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Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Do we want this for Pharo 1.2 and futures?

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 7:24 AM, Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito(a)gmail.com > wrote: > I've always ignored them ;) Me too. For me, we can remove them. But I am wondering if other people find it useful...maybe newcomers? (this is why I also included pharo-users mailing list) cheers mariano > > > On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck < > marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> In Pharo 1.0 and 1.1 I used to include certain files in addition to the >> .image and .changes. These files were: changelog.txt, installScript.st and >> packages.txt >> So...what do you think? are they (still) useful ? if true, then we >> should add it to hudson. If not, we just ignore it. >> >> Thanks >> >> Mariano >> > >

March 13, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] the glamorous toolkit project

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Tudor/Ben, did you think about "rewrting" the new UI tools like Recent Messages, Finder, etc...using Glamour ? On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 1:24 AM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > +1000 Great initiative and most welcomed. > And as you said, even if you don't do most, a planing, coordination > and bugging people around helps as well :) > > On 12 March 2011 08:25, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I would like to promote the idea of projects in Pharo. The concept is > simple: we should build new infrastructures that go beyond small fixes and > that require the concerted work of multiple people over a longer period of > time. > > > > A project has a clear goal, and is led by someone. That someone is not > necessarily the one that writes all the code (like we might tend to do it), > but simply one that ensures that the project advances, that the different > contributions are integrated, and that things are not left at 90%. > > > > I would like to announce the Glamorous Tool project. The goal of this > project is to provide a new set of tools for developing with Pharo. It is to > be developed on top of Glamour, and it should address at least the > followings: > > - Coder (ex-System Browser) > > - Debugger > > - Inspector > > - Playground (ex-Workspace - it's not called Workspace anymore because I > would like to encourage people not to "work" there) > > - Chaser (senders, implementors and references) > > > > The project spans several topics. For example: > > - Glamour support > > - Morphic enhancements: > > --- Proper TextMorph with keybindings and context sensitiveness > > --- Collapsable Panes > > --- Scalable tabs > > --- Parallel rendering > > - Suitable models > > --- RPackage > > --- Code introspection > > --- Debugger model > > - Testing > > --- Because these tools are so critical, they should be robust > > --- OB is a good example for the testing part > > - Usability > > --- Principle: Spawning a window might be easy, but it is not effective > > --- Principle: Uniformity > > --- Principle: Less concepts are better than many > > - Graphic design of skins and icons > > > > - Weak announcements > > you can make it bold (or what else you do to mark that it is done and > ready to be integrated :) > > > - Performance > > > > > > I will lead it, and you are welcome to participate. The today sprint is a > good occasion to take a look. The current code can be found at: > > > > Gofer new > > squeaksource: 'glamoroust'; > > package: 'ConfigurationOfGlamoroust'; > > load. > > (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfGlamoroust) perform: #loadDefault. > > > > > > Cheers, > > Doru > > > > -- > > www.tudorgirba.com > > > > "Sometimes the best solution is not the best solution." > > > > > > > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. > >

March 13, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Update process broken by 13084

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

yes now I see it. I will try to see what we can do. Argh..... On Mar 13, 2011, at 12:29 AM, Henrik Sperre Johansen wrote: > See title. > Probably caused by saving from multiple open copies of the same image so > the .changes file source was exported from was corrupted :) > > Cheers, > Henry >

March 13, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Do you want to add the background picture to the image like we did with Pharo 1.1 ?

