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Re: [Pharo-project] source.lukas-renggli.ch is down

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

>> >>> Philippe wrote: >>>> On 29.12.2010 11:01, St?phane Ducasse wrote: >>>> We know. I will reask again for our web-dav server. >>> >>>> You're actually working in a big bank, aren't you Stef? I can tell by >>>> the time it takes you to get a web-dav server ;-) >>> >>> No, in a bank they would have asked him why he needs his own Exchange server. >> >> :) >> this is what I'm doing now. They will ask me why I need to pay for my own server :) But who will pay? We pay somehow for the inria servers so we should be able to use them. Stef

Dec. 30, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] (FileDirectory default directoryExists: '..') answers false on Mac OS

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

I ***hate*** it and all the file management. This is so ugly and clunky. On Dec 30, 2010, at 10:20 AM, Nicolas Cellier wrote: > Yes, and > (FileDirectory default directoryExists: '.') > is false too... > > Don't you hate this FileDirectory thing ? > It's conveniency hardly compare to VW.Filename. > > For example, I'd like a #directoryExists without argument, It took me > some times before I discovered it's #exists > > So you have to write: > (FileDirectory default containingDirectory exists). > > But, beforing smiling, you'll have to try this: > (FileDirectory on: '/') containingDirectory. > > Hehe, I don't like this class > > Nicolas > > 2010/12/30 Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com>: >> Of course, the default directory is not a root dir of my file system :) >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Igor Stasenko AKA sig. >> >> >

Dec. 30, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3485 in pharo: VMMaker does not load on Pharo 1.2

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Eliot johan is not that idiot. So far when I see what they built for their company this is more the inverse. He spent several days trying to figure out how to manage decently the source. I will check with him what they did but they probably tried to extract information from all the methods in the system. changeStamp "Answer a string to be pasted into source code to mark who changed it and when." ^ Author fullName , ' ' , Date today mmddyyyy, ' ', ((String streamContents: [:s | Time now print24: true on: s]) copyFrom: 1 to: 5) Now how can I identify a comment from a person and and action? Beginning until a space? date end until a space? We can do that. It looks like a hack to me. People are building tools to **help** us but if we push on them unstructured data then we push the shit on them. Let's take a simple example: benjamin smart, young student rewrote the recentMessage tools and the finder for fun. Now the state of MethodReference and its clunky use made something trivial just a big pain. I do not even talk about the change format which need scanner invocation to distinguish between a class def and a doit. So if we do not offer a good infrastructure we will be stuck for years with old tools. Some people do not like change at all but we value it for the better. On Dec 30, 2010, at 12:47 AM, Eliot Miranda wrote: > > > On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 1:51 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > > > The documented format is: > > > > Timestampstrings can be of the form: > > <authorname><date><time>. > > <authorname><date> > > <date><time> > > <date><time><authorname> > > <date><authorname> > > <historical> > > > > > > Says /who/? When I created all these timestamps to document a refactoring change there was no documented restriction on timestamps I could see. Why impose restrictions which have little value? Why needlessly break compatibility? That timestamp *contains useful information*. Why ban it? > > > > If you *want* VMMaker to load in Pharo you need to ensure that Pharo supports the timestamps *that exist* not the timestamps you want to impose on the community. > > Eliot we do not impose anything to the community. Please do not bash us we have enough to do without that! > > Steph, /I'm/ not bashing. I got bashed. Suddenly the comments I'd put in VMMaker were to be banned by Pharo. Look, the timestamp syntax if any, is defined by Utilities class>>changeStamp, along with the implicit restriction that the changeStamp can't contain an exclamation point, or it'll break parsing. Utilities class>>changeStamp is essentially anything followed by date and time, because there are /no/ restrictions on what one sets the Author initials to be (some people use full name, some people use initials, some people use put other stuff in there, but it's free apart from the $!). So to parse date and time one has to start at the end of the timestamp, go back two spaces and parse from there (ooh, difficult ;) ). There's no need for anything else. Why make life difficult for the community by imposing syntax when none existed before? All you'll do is make work and frustrate people. Is Pharo about helping or hindering? I think it's about helping, but the above syntax restrictions don't feel like that. KISS, right? If you want to find the date or time in a timestamp start at the end, and leave the beginning free from interpretation. > > 2Â¢ > > > Apparently the code was like that and people (may be johan) started to make sense out of it. > > Stef >

Dec. 30, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] source.lukas-renggli.ch is down

by Marcus Denker

On Dec 30, 2010, at 10:20 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > > On Dec 29, 2010, at 3:19 PM, Stephan Eggermont wrote: > >> Philippe wrote: >>> On 29.12.2010 11:01, St?phane Ducasse wrote: >>> We know. I will reask again for our web-dav server. >> >>> You're actually working in a big bank, aren't you Stef? I can tell by >>> the time it takes you to get a web-dav server ;-) >> >> No, in a bank they would have asked him why he needs his own Exchange server. > > :) > this is what I'm doing now. They will ask me why I need to pay for my own server :) I wil check if we can not use Amazon AWS in some form... -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

Dec. 30, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] what happened with Shout colors in Pharo 1.1?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

