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[Pharo 9.0] Build #337: emitStore-do-not-use-Object-new

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There is a new Pharo build available! The status of the build #337 was: FAILURE. The Pull Request #6477 was integrated: "emitStore-do-not-use-Object-new" Pull request url: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/6477 Issue Url: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/issues/emitStore Build Url: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-ci-jenkins2/job/Test%20pending%20pull%20request%2…

June 5, 2020

Re: [Pharo-dev] PROPOSAL: UN-St (United Nations of Smalltalk)

by Sean DeNigris

Thank you for your feedback on all three MLs. Here are three important clarifications: 1. My idea is actually very small and humble. Maybe âDialect Ambassadorsâ would better capture the intent. Although my title was grandiose, I meant it in the âJ.C.R. Licklider Intergalactic Networkâ sense because people tend to deliver the minimum ha ha. My actual proposal/idea is not to "reinvent XYZ", or "merge Squeak, Pharo, and Cuis into one layered system" - although Iâd be overjoyed if any of that happened :) My proposal is simply to have a group of 1+ representatives from each community who believe in the importance of sticking together enough to remain calm and objective to resolve misunderstandings before they explode. Of course, there may be unintended positive consequences, like âhey, did you see the improvements we made to ABC? You may want to steal that!â 2. âWe tried that when we XYZ and ABC ruined it by ____â. Yes, Iâve been a despondent bystander during many of these. Thatâs exactly what Iâm trying to repair! Maybe the next one will succeed if we have some facilitators who are objective and impartial who can go to ABC and say, âso-and-so is worried you might be thinking about doing _____. What about XYZ isnât working for you?â Etc, Etc. Who knows, maybe we could even get one of these stalled initiatives back on trackâ¦ 3. "Why not include dialect ABC, and XYZ, too?â Thereâs really no reason to exclude anyone. The reason I specifically included Squeak, Pharo, and Cuis is that, as more immediate family members, we seem to experience more "sibling rivalryâ. I just happened to personally know of a need in these cases (especially the first two). In fact, after some of the responses, I realized that I probably should have included Gemstone, which is clearly an important part of our shared ecosystem; again, I only left them out because Iâm not aware of any problems there! Since there is interested, and not to distract too much from the Dev MLs, maybe we could just pick a place for interested parties to âmeetâ. Iâm familiar with Discord (which Pharo uses), which is free but not threaded (and so can get confusing for long-running topics). Any other suggestions? - Sean

June 5, 2020

Re: [Pharo-dev] question about Zinc ZnUrl or ZnResourceMetaUtils

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

https://github.com/svenvc/zinc/commit/7a42881f14144e0d9dcc2b3aa98a075f189ea… > On 4 Jun 2020, at 23:06, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > > Theoretically, the order is not important (should not matter), but for practical purposes (like being able to parse a URL and print it to the same representation) it would be a good idea. > > I'll see if I can add it. > >> On 28 May 2020, at 11:24, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> >> Hi sven >> >> Are the dictionaries for the query part conserving the order? >> Because this would be really nice. >> >> S. >> -------------------------------------------- >> StÃ©phane Ducasse >> http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org >> 03 59 35 87 52 >> Assistant: Aurore Dalle >> FAX 03 59 57 78 50 >> TEL 03 59 35 86 16 >> S. Ducasse - Inria >> 40, avenue Halley, >> Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, BÃ¢t.A, Park Plaza >> Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 >> France >> >

June 5, 2020

[Pharo 9.0] Build #336: Fix https://github.com/pharo-vcs/iceberg/issues/1331

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There is a new Pharo build available! The status of the build #336 was: FAILURE. The Pull Request #6455 was integrated: "Fix https://github.com/pharo-vcs/iceberg/issues/1331" Pull request url: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/6455 Issue Url: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/issues/fix/iceberg/1331 Build Url: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-ci-jenkins2/job/Test%20pending%20pull%20request%2…

June 5, 2020

[Pharo 9.0] Build #335: Fixing broken dependency test

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There is a new Pharo build available! The status of the build #335 was: FAILURE. The Pull Request #6490 was integrated: "Fixing broken dependency test" Pull request url: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/6490 Issue Url: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/issues/fixing Build Url: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-ci-jenkins2/job/Test%20pending%20pull%20request%2…

June 5, 2020

R: PROPOSAL: UN-St (United Nations of Smalltalk)