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Hi all. Choosing a picture is complicated, because not all people like it, and you have to be very careful with colors and themes. I liked the one of Pharo 1.1 because it is the same background it is used in pharo website, in pharo casts, and in all pharo slides. I would like to continue with it, and those who want a real picture, you can even do it from the settings browser ;) For example, for my project, Marea, I always put a picture of a tidy... Cheers Mariano On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Noury Bouraqadi <bouraqadi(a)gmail.com>wrote: > > On 13 mars 2011, at 07:59, Guillermo Polito wrote: > > > Forgot the faded one? Like the idea :) > > > Here it is. But, I prefer the other one with saturated colors. > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 3:35 AM, Noury Bouraqadi <bouraqadi(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > Just got an idea. What about using a picture of some "physical" pharo. > > On every new version we can change the pharo. > > I'm not good at graphics but here is a sketch of the idea using a picture > of mine (in small size). > > I put the original and the faded one. > > > > Noury > > > > > > > > On 12 mars 2011, at 23:39, Igor Stasenko wrote: > > > > > On 12 March 2011 21:15, Noury Bouraqadi <bouraqadi(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >> +1. > > >> I suggest to change the background for every new version. > > >> Also put the version number next the logo. > > >> > > > +1 now the question what background should be used by 1.2 release? > > > > > >> > > >> On 12 mars 2011, at 20:16, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > >> > > >>> If I could decide, I would vote for it :) I like it. > > >>> > > >>> If you agree, then it is very easy to add to hudson, just modify > (marcus?) the Pharo.st used to build the images to do something like this: > World backgroundImage: (ImageReadWriter formFromFileNamed: > 'pharoBackground.png') layout: #scaled. > > >>> > > >>> I attach here the picture used. > > >>> > > >>> Cheers > > >>> > > >>> Mariano > > >>> <pharoBackground.png> > > >> > > >> Noury Bouraqadi > > >> http://car.mines-douai.fr/noury > > >> -- > > >> -6th National Conference on > > >> âControl Architecture of Robotsâ > > >> 24-25 may 2011, Grenoble area, France > > >> http://car2011.inrialpes.fr/ > > >> > > >> -19th ESUG International Smalltalk Conference > > >> 22-26 August 2011, Edinburgh, UK > > >> http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2011 > > >> > > >> -19Ã¨mes JournÃ©es Francophones sur les SystÃ¨mes Multi-Agents (JFSMAâ11) > > >> http://www.univ-valenciennes.fr/congres/jfsma2011/ > > >> 17-19 Octobre 2011, Valenciennes, France > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Best regards, > > > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. > > > > > > > Noury Bouraqadi > > http://car.mines-douai.fr/noury > > -- > > -6th National Conference on > > âControl Architecture of Robotsâ > > 24-25 may 2011, Grenoble area, France > > http://car2011.inrialpes.fr/ > > > > -19th ESUG International Smalltalk Conference > > 22-26 August 2011, Edinburgh, UK > > http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2011 > > > > -19Ã¨mes JournÃ©es Francophones sur les SystÃ¨mes Multi-Agents (JFSMAâ11) > > http://www.univ-valenciennes.fr/congres/jfsma2011/ > > 17-19 Octobre 2011, Valenciennes, France > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Noury Bouraqadi > http://car.mines-douai.fr/noury > -- > -6th National Conference on > âControl Architecture of Robotsâ > 24-25 may 2011, Grenoble area, France > http://car2011.inrialpes.fr/ > > -19th ESUG International Smalltalk Conference > 22-26 August 2011, Edinburgh, UK > http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2011 > > -19Ã¨mes JournÃ©es Francophones sur les SystÃ¨mes Multi-Agents (JFSMAâ11) > http://www.univ-valenciennes.fr/congres/jfsma2011/ > 17-19 Octobre 2011, Valenciennes, France > > > > > >

March 13, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] About Pharo sprint

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Mar 13, 2011, at 10:52 AM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > On 13 March 2011 09:41, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>> It is easy to tell, when it happens.. >>> >>> because my inbox is flooded with tons of messages :) >>> >>> And that's great :) >> >> Yes it was cool to see you and henrik pair programming. >> and people were really committed. > > Hehe.. yes. We left lab at 10. :) and all the cookies were in my office :) > >> Ocean people were really into let us make progress. >> Glamour debugger, yeah I want a model too. >> >> Stef >> >>> >>> -- >>> Best regards, >>> Igor Stasenko AKA sig. >>> >> >> >> > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. >

March 13, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Last pending things for Pharo 1.2

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Mar 12, 2011, at 8:19 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > So....here is the list of things I guess are pending: > > 1) "Release" all configurations included in Pharo (this is, ConfigurationOfPharo and all it dependencies). I mean, we should NOT use or depend on #development versions. mariano can you have a look at 1) > 2) Update the one click image to use latest cog images and "pharo prepared vms". There are some issues regarding this... > 3) Write down all the things/summary done in Pharo 1.2 > 5) Update SystemVersion current -->> Pharo1.2rc2 of 27 January 2011 update 12340 > 6) Condense sources? condense changes? #cleanUpForRelease > > Cheers > > Mariano

March 13, 2011

[Pharo-project] Status bar

by Hilaire Fernandes

Hello, Do we have nay thing close as a status bar in Polymorph? A widget you plug in the bottom of a window and where you print textual information. Hilaire -- Education 0.2 -- http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire

March 13, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] About Pharo sprint

by Igor Stasenko

On 13 March 2011 09:41, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> It is easy to tell, when it happens.. >> >> because my inbox is flooded with tons of messages :) >> >> And that's great :) > > Yes it was cool to see you and henrik pair programming. > and people were really committed. Hehe.. yes. We left lab at 10. :) > Â Â Â Â Ocean people were really into let us make progress. > Â Â Â Â Glamour debugger, yeah I want a model too. > > Stef > >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Igor Stasenko AKA sig. >> > > > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

March 13, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Update process broken by 13084

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

can you tell me the symptoms? Which package/class got corrupted? Stef On Mar 13, 2011, at 12:29 AM, Henrik Sperre Johansen wrote: > See title. > Probably caused by saving from multiple open copies of the same image so > the .changes file source was exported from was corrupted :) > > Cheers, > Henry >

March 13, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Update process broken by 13084

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

But we do not publish the changes anymore. So you think that the packages got corrupted? Stef On Mar 13, 2011, at 12:29 AM, Henrik Sperre Johansen wrote: > See title. > Probably caused by saving from multiple open copies of the same image so > the .changes file source was exported from was corrupted :) > > Cheers, > Henry >

March 13, 2011