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[Pharo-project] trying to load seaside from scratch into Pharo 1.1 or 1.1.1

by Lawson English

I get a pristine one-click image for 1.1 or 1.1.1 from the pharo-project website and do: Gofer new squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; package: 'ConfigurationOfSeaside'; load. ConfigurationOfSeaside load. an hour or so into the install, I get message: Error: stream is already in a subclass of WAHtmlDocument. This is using Mac OS X SnowLeopard. :-( Lawson

Dec. 15, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: [Vm-dev] A Git-based VM sources repositories for you

by Damien Pollet

On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 23:13, laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Not my priority at the moment :), but you can have a look at Â git svn > command ( http://progit.org/book/ch8-1.html ) so you can work with both git > and svn and keep history. The other Damien used that for the "by example" books. It works well to import the whole history, and I think for tracking authorship it would be a good idea. However, it would probably become an organization nightmare if people commit to both svn and git. Someone has to keep a git-svn clone somewhere and periodically update from svn and push/merge to git. Of course, unless there is a branch under git just for that, as soon as there is a merge conflict, human intervention will be needed. Also, that git-svn clone must not be lost. I'm not sure you can re-build it and the checksums will still match those on the git side. -- Damien Pollet type less, do more [ | ] http://people.untyped.org/damien.pollet

Dec. 14, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: [Vm-dev] A Git-based VM sources repositories for you

by laurent laffont

On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 11:03 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 14 December 2010 22:51, Henrik Sperre Johansen > <henrik.s.johansen(a)veloxit.no> wrote: > > On 14.12.2010 22:38, Igor Stasenko wrote: > >> > >> On 14 December 2010 22:32, Mariano Martinez Peck<marianopeck(a)gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> Thanks Igor. One little question: is it possible that when someone > >>> commits > >>> on svn, it automatically commits also in git ? > >>> > >> most probably yes. But i didn't explored opportunities so deep. > >> I prefer being focused on hacking the code rather than reading boring > >> docs/help about VCS tools. :) > >> > >> What is good in web-front end sites like gitorious, that you can do > >> most of boring administration tasks using > >> nice web UI. > >> It took me few minutes to set up everything. Uploading sources took > >> much more (but that's because i having slow internet connection). > > > > Just uploading latest versions, or using a tool like > > https://github.com/nirvdrum/svn2git ? > > I think being able to preserve the history would be considered a pretty > big > > plus if switching :) > > > > I just did a simplest possible thing: svn export ... > and then pushed resulting files to git. > > If you (or anyone else) want to help with that, just register, and i > will simply add you to squeak-vm-developers group, > so you can copy the whole history. > I'm not very handy with these command-line SCM tools. So, if there's > more experienced people hiding in the shadows , please step forward :) > Not my priority at the moment :), but you can have a look at git svn command ( http://progit.org/book/ch8-1.html ) so you can work with both git and svn and keep history. There's also a (small) dedicated chapter in http://pragprog.com/titles/tsgit/pragmatic-version-control-using-git Laurent. > > > > Cheers, > > Henry > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. > >

Dec. 14, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: [Vm-dev] A Git-based VM sources repositories for you

by Igor Stasenko

On 14 December 2010 22:51, Henrik Sperre Johansen <henrik.s.johansen(a)veloxit.no> wrote: > On 14.12.2010 22:38, Igor Stasenko wrote: >> >> On 14 December 2010 22:32, Mariano Martinez Peck<marianopeck(a)gmail.com> >> Â wrote: >>> >>> Thanks Igor. One little question: Â is it possible that when someone >>> commits >>> on svn, it automatically commits also in git ? >>> >> most probably yes. But i didn't explored opportunities so deep. >> I prefer being focused on hacking the code rather than reading boring >> docs/help about VCS tools. :) >> >> What is good in web-front end sites like gitorious, that you can do >> most of boring administration tasks using >> nice web UI. >> It took me few minutes to set up everything. Uploading sources took >> much more (but that's because i having slow internet connection). > > Just uploading latest versions, or using a tool like > https://github.com/nirvdrum/svn2git ? > I think being able to preserve the history would be considered a pretty big > plus if switching :) > I just did a simplest possible thing: svn export ... and then pushed resulting files to git. If you (or anyone else) want to help with that, just register, and i will simply add you to squeak-vm-developers group, so you can copy the whole history. I'm not very handy with these command-line SCM tools. So, if there's more experienced people hiding in the shadows , please step forward :) > Cheers, > Henry -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

