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[Pharo-project] Refactoring Browser Enhancements

by Benjamin

Hi lukas with Stef we refactored the Browser environment: - now it can be parametrized by a system dictionary - we also move selectionIn* to the AST-Core so that Environment can be loaded independently. Could you integrate the packages in rb? There are AST-Core Refactoring-Critics Refactoring-Environment Refactoring-Test-Envrionment In DirtyExperiments on SqueakSource Ben PS: All the test are green ;)

March 18, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] GSOC 2010 results

by Marcus Denker

On Mar 18, 2011, at 5:18 PM, Miguel CobÃ¡ wrote: > I think the "No" answer is more like "there are no current plans, > because nobody has pushed it" than "the namespaces implementation is > banned from Pharo" Or: Namespaces can be done so easily wrong so that oe needs to think very carefully and there are no braincycles left just now. At least, that's my view... and I think that the project indeed is very important, as it shows one solution that we can learn from... and then we can realize something for Pharo after we are sure we learned enough. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

March 18, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] GSOC 2010 results

by Miguel CobÃ¡

I think the "No" answer is more like "there are no current plans, because nobody has pushed it" than "the namespaces implementation is banned from Pharo" Cheers El vie, 18-03-2011 a las 12:14 -0300, Esteban Lorenzano escribiÃ³: > > El 18/03/2011, a las 4:13a.m., StÃ©phane Ducasse escribiÃ³: > > > > > On Mar 18, 2011, at 12:04 AM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > > > > > > > > 1. Is the Namespace code conceptually the one we want to > > > have for Pharo and if so are there any plans to > > > integrate it (Pharo 1.3/1.4./... ?) > > > > No > > > > > why? > > Cheers, > Esteban -- Miguel CobÃ¡ http://twitter.com/MiguelCobaMtz http://miguel.leugim.com.mx

March 18, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN 1.2] prebuilt core 1.2 final

by Miguel CobÃ¡

+1 El vie, 18-03-2011 a las 08:24 +0100, Marcus Denker escribiÃ³: > On Mar 18, 2011, at 8:16 AM, Lukas Renggli wrote: > > >> I would not unload packaged. > >> > >> Everything not tested is broken, and so if you do things like that I am > >> sure you will have problems. > >> > >> And nobody ever unloaded anything from Core. > > > > You must be joking right? In the mission you say "stable and small > > core", but the numbers say something entirely different: PharoCore 1.0 > > is 11 MB, PharoCore 1.1 is 14 MB, PharoCore 1.2 is 16 MB. I mentioned > > it before in this list, but I already had to unload stuff in PharoCore > > 1.1. Honestly, I don't really see the point of a PharoCore image if it > > contains more and more not unloadable non-core code. > > > Size of the image comes in part from ever growing MC history. The only > other big thing should be the Minimal Morphic code, which is in there > temporarily. > > Else: People are welcome to help. > > We do what we do and then we do a release even if it is imperfect. > Perfection is death, and delaying the release forever "because we could do better" > will not mean that we do better, just that we don't release ever. > > Pharo 1.2 is *not* a goal in itself. It is just a snapshot on the way to a goal. Therefore > it's just a mess that is tested for some month so it does not have any obvious bugs. > Nothing else. > > Marcus > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de > INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. > > -- Miguel CobÃ¡ http://twitter.com/MiguelCobaMtz http://miguel.leugim.com.mx

March 18, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] GSOC 2010 results

by Esteban Lorenzano

El 18/03/2011, a las 4:13a.m., StÃ©phane Ducasse escribiÃ³: > > On Mar 18, 2011, at 12:04 AM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > >> >> 1. Is the Namespace code conceptually the one we want to >> have for Pharo and if so are there any plans to >> integrate it (Pharo 1.3/1.4./... ?) > > No why? Cheers, Esteban

March 18, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [SqueakDBX] Problems

