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Re: [Pharo-project] marketing or not?

by Stephen Taylor

Lukas Renggli wrote: >> Is there anyone out there working on this sort of project? > Flash: http://blogs.inextenso.com/seaside/blog/learning/795d945e-d6cf-11db-ace5-00… That's right - I'd forgotten about VistaScript. It looked good for a while and then it completely disappeared off the face of the web. So completely that I wondered if the author got bought out, rather than just gave up. Does anyone know what happened to it? > Javascript: http://clamato.net/ Ah - it must be Christmas! Thanks. > Lukas Steve

Dec. 23, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] marketing or not?

by Lukas Renggli

> What I'd really like to see these days though is a Smalltalk environment > running on top of either JavaScript or Flash. It would probably be pretty > slow, but given that the thing I most want to do with computer is write > easily accessable casual games in a language I love, it would hit a sweet > spot for me. > > Is there anyone out there working on this sort of project? Flash: http://blogs.inextenso.com/seaside/blog/learning/795d945e-d6cf-11db-ace5-00… Javascript: http://clamato.net/ Lukas -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

Dec. 23, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] marketing or not?

by Stephen Taylor

The question it raises for me - I've always been tantalised by the prospect of Smalltalk running on top of a popular and widespread platform - Bistro, which brought Smalltalk to the JVM was an early attempt. What I'd really like to see these days though is a Smalltalk environment running on top of either JavaScript or Flash. It would probably be pretty slow, but given that the thing I most want to do with computer is write easily accessable casual games in a language I love, it would hit a sweet spot for me. Is there anyone out there working on this sort of project? Steve

Dec. 23, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 2010 - Thank you!

by GermÃ¡n Arduino

Thanks Igor!! I would ask on this list, be sure of that. 2010/12/23 Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com>: > On 23 December 2010 21:33, GermÃ¡n Arduino <garduino(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> 2010/12/23 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: >>> >>> On Dec 23, 2 >>>>> >>>>> There is SmallErp or the project of stefan eggermont. >>>>> This is just that I believe that issue bills, reports and managing stock is somehow >>>>> also a large part of business. >>>>> >>>>> Stef >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> Ah, yes, certainly is a possibility. >>>> >>>> But I'm thinking in a sort of application to improve some of the >>>> functions of one of the big social networks, Â but is too early to say >>>> more :) >>> >>> keep it secret :) >>> They are all watching us :). >>> Good christmas (here this is cold). >>> >>> Stef >>> >> >> hehe, I promise that as soon as I have something working (if I can get >> it) I will announce first here (and hopefully have some testers). >> Good Christmas to you and family also. I wish to have a bit of cold >> here, the summer started more bad than usual :( >> >> > I wishing a success to your project. Ask don't forget about asking > Santa for help.. or just us :) > >> Cheers. >> GermÃ¡n. >> >> >> >> --

Dec. 23, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3466 in pharo: Display the leading zero while printing the hexadecimal version of a Character

by pharo＠googlecode.com

Updates: Status: Fixed Labels: Milestone-1.3 Comment #2 on issue 3466 by stephane.ducasse: Display the leading zero while printing the hexadecimal version of a Character http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3466 we should check what this change may break.

Dec. 23, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] New features ...

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

Stef, Very true, #on:do: is not syntax, BUT, it looks that way to the casual observer, which might be the point of the question. If I decide that it really should be #on:DO:, I can make that addition in seconds. {} involves changing the compiler, right? Yes, it can be done, but it requires more than just taking advantage of message passing. James, am I helping at all? Bill ________________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of StÃ©phane Ducasse [stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr] Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 4:28 PM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] New features ... On Dec 23, 2010, at 10:08 PM, James Ladd wrote: > Hi All, > > From what I understand of Smalltalk new language constructs can be added as long as they > fit in with the "message passing" scheme/principle. > > Since the release of Smalltalk-80 I think some new constructs have been added and I need an > example for a piece I am writing. > > Can someone tell me what syntactical construct was added since Blue Book - Smalltalk-80 ? > > I think "on:do:" was, but Im not sure. not on:do: this is just exception handling and this does not change the syntax { } did. Stef > > Rgs, James.

Dec. 23, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Mars, stuck on callbacks (again)... need opinions

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

I'm still watching. Alien didn't really exist on Linux (so it was not an option) when I last looked, and native boost was starting to look pretty attractive. FFI gets some points because I know more about (at least using) it than the others. The recompiling is easy enough for now, and it ain't broke. ________________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Esteban Lorenzano [estebanlm(a)gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 4:28 PM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Mars, stuck on callbacks (again)... need opinions Hi Bill, Yes, Alien already support callbacks... maybe you can try it instead recompiling every time :) Cheers, Esteban El 23/12/2010, a las 6:22p.m., Schwab,Wilhelm K escribiÃ³: > Esteban, > > FW(very little)IW, my first reaction as I started reading was "has he thought about native boost or alien?" Callbacks have been in a possible-but-not-supported state for a long time. I believe Eliot recently mentioned callbacks in FFI, so it seems to be an idea that is solidifying. > > At present, I have .so that exports functions in lieu of callbacks. I have to recompile the library to change anything :( but it's number crunching so I get C speed for my trouble :) The functions are used small numbers of times, so Smalltalk speed and flexibility would be preferable for all of my uses to date ~:0 > > Good hunting! > > Bill > >

Dec. 23, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Mars, stuck on callbacks (again)... need opinions

by Esteban Lorenzano

Hi Bill, Yes, Alien already support callbacks... maybe you can try it instead recompiling every time :) Cheers, Esteban El 23/12/2010, a las 6:22p.m., Schwab,Wilhelm K escribiÃ³: > Esteban, > > FW(very little)IW, my first reaction as I started reading was "has he thought about native boost or alien?" Callbacks have been in a possible-but-not-supported state for a long time. I believe Eliot recently mentioned callbacks in FFI, so it seems to be an idea that is solidifying. > > At present, I have .so that exports functions in lieu of callbacks. I have to recompile the library to change anything :( but it's number crunching so I get C speed for my trouble :) The functions are used small numbers of times, so Smalltalk speed and flexibility would be preferable for all of my uses to date ~:0 > > Good hunting! > > Bill > >

Dec. 23, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] New features ...

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Dec 23, 2010, at 10:08 PM, James Ladd wrote: > Hi All, > > From what I understand of Smalltalk new language constructs can be added as long as they > fit in with the "message passing" scheme/principle. > > Since the release of Smalltalk-80 I think some new constructs have been added and I need an > example for a piece I am writing. > > Can someone tell me what syntactical construct was added since Blue Book - Smalltalk-80 ? > > I think "on:do:" was, but Im not sure. not on:do: this is just exception handling and this does not change the syntax { } did. Stef > > Rgs, James.

Dec. 23, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 2010 - Thank you!

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

dario did you look at (I always forget the name) suiza? Because this is a start of that? Stef > +1 > > Good Christmas to you and your family. > > > About: > > do you think that a good open-source ERP in Smalltalk would help you? > > > I'm interesting to ERP in Smalltalk. > > I think it with: > > - Seaside interface > > - Gemstone OODB ( GLASS ) > > - Magritte for meta data base description > > > Ciao, > > Dario >

Dec. 23, 2010