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Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo TechTalk Dates

by Marcus Denker

> On 18 Jan 2018, at 15:35, Alistair Grant <akgrant0710(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Marcus, > > Suggested topic: Contributing to Pharo7. :-) Indeed! The Feb 15 Date seems good for that. Marcus

Jan. 18, 2018

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo TechTalk Dates

by Alistair Grant

Hi Marcus, Suggested topic: Contributing to Pharo7. :-) Thanks! Alistair On 18 January 2018 at 14:52, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Hi, > > Here are the next dates for the Pharo Techtalks. > (for recording of the past ones, see: http://pharo.org/TechTalk ) > > > Jan 30: Pharo TechTalk: Genetic Algorithms > https://association.pharo.org/event-2757884 > > For the others we have no topic yet, but dates are pre-fixed to: > > Feb 15 > https://association.pharo.org/event-2797065 > > March 22 > https://association.pharo.org/event-2797067 > > April 12 > https://association.pharo.org/event-2797068 > > May 17 > https://association.pharo.org/event-2797069 > > June 14 > https://association.pharo.org/event-2797070 > > > - If you have ideas for topics, please tell us! > - With no topic, we will use this slot for a general free discussion. > - If you want to do a TechTalk about a topic but no date is good, we can > change the date! > > Marcus >

Jan. 18, 2018

[ANN] Pharo TechTalk Dates

by Marcus Denker

Hi, Here are the next dates for the Pharo Techtalks. (for recording of the past ones, see: http://pharo.org/TechTalk ) Jan 30: Pharo TechTalk: Genetic Algorithms https://association.pharo.org/event-2757884 For the others we have no topic yet, but dates are pre-fixed to: Feb 15 https://association.pharo.org/event-2797065 March 22 https://association.pharo.org/event-2797067 April 12 https://association.pharo.org/event-2797068 May 17 https://association.pharo.org/event-2797069 June 14 https://association.pharo.org/event-2797070 - If you have ideas for topics, please tell us! - With no topic, we will use this slot for a general free discussion. - If you want to do a TechTalk about a topic but no date is good, we can change the date! Marcus

Jan. 18, 2018

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Updating Consultants Listing

by Marcus Denker

This is the next step. The association database has an API and we can auto-generate the list. I wanted to not enforce membership manualy before this this is implemented. It is important to bound it to something so it does not end up like the âcompanies using Smalltalkâ lis of ESUG, where entries are added but old ones *never* removedâ¦ as when you stop using something you tend to not ask to be removed. I am sure some of the entries of the consultants list are stale already. With binding it to the association, people that leave the community will stop membership and thus the list will be up to date automatically. And it is one the things that make sense to offer as part of a membership. Marcus > On 18 Jan 2018, at 09:20, Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Consultants listed on this board are not gold association member like said here ? > https://association.pharo.org/Benefits <https://association.pharo.org/Benefits> > > On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 5:27 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote: > Hi, > > We have http://consultants.pharo.org <http://consultants.pharo.org/> > > I want to change it to > - not be a forward to files.pharo.org <http://files.pharo.org/> > - be auto-generated from the https://association.pharo.org <https://association.pharo.org/> > > > But we should update it already before that is finished. So: > > If you want to be listed, please send your infos in the form: > > PharoConsultant { > #name : Your name', > #email : your(a)email.com <mailto:your@email.com>', > #website : 'http://your-website.com <http://your-website.com/>', > #id : 'yourname (currently not used for anything)', > #location : 'City, Country of your business', > #languages : 'what languages do you speak', > #industryExperienceSince : 1994, > #pharoExperienceSince : 2008, > #areasOfExpertise : 'what are your areas of expertise. E.g. business apllications, user interface, legacy, ...', > #smalltalkExperienceSince : 2002 > } > > (or open a pull request at: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-project-consultants/ <https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-project-consultants/>) > > Marcus > > > > -- > Serge Stinckwich > UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC/UY1) > "Programs must be written for people to read, and only incidentally for machines to execute." > http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/ <http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/>

Jan. 18, 2018

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Updating Consultants Listing