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Facundo Vozzi <facundov79(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Beniot, > I'm using SquekDBX on Squeak 4.2 and it works fin but I don't know what > DBXTalk is about. > > Please please, forget for the mement about DBXTalk. As you may have read, ESUG is sponsoring once again SqueakDBX, but we renamed it to DBXTalk. But this is still private, broken, and we are developing there. YOU must stay using SqueakDBX repository, with the Metacello configurations in MetacelloRepostirory...like if nohing had happened ;) Once DBXTalk is ready, we will let you know. Thanks Mariano > Do you need the installation steps for SqueakDBX? > > See you, > FV > > On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Benoit St-Jean <bstjean(a)yahoo.com>wrote: > >> I've downloaded the Squeak 4.2 All-in-One file for windows, installed >> Squeak, downloaded the necessary DLLs for OpenDBX for Windows and loaded the >> Metacello necessary stuff without problem. >> >> Now, I've been struggling to install DBXTalk and SqueakDBX. Has anyone >> tried installing those from a ***fresh-clean*** Squeak 4.2 image ? Besides >> the 2 underscore settings you have to change to be able to get passed the >> first 2 errors, there always seems to be something missing. Now, I'm stuck >> with the SmartSyntaxInterpreterPlugin class missing. >> >> Can anyone try loading DBXTalk and describe the process, step-by-step. Am >> I missing something obvious? >> >> tia >> >> ----------------- >> Benoit St-Jean >> Yahoo! Messenger: bstjean >> A standpoint is an intellectual horizon of radius zero. >> (Albert Einstein) >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SqueakDBX mailing list >> SqueakDBX(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakdbx >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > SqueakDBX mailing list > SqueakDBX(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakdbx > >

March 18, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3828 in pharo: SimpleMorphic overrides system method

by pharo＠googlecode.com

Updates: Status: FixProposed Comment #1 on issue 3828 by marcus.d...(a)gmail.com: SimpleMorphic overrides system method http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3828 (No comment was entered for this change.)

March 18, 2011

[Pharo-project] Issue 3828 in pharo: SimpleMorphic overrides system method

by pharo＠googlecode.com

Status: Accepted Owner: marcus.d...(a)gmail.com Labels: Milestone-1.2 Milestone-1.3 New issue 3828 by marcus.d...(a)gmail.com: SimpleMorphic overrides system method http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3828 .. leading to problem when unloading. Fix attached. Attachments: FixSimpleMorphicUnload.1.cs 910 bytes

March 18, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN 1.2] prebuilt core 1.2 final

by Marcus Denker

On Mar 18, 2011, at 11:18 AM, Lukas Renggli wrote: >> Can you tell us where? >> What method is doing a problem? > > Model>>#topView seems to be the only override of a core method. > Ok: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3828 I will add that tonight. -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

March 18, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] GSOC 2010 results

by GermÃ¡n Leiva

Hi, about namespaces, the code is available in http://www.squeaksource.com/Environments/ and you can see a video here<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4I7fSVNX2A> with a demonstration. I attached some documentation about the decisions we made in the project and other stuff. On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 4:13 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > wrote: > > On Mar 18, 2011, at 12:04 AM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > > > While reading about the last GSOC 2010 at: > > > > http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code-2010-esug/downloads/list > > > > I wonder what happened to the results. Are they just available > > to play with them in private. > > > > Or will Pharo/the overall Smalltalk community profit > > from them since they can be usefull for the next step. > > Therefore especially two questions: > > > > 1. Is the Namespace code conceptually the one we want to > > have for Pharo and if so are there any plans to > > integrate it (Pharo 1.3/1.4./... ?) > > No > Despite of this I want to resume my work on Environments (the college left me with no time available the last months). I received some feedback and I want to do a lot of refactors plus, I want to add a RPackage integration and improve the GUI. *All the feedback about the design, improvements or critics in general are welcome (and needed).* > > > 2. Is the code from Cross-Dialect Smalltalk FFI ready > > or what is the state/strategy for Alien/FFI these days. > > Yes > > > > Thx > > T. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > GMX DSL Doppel-Flat ab 19,99 Euro/mtl.! Jetzt mit > > gratis Handy-Flat! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl > > > > > Cheers -- GermÃ¡n Leiva LeivaGerman(a)gmail.com

March 18, 2011