by Lorenzo

Excellent idea! Lorenzo -----Messaggio originale----- Da: Pharo-dev [mailto:pharo-dev-bounces@lists.pharo.org] Per conto di Sean DeNigris Inviato: giovedÃ¬ 4 giugno 2020 18:16 A: cuis-dev(a)cuis-smalltalk.org; pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org; squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org Oggetto: [Pharo-dev] PROPOSAL: UN-St (United Nations of Smalltalk) I believe that the Squeak/Pharo/Cuis communit(ies) share one very special thing, which most of the world has completely missed, and which the world sorely needs if the true power of computing to unleash and evolve the human mind is ever to be realized: a love and appreciation for personal technological augmentation/amplification available to all as represented by the Dynabook and/or its prototype software (Smalltalk as a concept, not any version/implementation e.g. Smalltalk-80). Like a few survivors after the sinking of Atlantis, we can pick up the remnants of this dream and resume marching toward the objective (or at least keep its memory alive until an auspicious time when it can be realized)â¦ or, like most groups of human beings throughout history who start with a common aim, we can bicker among ourselves about e.g. historical discrepancies, personal slights, and conflicting subgoals, and allow those squabbles to distract us and derail our primary mission. This would be disappointing but not surprising: it is how every war is started. I have contributed, hacked, conferenced, and visited with many members of our wider community for over a decade now and, maybe because I had the âluxuryâ of finding Smalltalk after some of the political lines had been well-drawn, I can clearly see that we are fundamentally united. I cringe every time I see cynical, caustic exchanges - both for my participating colleagues who are obviously in pain - probably exacerbated by their passion for our shared endevour - and for the counterproductive effect the antagonism is sure to have on our common goal. Virtually every exchange is between two people who I personally know to be good and competent. Here is my proposal: Letâs form an informal committee - a United Nations of Smalltalk if you will - including at least one member of each community, who will collaborate on cooperation between the dialects and mediate any friction before it boils over. Iâd be happy to participate, I guess as a representative of the Pharo community. Although I have no official role in the Pharo leadership, I have much of my professional life invested there. I often wish I had the time to keep all my projects compatible with Squeak, but I usually feel like Iâm barely keeping up as it is! I hope Iâm not alone in these feelings and look forward to the response of our community (most emphatically singular). This message is being cross-posted to Pharo-Dev, Squeak-Dev, and Cuis MLs (I think Iâm still a member of all three - fingers crossedâ¦) - Sean (DeNigris) -- Questa e-mail Ã¨ stata controllata per individuare virus con Avast antivirus. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

June 5, 2020

[Pharo 9.0] Build #334: 6415-RBMethodNode-should-have-allComments #6415

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There is a new Pharo build available! The status of the build #334 was: SUCCESS. The Pull Request #6484 was integrated: "6415-RBMethodNode-should-have-allComments #6415" Pull request url: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/6484 Issue Url: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/issues/6415 Build Url: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-ci-jenkins2/job/Test%20pending%20pull%20request%2…

June 5, 2020

[Pharo 9.0] Build #333: simplify-firstPrecodeComment

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There is a new Pharo build available! The status of the build #333 was: FAILURE. The Pull Request #6483 was integrated: "simplify-firstPrecodeComment" Pull request url: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/6483 Issue Url: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/issues/simplify Build Url: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-ci-jenkins2/job/Test%20pending%20pull%20request%2…

June 5, 2020

Re: [Pharo-dev] question about Zinc ZnUrl or ZnResourceMetaUtils

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

Theoretically, the order is not important (should not matter), but for practical purposes (like being able to parse a URL and print it to the same representation) it would be a good idea. I'll see if I can add it. > On 28 May 2020, at 11:24, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > Hi sven > > Are the dictionaries for the query part conserving the order? > Because this would be really nice. > > S. > -------------------------------------------- > StÃ©phane Ducasse > http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org > 03 59 35 87 52 > Assistant: Aurore Dalle > FAX 03 59 57 78 50 > TEL 03 59 35 86 16 > S. Ducasse - Inria > 40, avenue Halley, > Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, BÃ¢t.A, Park Plaza > Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 > France >

June 4, 2020

Re: [Pharo-dev] [squeak-dev] PROPOSAL: UN-St (United Nations of Smalltalk)

by Eliot Miranda

On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 9:17 AM Sean DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: > I believe that the Squeak/Pharo/Cuis communit(ies) share one very special > thing, which most of the world has completely missed, and which the world > sorely needs if the true power of computing to unleash and evolve the human > mind is ever to be realized: a love and appreciation for personal > technological augmentation/amplification available to all as represented by > the Dynabook and/or its prototype software (Smalltalk as a concept, not any > version/implementation e.g. Smalltalk-80). > > Like a few survivors after the sinking of Atlantis, we can pick up the > remnants of this dream and resume marching toward the objective (or at > least keep its memory alive until an auspicious time when it can be > realized)â¦ or, like most groups of human beings throughout history who > start with a common aim, we can bicker among ourselves about e.g. > historical discrepancies, personal slights, and conflicting subgoals, and > allow those squabbles to distract us and derail our primary mission. This > would be disappointing but not surprising: it is how every war is started. > > I have contributed, hacked, conferenced, and visited with many members of > our wider community for over a decade now and, maybe because I had the > âluxuryâ of finding Smalltalk after some of the political lines had been > well-drawn, I can clearly see that we are fundamentally united. I cringe > every time I see cynical, caustic exchanges - both for my participating > colleagues who are obviously in pain - probably exacerbated by their > passion for our shared endevour - and for the counterproductive effect the > antagonism is sure to have on our common goal. Virtually every exchange is > between two people who I personally know to be good and competent. > > Here is my proposal: Letâs form an informal committee - a United Nations > of Smalltalk if you will - including at least one member of each community, > who will collaborate on cooperation between the dialects and mediate any > friction before it boils over. > > Iâd be happy to participate, I guess as a representative of the Pharo > community. Although I have no official role in the Pharo leadership, I have > much of my professional life invested there. I often wish I had the time to > keep all my projects compatible with Squeak, but I usually feel like Iâm > barely keeping up as it is! > > I hope Iâm not alone in these feelings and look forward to the response of > our community (most emphatically singular). This message is being > cross-posted to Pharo-Dev, Squeak-Dev, and Cuis MLs (I think Iâm still a > member of all three - fingers crossedâ¦) > As Esteban Maringolo implied, we tried that with Open Smalltalk. The attempt was rejected by Pharo, who forked their repository and refused to contribute back. > - Sean (DeNigris) > _,,,^..^,,,_ best, Eliot

June 4, 2020