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Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN 1.2] prebuilt core 1.2 final

by Noury Bouraqadi

Saturday, 1.2 worked with a Cog-Stack VM. Noury On 14 mars 2011, at 15:17, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On Mar 14, 2011, at 3:08 PM, laurent laffont wrote: > >> >> On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> Please check... >> >> >> https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/28340/PharoCore-1.2.zip >> >> >> What is the official VM for Pharo 1.2 ? Running all tests with Cog (OSX) => crash. >> > > Not cog yet... all the time the integration server did *not* run cog, so I would not push > it in the last second. Just one tiny step at a time... 1.3 then we should start to > use Cog (for integration, too)... first we need to finish the hudson build of Cog, though. > > > Marcus > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de > INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. > Noury Bouraqadi http://car.mines-douai.fr/noury -- -6th National Conference on âControl Architecture of Robotsâ 24-25 may 2011, Grenoble area, France http://car2011.inrialpes.fr/ -19th ESUG International Smalltalk Conference 22-26 August 2011, Edinburgh, UK http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2011 -19Ã¨mes JournÃ©es Francophones sur les SystÃ¨mes Multi-Agents (JFSMAâ11) http://www.univ-valenciennes.fr/congres/jfsma2011/ 17-19 Octobre 2011, Valenciennes, France

March 14, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Jtalk, a Smalltalk for web developers

by Nicolas Petton

Le lundi 14 mars 2011 Ã 21:53 +0100, StÃ©phane Ducasse a Ã©crit : > Thanks nicolas > I want to have a look at your code :). Sure, you can browse the code from the class browser (available in the web page) or directly the st source in the chunk format here: https://github.com/NicolasPetton/jtalk/tree/master/st Cheers, Nicolas > > Stef > > On Mar 14, 2011, at 7:36 PM, Nicolas Petton wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I would like to share a project I'm working on on my spare time: Jtalk > > Smalltalk. > > > > http://nicolaspetton.github.com/jtalk > > https://github.com/NicolasPetton/jtalk > > > > Jtalk is an implementation of the Smalltalk language that compiles into > > JavaScript. > > > > Some features: > > - it is written in itself (including the parser/compiler) > > - it is self-contained > > - it compiles into efficient JS code > > - it uses the Squeak chunk format > > - Pharo is considered as the reference implementation > > > > I think Jtalk can be compared to CoffeeScript[1], Objective-J[2] or > > Clamato[3], from which it reuses some ideas and code. > > > > Jtalk includes an IDE with a class browser, transcript and workspace, an > > HTML canvas similar to Seaside and a jQuery binding. > > > > It is still a young piece of code, and some important features are still > > missing/incomplete. > > > > Cheers, > > Nicolas Petton > > > > [1] http://jashkenas.github.com/coffee-script/ > > [2] http://cappuccino.org/ > > [3] http://clamato.net > > > > > >

March 14, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Jtalk, a Smalltalk for web developers

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Thanks nicolas I want to have a look at your code :). Stef On Mar 14, 2011, at 7:36 PM, Nicolas Petton wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to share a project I'm working on on my spare time: Jtalk > Smalltalk. > > http://nicolaspetton.github.com/jtalk > https://github.com/NicolasPetton/jtalk > > Jtalk is an implementation of the Smalltalk language that compiles into > JavaScript. > > Some features: > - it is written in itself (including the parser/compiler) > - it is self-contained > - it compiles into efficient JS code > - it uses the Squeak chunk format > - Pharo is considered as the reference implementation > > I think Jtalk can be compared to CoffeeScript[1], Objective-J[2] or > Clamato[3], from which it reuses some ideas and code. > > Jtalk includes an IDE with a class browser, transcript and workspace, an > HTML canvas similar to Seaside and a jQuery binding. > > It is still a young piece of code, and some important features are still > missing/incomplete. > > Cheers, > Nicolas Petton > > [1] http://jashkenas.github.com/coffee-script/ > [2] http://cappuccino.org/ > [3] http://clamato.net > >