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

> On 18 Jan 2018, at 09:20, Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Consultants listed on this board are not gold association member like said here ? > https://association.pharo.org/Benefits We've never been strict on this, but yes, the idea is that anyone who wants to be listed as 'Pharo Consultant' should either be an Association Gold member or a Consortium member. I think that is the least we can ask for. After all, this is publicity for a commercial activity. > On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 5:27 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Hi, > > We have http://consultants.pharo.org > > I want to change it to > - not be a forward to files.pharo.org > - be auto-generated from the https://association.pharo.org > > > But we should update it already before that is finished. So: > > If you want to be listed, please send your infos in the form: > > PharoConsultant { > #name : Your name', > #email : your(a)email.com', > #website : 'http://your-website.com', > #id : 'yourname (currently not used for anything)', > #location : 'City, Country of your business', > #languages : 'what languages do you speak', > #industryExperienceSince : 1994, > #pharoExperienceSince : 2008, > #areasOfExpertise : 'what are your areas of expertise. E.g. business apllications, user interface, legacy, ...', > #smalltalkExperienceSince : 2002 > } > > (or open a pull request at: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-project-consultants/) > > Marcus > > > > -- > Serge Stinckwich > UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC/UY1) > "Programs must be written for people to read, and only incidentally for machines to execute." > http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/

Jan. 18, 2018

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Updating Consultants Listing

by Serge Stinckwich

Consultants listed on this board are not gold association member like said here ? https://association.pharo.org/Benefits On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 5:27 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Hi, > > We have http://consultants.pharo.org > > I want to change it to > - not be a forward to files.pharo.org > - be auto-generated from the https://association.pharo.org > > > But we should update it already before that is finished. So: > > If you want to be listed, please send your infos in the form: > > PharoConsultant { > #name : Your name', > #email : your(a)email.com <your(a)email.com>', > #website : 'http://your-website.com', > #id : 'yourname (currently not used for anything)', > #location : 'City, Country of your business', > #languages : 'what languages do you speak', > #industryExperienceSince : 1994, > #pharoExperienceSince : 2008, > #areasOfExpertise : 'what are your areas of expertise. E.g. business > apllications, user interface, legacy, ...', > #smalltalkExperienceSince : 2002 > } > > (or open a pull request at: https://github.com/pharo- > project/pharo-project-consultants/) > > Marcus > -- Serge Stinckwich UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC/UY1) "Programs must be written for people to read, and only incidentally for machines to execute."http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/

Jan. 18, 2018

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [Vm-dev] Running headless on Windows

