February 2019 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

[Pharo 8.0] Build #100: 2688-Remove-GLMExamplesBrowser-and-GLMExamples

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There is a new Pharo build available! The status of the build #100 was: SUCCESS. The Pull Request #2702 was integrated: "2688-Remove-GLMExamplesBrowser-and-GLMExamples" Pull request url: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/2702 Issue Url: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/2688 Build Url: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-ci-jenkins2/job/Test%20pending%20pull%20request%2…

Feb. 22, 2019

Re: [Pharo-dev] Proposal to remove [Stream|Collection]>>#write:

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

<intellectual response> Many system classes contain lots of methods that are confusing, duplicates of similar functionality, bogus, old, unused, untested and undocumented . This makes the system more complex, especially for newcomers, but also for everyone else trying to make changes. This is often technical debt, cleanup that has been postponed. It is important that knowledgeable developers try to clean up by simplifying things. If not, the situation will never improve. Of course we have to be careful, in this particular case I was. We have done many hundreds of these removals in the past years, with very little problems. We have also done way more dangerous things, like change signatures and semantics of existing methods. In my opinion we can safely go ahead and remove this. A couple of others concurred. If someone wants to go through the trouble to do this with deprecation and a rewrite rule, fine. <emotional response> Sure, the responses "Trying to be *somewhat* compatible and verifying (even quickly) that it's not breaking a gazillion things is the very least someone can do... Backward compatibility is NOT a sin! ;):" and "Check the selectors used in the latest packages on squeaksource, ss3, smalltalkhub and decide." are pure technical, intellectual arguments and not passive-aggressive criticism. Right. > On 22 Feb 2019, at 19:54, Benoit St-Jean via Pharo-dev <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org> wrote: > > > From: Benoit St-Jean <bstjean(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] Proposal to remove [Stream|Collection]>>#write: > Date: 22 February 2019 at 19:54:55 GMT+1 > To: Pharo Development List <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org> > > > Trying to be *somewhat* compatible and verifying (even quickly) that it's not breaking a gazillion things is the very least someone can do... Backward compatibility is NOT a sin! ;) > > On 2019-02-22 13:45, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >> >>> On 22 Feb 2019, at 19:39, Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl> wrote: >>> >>> Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: >>> . >>>> So I propose to remove [Stream|Collection]>>#write: >>>> >>>> What say thou ? >>> Check the selectors used in the latest packages on squeaksource, ss3, >>> smalltalkhub and decide. >>> >>> Stephan >> You forgot GitHub and all private company repositories in the world. >> >> > -- > ----------------- > BenoÃ®t St-Jean > Yahoo! Messenger: bstjean > Twitter: @BenLeChialeux > Pinterest: benoitstjean > Instagram: Chef_Benito > IRC: lamneth > Blogue: endormitoire.wordpress.com > "A standpoint is an intellectual horizon of radius zero". (A. Einstein) > > > >

Feb. 22, 2019

Re: [Pharo-dev] Proposal to remove [Stream|Collection]>>#write:

by Benoit St-Jean

Trying to be *somewhat* compatible and verifying (even quickly) that it's not breaking a gazillion things is the very least someone can do...Â Backward compatibility is NOT a sin! ;) On 2019-02-22 13:45, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > >> On 22 Feb 2019, at 19:39, Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl> wrote: >> >> Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: >> . >>> So I propose to remove [Stream|Collection]>>#write: >>> >>> What say thou ? >> Check the selectors used in the latest packages on squeaksource, ss3, >> smalltalkhub and decide. >> >> Stephan > You forgot GitHub and all private company repositories in the world. > > -- ----------------- BenoÃ®t St-Jean Yahoo! Messenger: bstjean Twitter: @BenLeChialeux Pinterest: benoitstjean Instagram: Chef_Benito IRC: lamneth Blogue: endormitoire.wordpress.com "A standpoint is an intellectual horizon of radius zero". (A. Einstein)

Feb. 22, 2019

Re: [Pharo-dev] Proposal to remove [Stream|Collection]>>#write:

by Norbert Hartl

> Am 22.02.2019 um 19:45 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu>: > > > >> On 22 Feb 2019, at 19:39, Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl> wrote: >> >> Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: >> . >>> >>> So I propose to remove [Stream|Collection]>>#write: >>> >>> What say thou ? >> >> Check the selectors used in the latest packages on squeaksource, ss3, >> smalltalkhub and decide. >> >> Stephan > > You forgot GitHub and all private company repositories in the world. > hehe, indeed. Norbert

Feb. 22, 2019

Re: [Pharo-dev] Proposal to remove [Stream|Collection]>>#write:

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

> On 22 Feb 2019, at 19:39, Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl> wrote: > > Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > . >> >> So I propose to remove [Stream|Collection]>>#write: >> >> What say thou ? > > Check the selectors used in the latest packages on squeaksource, ss3, > smalltalkhub and decide. > > Stephan You forgot GitHub and all private company repositories in the world.

Feb. 22, 2019

Re: [Pharo-dev] Proposal to remove [Stream|Collection]>>#write:

by Stephan Eggermont

Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: . > > So I propose to remove [Stream|Collection]>>#write: > > What say thou ? Check the selectors used in the latest packages on squeaksource, ss3, smalltalkhub and decide. Stephan

Feb. 22, 2019

[Pharo 8.0] Build #99: 2645-Duplication-wrappingPolicyLabel-and-lineNumbersDisplayLabel-is-defined-4-times

by ci-pharo-ci-jenkins2＠inria.fr

There is a new Pharo build available! The status of the build #99 was: FAILURE. The Pull Request #2662 was integrated: "2645-Duplication-wrappingPolicyLabel-and-lineNumbersDisplayLabel-is-defined-4-times" Pull request url: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/2662 Issue Url: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/2645 Build Url: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-ci-jenkins2/job/Test%20pending%20pull%20request%2…

Feb. 22, 2019

[Pharo 8.0] Build #98: 2680-Cleanup-and-streamline-semantics-of-WriteStream-and-putOn-

by ci-pharo-ci-jenkins2＠inria.fr

There is a new Pharo build available! The status of the build #98 was: FAILURE. The Pull Request #2698 was integrated: "2680-Cleanup-and-streamline-semantics-of-WriteStream-and-putOn-" Pull request url: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/2698 Issue Url: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/2680 Build Url: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-ci-jenkins2/job/Test%20pending%20pull%20request%2…

Feb. 22, 2019

Re: [Pharo-dev] Proposal to remove [Stream|Collection]>>#write:

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/issues/2701 > On 22 Feb 2019, at 15:57, Alistair Grant <akgrant0710(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 at 15:50, Esteban Maringolo <emaringolo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> El vie., 22 feb. 2019 a las 11:43, ducasse >> (<stepharo(a)netcourrier.com>) escribiÃ³: >>> + 1 >>> :) >> >>> But Iâm an easy person when it is about cleaning. >> >> +1. That makes us two. > > +1 > > Cheers, > Alistair >

Feb. 22, 2019

[Pharo 8.0] Build #97: 2677-Add-a-setting-to-disable-the-world-menu

by ci-pharo-ci-jenkins2＠inria.fr

There is a new Pharo build available! The status of the build #97 was: SUCCESS. The Pull Request #2678 was integrated: "2677-Add-a-setting-to-disable-the-world-menu" Pull request url: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/2678 Issue Url: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/2677 Build Url: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-ci-jenkins2/job/Test%20pending%20pull%20request%2…

Feb. 22, 2019