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Re: [Esug-list] Re: Re: [ANN] Soil release v1

by Dale Henrichs

> > But ground stone is just sand. Thereâs more than just sand in soil. Soil > should have the other ingredients needed for growth. :) I was trying to make a reference to a GemStone *stone *:) Dale On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 1:27â¯PM Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > > > Am 08.05.2024 um 16:14 schrieb Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name>: > > ï»¿ > > Am 06.05.2024 um 16:47 schrieb Dirk Nel <dirkockertnel(a)gmail.com>: > > I'll definitely check it out..! and for those who are not in the know... > what inspired the name? :) > > > - I like the word > - It has only four letters which qualifies as a class prefix > - To me as a non-native speaker it means: ground layer you can build/grow > on > > - people having fun with it > > Mission accomplished > > N. > > > Norbert > > > On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 at 17:47, Tim Mackinnon <tim(a)testit.works> wrote: > >> That's really exciting news... appreciate you sharing it with the wider >> community (I know when you mentioned its existence a while back I went and >> watched the Esug recordings to get more info, and looked at some of the >> extensive test cases to get a feel on what it looked like - its neat). >> >> Having multiple options for persisting data (from simple Fuel up to Soil >> and Glorp and Gemstone) is very useful. >> >> Tim >> >> On Wed, 24 Apr 2024, at 12:52 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: >> >> ...we said at last ESUG that there will be a release soonish but as usual >> it doesn't go that fast. >> >> But now we are very happy to announce that Soil has a first public >> release v1. So what is soil? >> >> Soil is an object oriented database in pharo <http://pharo.org/>. It is >> transaction based having ACID transactions. It has binary search >> capabilities with SkipList and BTree+ indexes. It aims to be a simple yet >> powerful database making it easy to develop with, easy to debug with, easy >> to inspect, ... >> >> More details at https://github.com/ApptiveGrid/Soil >> >> This release is still considered early stage because >> >> >> - although in ApptiveGrid there are over 4000 instances of it and >> there are other users there isn't a wider range of use cases, yet. So it is >> not fully battle tested. This just as reminder when you start compaining I >> need somewhere to point my finger to and say "I told you!" ;) >> - there are few things missing that you might expect like garbage >> collection, etc. >> >> >> So but it is definetely usable and awaiting the brave ones of you to try. >> >> Hopy you enjoy it! >> >> Norbert & Marcus >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list -- esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to esug-list-leave(a)lists.esug.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list -- esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to esug-list-leave(a)lists.esug.org >> > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list -- esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to esug-list-leave(a)lists.esug.org > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list -- esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to esug-list-leave(a)lists.esug.org >

May 8, 2024

Re: [Esug-list] [ANN] Soil release v1

by Norbert Hartl

May 8, 2024

Re: [Esug-list] Re: [ANN] Soil release v1

by Yanni Chiu

But ground stone is just sand. Thereâs more than just sand in soil. Soil should have the other ingredients needed for growth. :) On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 11:41 AM Dale Henrichs < dale.henrichs(a)gemtalksystems.com> wrote: > To me as a non-native speaker it means: ground layer you can build/grow on > > > Haha, Soil can also be thought of as "ground up stone" :) > > Dale > > On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 7:13â¯AM Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > >> >> >> Am 06.05.2024 um 16:47 schrieb Dirk Nel <dirkockertnel(a)gmail.com>: >> >> I'll definitely check it out..! and for those who are not in the know... >> what inspired the name? :) >> >> >> - I like the word >> - It has only four letters which qualifies as a class prefix >> - To me as a non-native speaker it means: ground layer you can build/grow >> on >> >> Norbert >> >

