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[Pharo-project] About preloaded packages

by Torsten Bergmann

>I would favor push metacello so that in one click people can load what they >want. You already can. Push the config to the Metacello Repository for 1.2 on squeaksource.com and use the configuration browser. You can then load the config or the lates version with a few clicks. There are questions left/to discuss ... but at least that works already. Bye T. BTW: Squeaksource is down today -- NEU: FreePhone - kostenlos mobil telefonieren und surfen! Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone

Jan. 7, 2011

[Pharo-project] next irc meeting: Thursday 13 at 21h

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi guys Let us know if this is ok and that we broadcast it. the channel is #pharo-project on irc.freenode.net. If you don't have an IRC client you can browse to http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=pharo-project http://www.timeanddate.com/counters/customcounter.html?day=13&month=1&year=… Stef

Jan. 7, 2011

[Pharo-project] About preloaded packages

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi guys I would really like that pharo-dev does not contain too many libraries pre loaded (for example XMLSupport). I would favor push metacello so that in one click people can load what they want. Stef

Jan. 7, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] announcements and weak references

by Tudor Girba

Stupid me: | x array | x := OrderedCollection new. array := WeakArray with: x. x := nil. Smalltalk garbageCollect. array first ==> nil. Ok, this being the case the original question still remains: Is there any effort to make Announcements only use weak references? I am not much of a specialist in this, but I would be first hand interested in helping out. Cheers, Doru On 7 Jan 2011, at 08:00, Lukas Renggli wrote: > On Friday, 7 January 2011, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Are there any plans to get Announcements use weak references? >> >> I saw that in the repository of Lukas, there is a WeakAnnouncer. However, here the subscriptions are still held in a regular Dictionary. >> >> Actually, I am not sure what is the status of weak references. I tried the following, but it does not seem to work: >> >> | x array | >> x := GLMPane new. >> array := WeakArray with: x. >> x := nil. >> Smalltalk garbageCollect. >> array size >> >> ==> 1 > > Arrays never change their size, it is the value of the fisrt slot that > changes to 0 or nil (i don't remember). > > Lukas > >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "We cannot reach the flow of things unless we let go." >> >> >> >> >> > > -- > Lukas Renggli > www.lukas-renggli.ch > -- www.tudorgirba.com "In a world where everything is moving ever faster, one might have better chances to win by moving slower."

Jan. 7, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] announcements and weak references

by Lukas Renggli

On Friday, 7 January 2011, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Are there any plans to get Announcements use weak references? > > I saw that in the repository of Lukas, there is a WeakAnnouncer. However, here the subscriptions are still held in a regular Dictionary. > > Actually, I am not sure what is the status of weak references. I tried the following, but it does not seem to work: > > | x array | > x := GLMPane new. > array := WeakArray with: x. > x := nil. > Smalltalk garbageCollect. > array size > > ==> 1 Arrays never change their size, it is the value of the fisrt slot that changes to 0 or nil (i don't remember). Lukas > > Cheers, > Doru > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "We cannot reach the flow of things unless we let go." > > > > > -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

Jan. 7, 2011

[Pharo-project] announcements and weak references

by Tudor Girba

Hi, Are there any plans to get Announcements use weak references? I saw that in the repository of Lukas, there is a WeakAnnouncer. However, here the subscriptions are still held in a regular Dictionary. Actually, I am not sure what is the status of weak references. I tried the following, but it does not seem to work: | x array | x := GLMPane new. array := WeakArray with: x. x := nil. Smalltalk garbageCollect. array size ==> 1 Cheers, Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com "We cannot reach the flow of things unless we let go."