I tired 1.0 and 1.1 and I could not see the difference. What would be nice is to avoid italic for comments (even if I hate green) Stef > So...can we agree that the colors in Pharo 1.2 are bad and that we cannot even distinguish between temp vars and inst var? > > I propose to come back to the original colors of Pharo 1.0 as Ramon suggested in this thread. > > If you agree, I publish right now the code into a ticket. > > Cheers > > mariano > > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > If you want the black for normal selectors (new theme), what do you think about this one (even if I prefer ramon one) > > {((Array new: 3) at: 1 put: #invalid; at: 2 put: (Color r: 1.0 g: 0.0 b: 0.0); at: 3 put: #normal; yourself). ((Array new: 3) at: 1 put: #excessCode; at: 2 put: (Color r: 1.0 g: 0.0 b: 0.0); at: 3 put: #normal; yourself). ((Array new: 3) at: 1 put: #undefinedKeyword; at: 2 put: (Color r: 1.0 g: 0.0 b: 0.0); at: 3 put: #normal; yourself). 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((Array new: 3) at: 1 put: #primitiveOrExternalCallEnd; at: 2 put: (Color r: 0.5 g: 0.5 b: 0.5); at: 3 put: #normal; yourself)} > > (sorry but it was already set...) > > > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 9:50 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks Levente, but yes, still agree with Ramon. > > Anyway, this is why this is a preference, and it is not fixed. But anyway, we should select a better default one. > > cheers > > mariano > > > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Ramon Leon <ramon.leon(a)allresnet.com> wrote: > On 10/25/2010 12:35 PM, Levente Uzonyi wrote: > On Mon, 25 Oct 2010, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > Sorry Simon, but I agree with Ramon. It is much clear for my eyes :) > > Check out this (the formatting may be broken, but it should work): > > Nope, you've removed the bold, I like the bold, it makes the color stand out. Without bold, you can barely see the colors. > > -- > Ramon Leon > http://onsmalltalk.com > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > >

Dec. 30, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] source.lukas-renggli.ch is down

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Dec 29, 2010, at 3:19 PM, Stephan Eggermont wrote: > Philippe wrote: >> On 29.12.2010 11:01, St?phane Ducasse wrote: >> We know. I will reask again for our web-dav server. > >> You're actually working in a big bank, aren't you Stef? I can tell by >> the time it takes you to get a web-dav server ;-) > > No, in a bank they would have asked him why he needs his own Exchange server. :) this is what I'm doing now. They will ask me why I need to pay for my own server :) > > Stephan >

Dec. 30, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] (FileDirectory default directoryExists: '..') answers false on Mac OS

by Nicolas Cellier

Yes, and (FileDirectory default directoryExists: '.') is false too... Don't you hate this FileDirectory thing ? It's conveniency hardly compare to VW.Filename. For example, I'd like a #directoryExists without argument, It took me some times before I discovered it's #exists So you have to write: (FileDirectory default containingDirectory exists). But, beforing smiling, you'll have to try this: (FileDirectory on: '/') containingDirectory. Hehe, I don't like this class Nicolas 2010/12/30 Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com>: > Of course, the default directory is not a root dir of my file system :) > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. > >

Dec. 30, 2010

[Pharo-project] (FileDirectory default directoryExists: '..') answers false on Mac OS

by Igor Stasenko

Of course, the default directory is not a root dir of my file system :) -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

Dec. 30, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3495 in pharo: Cannot copy text of System -> About

by pharo＠googlecode.com

Updates: Status: Fixed Comment #2 on issue 3495 by aplantec: Cannot copy text of System -> About http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3495 Fixed Now, no special case anymore concerning which commands are allowed or not (so copy/past should work and no need for #handleDisabledKey: anymore). But text modifying is allowed only if the textmorph editview is enabled. SLICE-Issue-3495-Cannot-copy-text-of-System---About

Dec. 30, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3485 in pharo: VMMaker does not load on Pharo 1.2

by Eliot Miranda

On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 1:51 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > wrote: > > > > The documented format is: > > > > Timestampstrings can be of the form: > > <authorname><date><time>. > > <authorname><date> > > <date><time> > > <date><time><authorname> > > <date><authorname> > > <historical> > > > > > > Says /who/? When I created all these timestamps to document a > refactoring change there was no documented restriction on timestamps I could > see. Why impose restrictions which have little value? Why needlessly break > compatibility? That timestamp *contains useful information*. Why ban it? > > > > If you *want* VMMaker to load in Pharo you need to ensure that Pharo > supports the timestamps *that exist* not the timestamps you want to impose > on the community. > > Eliot we do not impose anything to the community. Please do not bash us we > have enough to do without that! > Steph, /I'm/ not bashing. I got bashed. Suddenly the comments I'd put in VMMaker were to be banned by Pharo. Look, the timestamp syntax if any, is defined by Utilities class>>changeStamp, along with the implicit restriction that the changeStamp can't contain an exclamation point, or it'll break parsing. Utilities class>>changeStamp is essentially anything followed by date and time, because there are /no/ restrictions on what one sets the Author initials to be (some people use full name, some people use initials, some people use put other stuff in there, but it's free apart from the $!). So to parse date and time one has to start at the end of the timestamp, go back two spaces and parse from there (ooh, difficult ;) ). There's no need for anything else. Why make life difficult for the community by imposing syntax when none existed before? All you'll do is make work and frustrate people. Is Pharo about helping or hindering? I think it's about helping, but the above syntax restrictions don't feel like that. KISS, right? If you want to find the date or time in a timestamp start at the end, and leave the beginning free from interpretation. 2Â¢ > Apparently the code was like that and people (may be johan) started to make > sense out of it. > > Stef >

Dec. 29, 2010