May 8, 2024

Re: [Pharo-users] Re: [Esug-list] Re: [ANN] Soil release v1

by Sabine M

I am always thinking of this movie when hearing âSoilâ. Googling for it now, I see that it has another spelling. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soylent_Green Gesendet von Outlook fÃ¼r iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> ________________________________ Von: Cody Sevier <sevierit(a)gmail.com> Gesendet: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 5:43:24 PM An: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> Cc: Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name>; Dirk Nel <dirkockertnel(a)gmail.com>; Pharo Dev <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org>; Tetaz, Jean-Pierre via Esug-list <esug-list(a)lists.esug.org> Betreff: [Pharo-users] Re: [Esug-list] Re: [ANN] Soil release v1 Or soiling yourself, aka incontinence... Isn't English illogical fun! Cody On Wed, May 8, 2024, 10:41â¯AM Dale Henrichs <dale.henrichs(a)gemtalksystems.com<mailto:dale.henrichs@gemtalksystems.com>> wrote: To me as a non-native speaker it means: ground layer you can build/grow on Haha, Soil can also be thought of as "ground up stone" :) Dale On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 7:13â¯AM Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name<mailto:norbert@hartl.name>> wrote: Am 06.05.2024 um 16:47 schrieb Dirk Nel <dirkockertnel(a)gmail.com<mailto:dirkockertnel@gmail.com>>: I'll definitely check it out..! and for those who are not in the know... what inspired the name? :) - I like the word - It has only four letters which qualifies as a class prefix - To me as a non-native speaker it means: ground layer you can build/grow on Norbert On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 at 17:47, Tim Mackinnon <tim(a)testit.works> wrote: That's really exciting news... appreciate you sharing it with the wider community (I know when you mentioned its existence a while back I went and watched the Esug recordings to get more info, and looked at some of the extensive test cases to get a feel on what it looked like - its neat). Having multiple options for persisting data (from simple Fuel up to Soil and Glorp and Gemstone) is very useful. Tim On Wed, 24 Apr 2024, at 12:52 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: ...we said at last ESUG that there will be a release soonish but as usual it doesn't go that fast. But now we are very happy to announce that Soil has a first public release v1. So what is soil? Soil is an object oriented database in pharo<http://pharo.org/>. It is transaction based having ACID transactions. It has binary search capabilities with SkipList and BTree+ indexes. It aims to be a simple yet powerful database making it easy to develop with, easy to debug with, easy to inspect, ... More details at https://github.com/ApptiveGrid/Soil This release is still considered early stage because * although in ApptiveGrid there are over 4000 instances of it and there are other users there isn't a wider range of use cases, yet. So it is not fully battle tested. This just as reminder when you start compaining I need somewhere to point my finger to and say "I told you!" ;) * there are few things missing that you might expect like garbage collection, etc. So but it is definetely usable and awaiting the brave ones of you to try. Hopy you enjoy it! Norbert & Marcus _______________________________________________ Esug-list mailing list -- esug-list(a)lists.esug.org<mailto:esug-list@lists.esug.org> To unsubscribe send an email to esug-list-leave(a)lists.esug.org<mailto:esug-list-leave@lists.esug.org> _______________________________________________ Esug-list mailing list -- esug-list(a)lists.esug.org<mailto:esug-list@lists.esug.org> To unsubscribe send an email to esug-list-leave(a)lists.esug.org<mailto:esug-list-leave@lists.esug.org> _______________________________________________ Esug-list mailing list -- esug-list(a)lists.esug.org<mailto:esug-list@lists.esug.org> To unsubscribe send an email to esug-list-leave(a)lists.esug.org<mailto:esug-list-leave@lists.esug.org>

May 8, 2024

Re: [Esug-list] Re: [ANN] Soil release v1

by Dale Henrichs

> > To me as a non-native speaker it means: ground layer you can build/grow on Haha, Soil can also be thought of as "ground up stone" :) Dale On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 7:13â¯AM Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > > > Am 06.05.2024 um 16:47 schrieb Dirk Nel <dirkockertnel(a)gmail.com>: > > I'll definitely check it out..! and for those who are not in the know... > what inspired the name? :) > > > - I like the word > - It has only four letters which qualifies as a class prefix > - To me as a non-native speaker it means: ground layer you can build/grow > on > > Norbert > > > On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 at 17:47, Tim Mackinnon <tim(a)testit.works> wrote: > >> That's really exciting news... appreciate you sharing it with the wider >> community (I know when you mentioned its existence a while back I went and >> watched the Esug recordings to get more info, and looked at some of the >> extensive test cases to get a feel on what it looked like - its neat). >> >> Having multiple options for persisting data (from simple Fuel up to Soil >> and Glorp and Gemstone) is very useful. >> >> Tim >> >> On Wed, 24 Apr 2024, at 12:52 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: >> >> ...we said at last ESUG that there will be a release soonish but as usual >> it doesn't go that fast. >> >> But now we are very happy to announce that Soil has a first public >> release v1. So what is soil? >> >> Soil is an object oriented database in pharo <http://pharo.org/>. It is >> transaction based having ACID transactions. It has binary search >> capabilities with SkipList and BTree+ indexes. It aims to be a simple yet >> powerful database making it easy to develop with, easy to debug with, easy >> to inspect, ... >> >> More details at https://github.com/ApptiveGrid/Soil >> >> This release is still considered early stage because >> >> >> - although in ApptiveGrid there are over 4000 instances of it and >> there are other users there isn't a wider range of use cases, yet. So it is >> not fully battle tested. This just as reminder when you start compaining I >> need somewhere to point my finger to and say "I told you!" ;) >> - there are few things missing that you might expect like garbage >> collection, etc. >> >> >> So but it is definetely usable and awaiting the brave ones of you to try. >> >> Hopy you enjoy it! >> >> Norbert & Marcus >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list -- esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to esug-list-leave(a)lists.esug.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list -- esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to esug-list-leave(a)lists.esug.org >> > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list -- esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to esug-list-leave(a)lists.esug.org >