Jan. 7, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] wiki style help

by Tudor Girba

Nice. Doru On 7 Jan 2011, at 07:33, Alain Plantec wrote: > I've changed the section start character from $= to $! as in Pier. > Now, such a help text can be compatible with the pier parser. > Cheers > Alain > > Le 07/01/2011 00:08, Alain Plantec a Ã©crit : >> Le 06/01/2011 23:55, Tudor Girba a Ã©crit : >>> That's cool, but why not use the Pier model/parser? >> not against except that it would depend on other packages. >> it implies that it would not be possible for the core. >> this implementation is only made of an additional class with 3 methods. >> at least one could use the pier syntax for declaring sections >> Cheers >> Alain >>> Cheers, >>> Doru >>> >>> >>> On 6 Jan 2011, at 23:33, Alain Plantec wrote: >>> >>>> Hello! >>>> I've prototyped a small addon for the help system. >>>> It allows the using of formatted text "a la wiki" >>>> for editing help pages. >>>> help pages are retrieved thanks to a pragma. >>>> In order to write an help, only 2 steps >>>> >>>> * Step1: You edit you help as follow: >>>> = Introduction >>>> Your intro here >>>> = Section 1 >>>> bla bla >>>> == Section 1.1 >>>> blo blo blo >>>> === Subsubsection 1.1.1 >>>> =Section 2 >>>> == Section 2.1 >>>> =Conclusion >>>> >>>> * Step 2: then you implement a method with a pragma >>>> that return the formatted string: >>>> Here, the help is in the comment of the class. >>>> >>>> SomeClass class>>help >>>> <wikiStyleHelp: #'A wiki style help example'> >>>> ^ self comment >>>> >>>> ... and you have your help (see screenshot) >>>> >>>> You also can use only a subpart of a comment by using a tag. >>>> <help> >>>> you wiki style comments here >>>> </help> >>>> >>>> It is very simple and it allows the using of comments (less help duplication ?). >>>> Concerning the builder approach, maybe we don't >>>> need it because we can use text markup. >>>> >>>> try it with HelpSystem-Core-AlainPlantec.69 in PharoTaskForces >>>> It works. >>>> not documented >>>> no tests >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> Alain >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> <wikiStyleHelp.png> >>> -- >>> www.tudorgirba.com >>> >>> "Speaking louder won't make the point worthier." >>> >>> >> >> > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "If you interrupt the barber while he is cutting your hair, you will end up with a messy haircut."

Jan. 7, 2011

[Pharo-project] SqueakSource is down

by Alain Plantec

Jan. 7, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] wiki style help

by Alain Plantec

I've changed the section start character from $= to $! as in Pier. Now, such a help text can be compatible with the pier parser. Cheers Alain Le 07/01/2011 00:08, Alain Plantec a Ã©crit : > Le 06/01/2011 23:55, Tudor Girba a Ã©crit : >> That's cool, but why not use the Pier model/parser? > not against except that it would depend on other packages. > it implies that it would not be possible for the core. > this implementation is only made of an additional class with 3 methods. > at least one could use the pier syntax for declaring sections > Cheers > Alain >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> On 6 Jan 2011, at 23:33, Alain Plantec wrote: >> >>> Hello! >>> I've prototyped a small addon for the help system. >>> It allows the using of formatted text "a la wiki" >>> for editing help pages. >>> help pages are retrieved thanks to a pragma. >>> In order to write an help, only 2 steps >>> >>> * Step1: You edit you help as follow: >>> = Introduction >>> Your intro here >>> = Section 1 >>> bla bla >>> == Section 1.1 >>> blo blo blo >>> === Subsubsection 1.1.1 >>> =Section 2 >>> == Section 2.1 >>> =Conclusion >>> >>> * Step 2: then you implement a method with a pragma >>> that return the formatted string: >>> Here, the help is in the comment of the class. >>> >>> SomeClass class>>help >>> <wikiStyleHelp: #'A wiki style help example'> >>> ^ self comment >>> >>> ... and you have your help (see screenshot) >>> >>> You also can use only a subpart of a comment by using a tag. >>> <help> >>> you wiki style comments here >>> </help> >>> >>> It is very simple and it allows the using of comments (less help >>> duplication ?). >>> Concerning the builder approach, maybe we don't >>> need it because we can use text markup. >>> >>> try it with HelpSystem-Core-AlainPlantec.69 in PharoTaskForces >>> It works. >>> not documented >>> no tests >>> >>> Cheers >>> Alain >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> <wikiStyleHelp.png> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "Speaking louder won't make the point worthier." >> >> > >

Jan. 7, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Origins [poll]

by laurent laffont

Jan. 7, 2011