by Nicolai Hess

2017-12-29 16:53 GMT+01:00 Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com>: > 2017-12-29 16:13 GMT+01:00 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat(a)gmail.com>: > >> Nicolai, the maximize/non-maximize trick worked! Thanks! I wonder if it's >> an easy fix to put in Pharo. >> > > So it means that something in image is not initialised. It can be another > bug of wrong startup order > Maybe a problem on the image and the vm side. Even in headless mode, starting pharo creates a window. Even if it is hidden, it has some size. Quit and Saving an image will write the current width/height into the image file. Starting the vm will create a window and set the size of the window to the last size. The window is always created in normal (not-maximized) mode and the available size is a little bit smaller than for a maximized window. Now, the image checks for a change of the size of the current DisplayScreen instance and the actual screen size. If this is different (as in this case) a new DisplayScreen is initialized which will call a full screen update (ioForceDisplayUpdate). And this method will show a hidden (headless) image. > > >> >> On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 6:22 AM, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be> >> wrote: >> >>> I am using nssm because the service option is broken. >>> >>> The code seems to still be in the image but disabled (there are quite a >>> few things like that actually). >>> >>> Phil >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 11:59 AM, Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hi, (cross posting vm-dev) >>>> >>>> nssm is nice - but requires additional tools. >>>> >>>> Since the days of Squeak the windows VM had the >>>> >>>> -service "ServiceName" >>>> >>>> option and one was able to run Squeak as a windows service out of the >>>> box. >>>> >>>> See http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/105 for details. >>>> >>>> This option allows to register/deregister with the windows service >>>> manager and run >>>> a headless image. >>>> >>>> I run a Squeak Wiki (Swiki/Comanche) since years with this and it is >>>> very nice and stable. >>>> >>>> Unfortunately this is broken in recent Pharo VMs and so far Esteban or >>>> others did not >>>> have the time to look into this issue. Would be really nice if this >>>> option could >>>> be recovered in 2018. So one could easily deploy and run Seaside or >>>> Teapot/Tealight >>>> or Zinc/WebClient based web services on Windows. >>>> >>>> If we want to deploy Smalltalk based web applications or services on >>>> Windows we >>>> should support that. It will keep Windows administrators happy and we >>>> would integrate with >>>> the whole ecosystem (for instance you can start/stop a service using >>>> Windows scripting for >>>> doing backups, etc.) right out of the box. >>>> >>>> Bye >>>> T. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Gesendet: Freitag, 29. Dezember 2017 um 11:36 Uhr >>>> Von: "phil(a)highoctane.be" <phil(a)highoctane.be> >>>> An: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> >>>> Betreff: Re: [Pharo-users] Running headless on Windows >>>> >>>> If you want to run Pharo as a service, I have found nssm to be working >>>> well. >>>> https://nssm.cc >>>> >>>> Phil >>>> >>>> On Dec 29, 2017 09:25, "Nicolai Hess" <nicolaihess@gmail.com[mailto: >>>> nicolaihess(a)gmail.com]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> 2017-12-29 3:07 GMT+01:00 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat@gmail.com[mailto: >>>> lispercat(a)gmail.com]>: >>>> Pierce, I tried all of those "no display" options, the result is the >>>> same >>>> >>>> >>>> On Dec 28, 2017 8:37 PM, "Pierce Ng" <pierce@samadhiweb.com[mailto: >>>> pierce(a)samadhiweb.com]> wrote:On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 04:58:39PM >>>> +0100, Cyril Ferlicot D. wrote: >>>> > On 12/27/2017 04:39 PM, Andrei Stebakov wrote: >>>> > > When I run Pharo 6.1 with -- headless option on Windows, it >>>> executes the >>>> > > eval command as expected but during the execution (which lasts 4 >>>> sec) it >>>> > > opens the Pharo GUI. >>>> > > Is it expected? I thought headless means that the whole execution >>>> would >>>> > > happen in the background >>>> > >>>> > I think that currently Pharo does not have a "real" headless. But I >>>> > heard there was work on that part for Pharo 7. >>>> >>>> I know OP is talking about Windows... I've been running server >>>> applications on >>>> Linux without X11 with -vm-display-null and in-image RFBServer for >>>> access to >>>> Pharo over VNC. This works very well for me. >>>> >>>> I believe "real" headless means GUI is not run at all and therefore >>>> does not >>>> consume CPU cycles, which is very welcome. Meanwhile, maybe >>>> -vm-display-null >>>> works on Windows for scripting purposes? >>>> >>>> Pierce >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Andrei, >>>> >>>> can you try this: >>>> >>>> Open Pharo normal (no headless option). >>>> Change the window size to "not-maximized" (eve if it is actually not >>>> maximized, maximize it ones and change it back to "not-maximized") >>>> Save and quit the image. >>>> >>>> After that, a call like >>>> >>>> pharo --headless pharo.image eval "DateAndTime now" >>>> will write the output to the stdout file, without opening a window. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >

Jan. 18, 2018

Re: [Pharo-dev] [IMPORTANT] PHARO CONTRIBUTION PROCESS UPDATED! PLEASE READ!