May 8, 2024

Re: [Esug-list] [ANN] Soil release v1

by Norbert Hartl

> Am 06.05.2024 um 16:47 schrieb Dirk Nel <dirkockertnel(a)gmail.com>: > > I'll definitely check it out..! and for those who are not in the know... what inspired the name? :) - I like the word - It has only four letters which qualifies as a class prefix - To me as a non-native speaker it means: ground layer you can build/grow on Norbert > > On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 at 17:47, Tim Mackinnon <tim(a)testit.works> wrote: >> That's really exciting news... appreciate you sharing it with the wider community (I know when you mentioned its existence a while back I went and watched the Esug recordings to get more info, and looked at some of the extensive test cases to get a feel on what it looked like - its neat). >> >> Having multiple options for persisting data (from simple Fuel up to Soil and Glorp and Gemstone) is very useful. >> >> Tim >> >> On Wed, 24 Apr 2024, at 12:52 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: >>> ...we said at last ESUG that there will be a release soonish but as usual it doesn't go that fast. >>> >>> But now we are very happy to announce that Soil has a first public release v1. So what is soil? >>> >>> Soil is an object oriented database in pharo <http://pharo.org/>. It is transaction based having ACID transactions. It has binary search capabilities with SkipList and BTree+ indexes. It aims to be a simple yet powerful database making it easy to develop with, easy to debug with, easy to inspect, ... >>> >>> More details at https://github.com/ApptiveGrid/Soil >>> >>> This release is still considered early stage because >>> >>> although in ApptiveGrid there are over 4000 instances of it and there are other users there isn't a wider range of use cases, yet. So it is not fully battle tested. This just as reminder when you start compaining I need somewhere to point my finger to and say "I told you!" ;) >>> there are few things missing that you might expect like garbage collection, etc. >>> >>> So but it is definetely usable and awaiting the brave ones of you to try. >>> >>> Hopy you enjoy it! >>> >>> Norbert & Marcus >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Esug-list mailing list -- esug-list(a)lists.esug.org <mailto:esug-list@lists.esug.org> >>> To unsubscribe send an email to esug-list-leave(a)lists.esug.org <mailto:esug-list-leave@lists.esug.org> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list -- esug-list(a)lists.esug.org <mailto:esug-list@lists.esug.org> >> To unsubscribe send an email to esug-list-leave(a)lists.esug.org <mailto:esug-list-leave@lists.esug.org>

May 8, 2024

Some issues in starting Pharo12 - Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo 12 Release !

by Davide Varvello

Hi Guys, I'm trying to play with Pharo12 so I downloaded it via the Zeroconf script (it seems to me more approachable than the Pharo Launcher).The script (curl -L https://get.pharo.org | bash) got everything for my machine (apple silicon).Â Now, if I run pharo via command line everything is working, but if I double click on Pharo.app and select the image file Pharo.image nothing happens. Can you check that behavior, please? TIADavide --------- On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 12:20:41 PM GMT+2, Esteban Lorenzano via Pharo-users <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> wrote: Dear Pharo users and dynamic language lovers: We have released Pharo version 12! What is Pharo?

May 8, 2024

"Atlas is a Spec application" â New blog post on all: objects all: theTime

by Koen De Hondt

Dear Pharo users and developers, I added the next blog post <https://all-objects-all-the-time.st/#/blog/posts/8> to the series on Atlas, a new browser for Pharo. It describes the relationship between Atlas and Spec, the UI framework of Pharo. The blog post introduces the basic building blocks of the Atlas UI. It also explains the struggle with some aspects of Spec and the Morphic backend. Happy reading! Ciao, Koen

May 5, 2024

This week (18/2024) on the Pharo Issue Tracker

by Marcus Denker

With Pharo12 being released, we started to merge more changes in Pharo13. # Pharo12 - Pharo12: ProcessorScheduler>>#activeProcess added no instrumentation pragma #16557 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/16557 - Add Toplo world menu entry (part 2) #16478 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/16478 # Graphics - Change default value for setting #autoSetCanvasScaleFactor to true #16529 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/16529 - missing stroke paint method #16531 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/16531 - Change #shrinkTo: on FreeTypeCache to selectively remove entries rather than all of them #16419 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/16419 # Bugs - ExteranlAddress>>fromString: converts string to UTF-8 first #16560 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/16560 - ProcessorScheduler>>#activeProcess added no instrumentation pragma #16551 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/16551 # Refactoring Engine - Refactoring of the RefactoryChange manager #16526 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/16526 - Composite extract method refactoring #16525 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/16525 # Speed - Announcer: Return early if there isn't any subscriber #16336 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/16336 # Cleanup / Misc - New pass at removing SystemAnnouncer references #16518 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/16518 - update with latest changes from Pharo12 #16523 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/16523 - remove interactionState: #16559 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/16559 - the tests use #category: from the package Deprecated12 #743 https://github.com/pharo-spec/NewTools/pull/743 # Tests - add tests for testDoWhileFalse: and testDoWhileTrue: #16532 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/16532 - 5 test for rules #16524 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/16524

May 3, 2024