? > > When I load a package with MC so far I still notice it and I would not even think about it. > It should load in a unnoticeable amount of time. Do you think MC is "slow" because the Compiler is "slow"? Levente > > Stef > > >

Dec. 9, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] ODBC, loadFFI and friends!

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Dec 9, 2010, at 7:54 PM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: >> Please have a look at >> >> http://www.squeaksource.com/PharoInbox/DolphinCompatibility-ODBC-BillSchwab… >> >> It adds a few methods that I missed (one could argue that I should package >some of this separately) and gives access to table and field names. > > Hi Bill, > > I once contacted Frank Urbach (creator of the package on squeaksource), > but got no response. but he replied to me and I forwarded to you. You never got it? > > However: http://www.squeaksource.com/ODBC is "Read And Write" so > you can integrate your changes easily. It's MIT and open anyway > so anything that makes life easier should be added.

Dec. 9, 2010

[Pharo-project] about cloud in pharo

by stephane ducasse

Hi guys When I see that. I would really like to see how we can create something around the cloud. We have a lot of assets. Does anybody have some interest bootstrapping a business around that? Today http://heroku.com/ were bought by Salesforce for over 200 million (http://techcrunch.com/2010/12/08/breaking-salesforce-buys-heroku-for-212-mi…) Stef

Dec. 9, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Why was the old Editor Functionality Removed?

by Alain Plantec

Hi Lukas, all I guess I'm the one who made all this bad changes. So sorry, sorry sorry. Maybe we can come back to the "old" one. No problem for me. I can make a slice in that direction. But frankly, what a catastrophic mail for people who are trying to make the system cleaner. do you know how much of my free time I've spent to make the undo/redo work again? Maybe one can just simply ask for help instead of blaming. Cheers Alain Le 09/12/2010 19:17, Lukas Renggli a Ã©crit : > I wonder why the old editor functionality was removed instead of being > deprecated until the next release like this is normally done? > > It is extremely difficult to get any GUI related stuff ported, because > the packages cannot simply be loaded. One has to fix part of the > package in the old image, and part of the package in the new image. > One wrong method, and everything blows up irreversibly. > > I spent the whole afternoon trying to get OB, Shout and eCompletion > working. OB and Shout kind of work (thanks to the preparations in the > PharoTaskForces), but they are still subtly broken. eCompletion is > very hard to get working. The idea of making completion part of the > ToolSet doesn't help at all, the patch now just moved from Morphic to > the StandardToolSet class. > > I am frustrated and give up, I revert back to Pharo 1.1. > > Lukas >

Dec. 9, 2010

[Pharo-project] ODBC, loadFFI and friends!

by Torsten Bergmann

>Please have a look at > > http://www.squeaksource.com/PharoInbox/DolphinCompatibility-ODBC-BillSchwab… > >It adds a few methods that I missed (one could argue that I should package >some of this separately) and gives access to table and field names. Hi Bill, I once contacted Frank Urbach (creator of the package on squeaksource), but got no response. However: http://www.squeaksource.com/ODBC is "Read And Write" so you can integrate your changes easily. It's MIT and open anyway so anything that makes life easier should be added. Thanks Torsten -- GMX DSL Doppel-Flat ab 19,99 €/mtl.! Jetzt auch mit gratis Notebook-Flat! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl

Dec. 9, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [Vm-beginners] Re: Compiling for iOS?