Dec. 14, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: [Vm-dev] A Git-based VM sources repositories for you

by Henrik Sperre Johansen

On 14.12.2010 22:38, Igor Stasenko wrote: > On 14 December 2010 22:32, Mariano Martinez Peck<marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Thanks Igor. One little question: is it possible that when someone commits >> on svn, it automatically commits also in git ? >> > most probably yes. But i didn't explored opportunities so deep. > I prefer being focused on hacking the code rather than reading boring > docs/help about VCS tools. :) > > What is good in web-front end sites like gitorious, that you can do > most of boring administration tasks using > nice web UI. > It took me few minutes to set up everything. Uploading sources took > much more (but that's because i having slow internet connection). Just uploading latest versions, or using a tool like https://github.com/nirvdrum/svn2git ? I think being able to preserve the history would be considered a pretty big plus if switching :) Cheers, Henry

Dec. 14, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: [Vm-dev] A Git-based VM sources repositories for you

by Igor Stasenko

On 14 December 2010 22:32, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks Igor. One little question:Â is it possible that when someone commits > on svn, it automatically commits also in git ? > most probably yes. But i didn't explored opportunities so deep. I prefer being focused on hacking the code rather than reading boring docs/help about VCS tools. :) What is good in web-front end sites like gitorious, that you can do most of boring administration tasks using nice web UI. It took me few minutes to set up everything. Uploading sources took much more (but that's because i having slow internet connection). > thanks > > mariano > > On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 10:23 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

Dec. 14, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Background changer script kills Pharo

by Henrik Sperre Johansen

On 14.12.2010 20:55, Tony Fleig wrote: > Problem solved. (Well, sort of.) > > I tracked it down to the JPEG VM plug-in. If instead the Smalltalk > JPEGReadWriter is used, the problem does not occur. I'm not sure why > it only occurs when a Delay is used though. > > Then I discovered that it does not occur in Pharo 1.1.1 either (I was > using Pharo 1.1.) So something must have changed for the better > between the versions. > > So my problem is solved and I have another reason to always use the > latest Pharo version ;) > > Thanks for your time. > > TF I think you are correct it's a problem with the plugin code being run from multiple threads. I've been able to reproduce a crash on Windows in 1.0, 1.1, 1.2 beta and Squeak 4.1 images (release and trunk) using the Squeak 4.1.1 VM. My provocative test was (seemed to happen less often with large (>3MB) images): FileStream oldFileNamed: 'trouble.jpg' do: [:img | imageStream := RWBinaryOrTextStream with: img binary contents]. 50 timesRepeat: [[ ImageReadWriter formFromStream: imageStream] forkAt: Processor userBackgroundPriority ]. Just executing the code in the forked block works just fine. Cheers, Henry

Dec. 14, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [Vm-dev] A Git-based VM sources repositories for you

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Thanks Igor. One little question: is it possible that when someone commits on svn, it automatically commits also in git ? thanks mariano On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 10:23 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hello, community > > (preface) there was a discussion about using git for VM sources and > recently in pharo team, we are also discussed that, and decided to go > on. > So i started to look for an options and found that Gitorious is best > solution for us all. > In contrast to github, it doesn't charging users when their repository > grow beyond 300Mb in size. > And its totally free for open-source projects. > > To be sure, that i understood thing well, i even sent mail to support > to clarify some aspects of their policy and got following in answer: > > <<<< quote start > > I can't even begin to tell you how happy I am about this! Smalltalk is > the coolest thing I know about computers, and I love what you have > done with Squeak, thanks! > > <... skip technical details ...> > > The short version: go ahead! I'm really pleased you want to use > Gitorious and I hope you'll be satisfied! > > Cheers, > - Marius > > >>>>>> quote end. > > > So, after such warm welcome, the choice was obvious :) > I made a mirrors of SVN repositories for Squeak VM and Cog VM > on gitorious.org. > > i created a group named: squeak-vm-developers > http://gitorious.org/+squeak-vm-developers > > this group owns two projects: > Squeak VM (http://gitorious.org/squeak-vm) > and Cog VM (http://gitorious.org/cogvm) > > Any member(s) of group having an admin access to these projects , and > commit rights to projects 'blessed' repositories: > > http://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed > http://gitorious.org/squeak-vm/blessed > > (yes, a single project could have multiple repositories, but for start > we will use just one - a blessed ;) > > Now what any people from street can do: > - register @ gitorious.org > - go to /cogvm/blessed or /squeak-vm/blessed > - click magic 'clone repository' button > and from now you will have a fresh copy of 'official' repository, > ready for hacking in your own corner, > where you are the all powerful deity and can do anything you want > without asking anyone. > > That's the main reason for migrating to git-based hosting: > - easy for getting in > - no additional administration costs > - people can easily exchange the results of their own experiments > without putting an 'official' repository in danger. > > @(John, Elior, Ian & other currently active SVN users) note: There is > no pressure for migrating to git-based source code management. > > if you keep using SVN, no problem. I will take care with refreshing a > blessed repo(s) with SVN commits. > > But if you want to migrate, ask me, and i will add you to > 'squeak-vm-developers' group. Note that this group serves only for > managing > and official 'blessed' repos, and if you don't want participate, you > can just live in own corner as anyone else can. This doesn't make much > difference anyways :) > > I just wanna tell, that from now i will use own clone(s) of 'blessed' > repos for experiments and of course i encouraging everyone, > who wants to start hacking VM(s) to do the same. > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. >