March 14, 2011

[Pharo-project] [ANN] Sandcastles themes for Pharo 1.2

by Patrick Barroca

Hi all, I'm pleased to announce here our UIThemes for Pharo 1.2 "Sandcastle Beach" adopts sand shades and "Sandcastle Pharoway" showcases our favorite lighthouse in blue shades. Give them a try, repository is http://www.squeaksource.com/SandcastlesThemes . Once the package is loaded, themes can be chosen in System/Settings menu and Appearance>Morphic section. Regards, -- Claire & Patrick Barroca

March 14, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] PBenchmark as a general framework for benchmarking in Smalltalk (commit access)

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Henrik Sperre Johansen < henrik.s.johansen(a)veloxit.no> wrote: > On 14.03.2011 10:19, Stefan Marr wrote: > >> Hi Toon: >> >> On 14 Mar 2011, at 09:52, Toon Verwaest wrote: >> >>> Since the general idea is to write benchmarks like unit tests, how about >>>> 'SMark'/'SBench' instead of 'SUnit'? >>>> >>> And he immediately calls it after himself! S<tefan>mar<r>k ;) >>> >> Rather farfetched no? :-P >> >> The SMark was inspired by names like 3DMark, FutureMark, CoreMark, >> SYSmark, WebMark, MobileMark. >> > I was actually about to suggest we call it SMarrk earlier today, but that > would probably be too obvious :D > > Anyways, in regards to using PharoBenchmarks/PBenchmark/etc, +100 to > Stefan's reply. > It is important to keep the framework in a separate repository. (whose name > does not imply it is specific to any dialect) > Mariano: Don't mix/confuse the framework with the uses of it. > > Thanks Henry, that was exactly what I musunderstood :) > Cheers, > Henry > > >

March 14, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Jtalk, a Smalltalk for web developers

by Mariano Martinez Peck

2011/3/14 Janko MivÅ¡ek <janko.mivsek(a)eranova.si> > Hi all, > > To add with Aida/Web plans how we will use Jtalk: I namely see very nice > oportunity to cross the border from server to the client (web browser) > with Smalltalk! That is, we can build web apps in pure Smalltalk and run > them on the client, unchanged. Even more, we can partition the app and > decide where to run, part on server, part on client, whole on server, > whole on client... And this can be done at runtime! > > So, Nicolas work actually opens a whole new horizon for Smalltalk on the > web development front. That's why Jtalk will already be part of next > version of Aida, for experimentation purposes for start. > > Sounds a lot to GWT but for Smalltalk :) Cool! > So, thanks a lot, Nico! > > Best regards > Janko > > > On 14. 03. 2011 19:36, Nicolas Petton wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I would like to share a project I'm working on on my spare time: Jtalk > > Smalltalk. > > > > http://nicolaspetton.github.com/jtalk > > https://github.com/NicolasPetton/jtalk > > > > Jtalk is an implementation of the Smalltalk language that compiles into > > JavaScript. > > > > Some features: > > - it is written in itself (including the parser/compiler) > > - it is self-contained > > - it compiles into efficient JS code > > - it uses the Squeak chunk format > > - Pharo is considered as the reference implementation > > > > I think Jtalk can be compared to CoffeeScript[1], Objective-J[2] or > > Clamato[3], from which it reuses some ideas and code. > > > > Jtalk includes an IDE with a class browser, transcript and workspace, an > > HTML canvas similar to Seaside and a jQuery binding. > > > > It is still a young piece of code, and some important features are still > > missing/incomplete. > > > > Cheers, > > Nicolas Petton > > > > [1] http://jashkenas.github.com/coffee-script/ > > [2] http://cappuccino.org/ > > [3] http://clamato.net > > > > > > > > -- > Janko MivÅ¡ek > Svetovalec za informatiko > Eranova d.o.o. > Ljubljana, Slovenija > www.eranova.si > tel: 01 514 22 55 > faks: 01 514 22 56 > gsm: 031 674 565 > >

March 14, 2011

[Pharo-project] Question about the design of the setting browser

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi alain I was reading the settingbrowser code and I have a question: why the settingbrowser inherits from MorphTreeModel. Why it does not inherits from Object or Model and has different widgets that may or not inherits from MorphTreeModel. To me it fits better the composition. Stef