by Martin Dias

Max, Esteban, Denis: Thanks! it worked: https://github.com/pharo- project/pharo/pull/690 I didn't have to add or remove packages as in step 5, but I did have to 'Synchronize full repository' as in step 6. Luke, this is offtopic, but here is a brief guide to use epicea after you lost changes: 1. reopen the image and select "Code Changes" from the world menu > tools. 2. click on left side items: they are change log files. 3. look at the logged changes on right side: the most recent ones are on top. 4. you can select a single or multiple changes, right click and "apply". Also there is a button "Filters" with options that can help you to remove from the view changes you don't want to see. BTW, the "apply" of multiple changes will work better after the PR is merged. MartÃn On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 8:20 AM, Luke Gorrie <luke(a)snabb.co> wrote: > Just one data point... > > I am completely overwhelmed by all of the different ways to manage source > code in the Pharo universe. I would love to contribute to upstream but this > seems way out of reach: I'm not even managing to keep track of the code in > my own home directory properly yet. > > Just now I am looking at upstream code that should be fixed: CairoLibrary > unix32ModuleName and unix64ModuleName are giving higher priority to guessed > hard-coded paths than to LD_LIBRARY_PATH and this is backwards i.e. the > carefully selected paths a user supplies with LD_LIBRARY_PATH should come > first (imho.) > > On the one hand it would be fine to dive into the upstream contribution > process to work out how to do this. On the other hand I am still trying to > master tools like Epica to recover useful code that I have written and lost > track of when images crash and get rebuilt etc. I really need to get this > under control before spending time learning Iceberg, FogBugz, etc. > > > > > On 14 December 2017 at 13:19, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> Iâm working on simplifying the contribution process, after collecting >> opinions/experiences last couple of months. >> As you know, Pharo contribution process is still WIP and we aim to have >> it as smooth as possible for Pharo 7.0 release. Now, after observe the idea >> of the âsystem repositoriesâ was a bad idea because it introduced extra and >> non standard âpathâ to contribution, I managed to remove that to >> reestablish âthe regular wayâ: you will now need to add pharo repository >> just as any other repository you add, by cloning or adding local repository. >> >> I took Guilleâs doc and moved it to pharo project (it does not has sense >> to have it living in a contributorâs repository when is so important). You >> can find it here: >> >> https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/wiki/Contribute-a-fix-to-Pharo >> >> This document is also updated to reveal this new process, please read it. >> >> How to update your startup scripts? >> Some people has added startup scripts to easy the first part of >> contribution. Instead enabling system repositories, etc. you now need to >> replace that with this: >> >> (IceRepositoryCreator new >> location: '/path/to/pharo-project/pharo' asFileReference; >> subdirectory: 'src'; >> createRepository) >> register >> >> PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASEâ¦ take a moment to read and try the document. Is >> very important that document reflects new process and works reliable in >> different scenarios (I validated it on macOS and Windows, and assumed it >> worked fine on linux but you knowâ¦ bad assumptions is the base of failure >> ;) ) >> >> Iâm eager to hear your feedback and continue enhancing the process. >> >> (yes, Stef, I know UI is still cumbersomeâ¦ Iâm working on that :) ) >> >> cheers! >> Esteban >> > >

Jan. 18, 2018

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Dates Pharo Sprints 2018 till June

by Peter UhnÃ¡k

No worries, it's a "nice to have". :) Peter On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 5:44 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > I will seeâ¦ the problem is that this is then yet another thing to maintain. > > On 13 Jan 2018, at 10:32, Peter UhnÃ¡k <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > is it possible to add the events as a google calendar so it updates > automatically? > > Thanks, > Peter > > On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 2:37 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> For Pharo sprints for the next months, we suggest these dates: >> >> Jan 26 >> Feb 23 >> Mar 30 >> Apr 20 >> Mai 25 >> Jun 29 >> >> >> I have added the first one already to the events page: >> https://association.pharo.org/events >> >> the others will be added later. >> Marcus >> > > >

Jan. 17, 2018

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Dates Pharo Sprints 2018 till June

by Marcus Denker

I will seeâ¦ the problem is that this is then yet another thing to maintain. > On 13 Jan 2018, at 10:32, Peter UhnÃ¡k <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > is it possible to add the events as a google calendar so it updates automatically? > > Thanks, > Peter > > On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 2:37 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote: > Hi, > > For Pharo sprints for the next months, we suggest these dates: > > Jan 26 > Feb 23 > Mar 30 > Apr 20 > Mai 25 > Jun 29 > > > I have added the first one already to the events page: > > https://association.pharo.org/events <https://association.pharo.org/events> > > the others will be added later. > > Marcus >

Jan. 17, 2018