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Hi David, > your download should work almost "out of the box". yes? you fixed the problems we had last week? > What problem are you having? > btw, I'm cc this mail to vm-beginers list, that's a place where you can ask > any vm related stuff and will be answered "as soon as possible" :) > > cheers, > Esteban > > El 09/12/2010, a las 8:06a.m., David Li escribiÃ³: > > > Hi, > > > > Sorry to ask such dumb question. I have just download the source from > http://squeakvm.org/svn/squeak/trunk and found the Xcode project in the > iOS directory is setup to compile for OS X. I tried to search this list for > answer but didn't find any question/answer related to this. So my question > is that: > > > > 1. Am I downloading the iOS source from the right place? > > 2. If correct, how do I get a xcode project to compile for iOS? > > > > Thanks. > > > > David Li > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > VM-beginners mailing list > VM-beginners(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/vm-beginners >

Dec. 9, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Where does Regex-Core and friends live

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

>> > I'm interested in terms of maintaining Pharo compatibility ... many of the GLASS developers develop in Pharo and deploy in GemStone and I am trying to get in the habit of using the same packages that are loaded into Pharo (where possible/practical) so that the bugfixes and updates can be shared without too much trouble ... Dale we are interested in making sure that the package loads well in Glass. I hope that we will simplify clean the system another couple of times to arrive to a nicer version. Adding tests is also a good way to support such effort. Stef

Dec. 9, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [Vm-beginners] Re: Compiling for iOS?

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Hi david, the xcode project is http://squeakvm.org/svn/squeak/trunk/platforms/iOS/vm/SqueakPureObjc.xcodep… for normal vm (not cog). Cheers Mariano On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Hi David, > your download should work almost "out of the box". What problem are you > having? > btw, I'm cc this mail to vm-beginers list, that's a place where you can ask > any vm related stuff and will be answered "as soon as possible" :) > > cheers, > Esteban > > El 09/12/2010, a las 8:06a.m., David Li escribiÃ³: > > > Hi, > > > > Sorry to ask such dumb question. I have just download the source from > http://squeakvm.org/svn/squeak/trunk and found the Xcode project in the > iOS directory is setup to compile for OS X. I tried to search this list for > answer but didn't find any question/answer related to this. So my question > is that: > > > > 1. Am I downloading the iOS source from the right place? > > 2. If correct, how do I get a xcode project to compile for iOS? > > > > Thanks. > > > > David Li > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > VM-beginners mailing list > VM-beginners(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/vm-beginners >

Dec. 9, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] System Change Notification Broken

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

> I wanted to draw the attention to > > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3396 > > The system change notification service is kind of critical for everything. > > Any idea why it doesn't work anymore in the latest system? Lukas do you know the latest version in which it worked. I fixed yesterday something in RecentList but it should not be the cause of the problem. I started to work on fixing tests and I noticed that one MC test is not working for marking dirty package. I did not have the time to dive into it. Stef

Dec. 9, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Just another struggling newbie

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Welcome Chip Do not hesitate to ask us for help. Now the state of certain tools is clearly not at the level where we would like them to be (believe me). Stef On Dec 9, 2010, at 3:52 PM, Chip Nowacek wrote: > Hello everyone, > > While I should have introduced myself before I ran into trouble, it is trouble that has brought me here. I guess I'm glad something provided the excuse to meet you. > > First, a short introduction... > > I'm really new to Smalltalk. Kent Beck said it's a good choice for my project. Technically, I come from the database architecture world - though I am more entrepreneur now than techie. I'm starting up a new company and Kent suggested building a prototype myself instead of bringing someone else in - so here I am. I'm trying to move from Squeak because Pharo feels a little more developer oriented. We'll see how it goes. > > To the matter: I don't understand why I can't accept a change to my comment in one of my classes. When I try to accept in the OB Package Browser, about a dozen calls in, #Utility is being sent #changeStamp and doesn't understand it. I am in the midst of sorting through the stack trying to figure out what happened. As you might imagine, it's a little discouraging for such a basic function to blow up. What makes it worse, I'm probably the cause of the problem - I just don't know what I screwed up. I am working in Pharo 1.1.1 and have loaded Magma and O2 per: > > DEVImageWorkspaces openExternalProjectWorkspace > > I created a package for my stuff according to that which I have read so far. Maybe I did that correctly. My classes are in a category within that package. > > With introductions complete, I don't intend my future posts to be so long-winded. Thanks for whatever patience you've been able to afford me. > > Chip

Dec. 9, 2010