Dec. 14, 2010

[Pharo-project] A Git-based VM sources repositories for you

by Igor Stasenko

Hello, community (preface) there was a discussion about using git for VM sources and recently in pharo team, we are also discussed that, and decided to go on. So i started to look for an options and found that Gitorious is best solution for us all. In contrast to github, it doesn't charging users when their repository grow beyond 300Mb in size. And its totally free for open-source projects. To be sure, that i understood thing well, i even sent mail to support to clarify some aspects of their policy and got following in answer: <<<< quote start I can't even begin to tell you how happy I am about this! Smalltalk is the coolest thing I know about computers, and I love what you have done with Squeak, thanks! <... skip technical details ...> The short version: go ahead! I'm really pleased you want to use Gitorious and I hope you'll be satisfied! Cheers, - Marius >>>>>> quote end. So, after such warm welcome, the choice was obvious :) I made a mirrors of SVN repositories for Squeak VM and Cog VM on gitorious.org. i created a group named: squeak-vm-developers http://gitorious.org/+squeak-vm-developers this group owns two projects: Squeak VM (http://gitorious.org/squeak-vm) and Cog VM (http://gitorious.org/cogvm) Any member(s) of group having an admin access to these projects , and commit rights to projects 'blessed' repositories: http://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed http://gitorious.org/squeak-vm/blessed (yes, a single project could have multiple repositories, but for start we will use just one - a blessed ;) Now what any people from street can do: - register @ gitorious.org - go to /cogvm/blessed or /squeak-vm/blessed - click magic 'clone repository' button and from now you will have a fresh copy of 'official' repository, ready for hacking in your own corner, where you are the all powerful deity and can do anything you want without asking anyone. That's the main reason for migrating to git-based hosting: - easy for getting in - no additional administration costs - people can easily exchange the results of their own experiments without putting an 'official' repository in danger. @(John, Elior, Ian & other currently active SVN users) note: There is no pressure for migrating to git-based source code management. if you keep using SVN, no problem. I will take care with refreshing a blessed repo(s) with SVN commits. But if you want to migrate, ask me, and i will add you to 'squeak-vm-developers' group. Note that this group serves only for managing and official 'blessed' repos, and if you don't want participate, you can just live in own corner as anyone else can. This doesn't make much difference anyways :) I just wanna tell, that from now i will use own clone(s) of 'blessed' repos for experiments and of course i encouraging everyone, who wants to start hacking VM(s) to do the same. -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

Dec. 14, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] TODO for 1.2...

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Dec 14, 2010, at 9:39 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On Dec 14, 2010, at 9:34 PM, csrabak(a)bol.com.br wrote: > >> Why in the first link even with the selection "Open Issues", items marked "Fixed" or "Closed" are showing? >> > > Closed: a bug of the bug tracker. Highly annyoing. > Fixed. This means: the entry contains something that is a propesed fix in a loadable form. Needs to be integrated. > > But sometimes, it means more something like "Stef wants to look at this later and if it's not tagged it will be lost". :-) yes may be we should have that instead of FixedWaitingToBePharoed > > Marus > > > >> Just trying to understand... >> >> -- >> Cesar Rabak >> >> >> >> >> >> Em 13/12/2010 14:54, Marcus Denker < marcus.denker(a)inria.fr > escreveu: >> Open Bugs: >> >> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list?can=2&q=milestone=1.2 >> >> Failing Tests: >> >> https://pharo-ic.lille.inria.fr/hudson/job/Pharo%20Core%201.2/lastCompleted… >> >> >> and a failing build of non-Core: >> >> https://pharo-ic.lille.inria.fr/hudson/job/Pharo%201.2/8/console >> >> >> >> Marcus >> >> >> -- >> Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de >> INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. >> >> >> >> > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de > INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. > >

Dec. 14, 2010