March 14, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] PBenchmark as a general framework for benchmarking in Smalltalk (commit access)

by Alexandre Bergel

>> The class contains many methods having a name that begins with 'metric'. Some students worked on a kind of Hudson that exploit these information. You can have a look at it: >> http://kimen.dcc.uchile.cl:8008/VerMon01/faces/project_details.xhtml?id=1 > Ok, that is about code metrics. Slightly different from the performance aspect I am interest in, but the solution seems to follow a similar principle. It evaluates the execution time of any piece of code. It simply uses [ ... ] timeToRun. No big deal. But this is enough in many cases. > Ehm, do you suggest to have a common meta-framework for SUnit, you metric analysis/reporting, and benchmarking? Not sure whether thats worth the effort. No. I said that we should get inspired from the SUnit framework to develop a benchmark framework. This is what Lukas, Jorge, Oscar and I agree upon. I can send you things to read if you wish. > For now I will concentrate on getting a decent job done to have common benchmarking framework. Where it goes from there, we shall see. Yes! Alexandre > > > -- > Stefan Marr > Software Languages Lab > Vrije Universiteit Brussel > Pleinlaan 2 / B-1050 Brussels / Belgium > http://soft.vub.ac.be/~smarr > Phone: +32 2 629 2974 > Fax: +32 2 629 3525 > > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

March 14, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Jtalk, a Smalltalk for web developers

by Janko MivÅ¡ek

Hi all, To add with Aida/Web plans how we will use Jtalk: I namely see very nice oportunity to cross the border from server to the client (web browser) with Smalltalk! That is, we can build web apps in pure Smalltalk and run them on the client, unchanged. Even more, we can partition the app and decide where to run, part on server, part on client, whole on server, whole on client... And this can be done at runtime! So, Nicolas work actually opens a whole new horizon for Smalltalk on the web development front. That's why Jtalk will already be part of next version of Aida, for experimentation purposes for start. So, thanks a lot, Nico! Best regards Janko On 14. 03. 2011 19:36, Nicolas Petton wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to share a project I'm working on on my spare time: Jtalk > Smalltalk. > > http://nicolaspetton.github.com/jtalk > https://github.com/NicolasPetton/jtalk > > Jtalk is an implementation of the Smalltalk language that compiles into > JavaScript. > > Some features: > - it is written in itself (including the parser/compiler) > - it is self-contained > - it compiles into efficient JS code > - it uses the Squeak chunk format > - Pharo is considered as the reference implementation > > I think Jtalk can be compared to CoffeeScript[1], Objective-J[2] or > Clamato[3], from which it reuses some ideas and code. > > Jtalk includes an IDE with a class browser, transcript and workspace, an > HTML canvas similar to Seaside and a jQuery binding. > > It is still a young piece of code, and some important features are still > missing/incomplete. > > Cheers, > Nicolas Petton > > [1] http://jashkenas.github.com/coffee-script/ > [2] http://cappuccino.org/ > [3] http://clamato.net > > > -- Janko MivÅ¡ek Svetovalec za informatiko Eranova d.o.o. Ljubljana, Slovenija www.eranova.si tel: 01 514 22 55 faks: 01 514 22 56 gsm: 031 674 565

March 14, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] PBenchmark as a general framework for benchmarking in Smalltalk (commit access)

by Stefan Marr

Hi Alexandre: On 14 Mar 2011, at 20:31, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > The class contains many methods having a name that begins with 'metric'. Some students worked on a kind of Hudson that exploit these information. You can have a look at it: > http://kimen.dcc.uchile.cl:8008/VerMon01/faces/project_details.xhtml?id=1 Ok, that is about code metrics. Slightly different from the performance aspect I am interest in, but the solution seems to follow a similar principle. > It would be cool to have a standard for this. As we have for SUnit. I think that what I did goes in the right direction, but the code is not as clean as it should. It would be cool to have a report generation, which could be .pdf, sending emails, ... Ehm, do you suggest to have a common meta-framework for SUnit, you metric analysis/reporting, and benchmarking? Not sure whether thats worth the effort. For now I will concentrate on getting a decent job done to have common benchmarking framework. Where it goes from there, we shall see. Best regards Stefan -- Stefan Marr Software Languages Lab Vrije Universiteit Brussel Pleinlaan 2 / B-1050 Brussels / Belgium http://soft.vub.ac.be/~smarr Phone: +32 2 629 2974 Fax: +32 2 629 3525

March 14, 2011