November 2018 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

[Pharo 7.0-dev] Build #1366: 22621-FileReferencemoveTo-doesnt-work-with-directories

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There is a new Pharo build available! The status of the build #1366 was: SUCCESS. The Pull Request #1949 was integrated: "22621-FileReferencemoveTo-doesnt-work-with-directories" Pull request url: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/1949 Issue Url: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/22621 Build Url: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-ci-jenkins2/job/Test%20pending%20pull%20request%2…

Nov. 6, 2018

Re: [Pharo-dev] Looking for a good shortcut for "contextual spotter"

by Peter Uhnak

On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 1:11 PM Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 6 Nov 2018, at 12:58, Esteban Maringolo <emaringolo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > If Shift+Enter opens Spotter, why not use Cmd+Shift+Enter for the > contextual one? > > > Because it does not works (already tried) :) > iirc the problem is that the old-style shortcut definition corrupts the shortcut... which reminds me that I should get back to fixing this https://github.com/pharo-ide/Commander/pull/39

Nov. 6, 2018

Re: [Pharo-dev] Zinc Websockets

by Esteban Maringolo

To use Zinc WS you might need to port Zinc first, which would be great BTW. But if I recall correctly VW already has WebSockets and HTTP 2.0 support in their SiouX HTTP framework. Regards, Esteban A. Maringolo El lun., 5 nov. 2018 a las 22:07, Shaping (<shaping(a)uurda.org>) escribiÃ³: > Hi all. > > What is the easiest way to port Zinc Websockets to VW? Has this been done? > > > Shaping > > >

Nov. 6, 2018

Re: [Pharo-dev] Looking for a good shortcut for "contextual spotter"

by phil＠highoctane.be

IntelliJ search everywhere is shift shift. Kind of neat as well. Phil On Tue, Nov 6, 2018, 13:34 Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com wrote: > Not really sure if this is a good idea, but why not share... > > How about Shift-Enter-Enter. Kind of like a double click. > Because "local" is kind of like going deeper, kind of like entering a > house and then entering a room, kind of like entering twice. > > Yeah, I know.... a lot of "kind of like"s > cheers -ben > > On Tue, 6 Nov 2018 at 20:11, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> >> >> On 6 Nov 2018, at 12:58, Esteban Maringolo <emaringolo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> If Shift+Enter opens Spotter, why not use Cmd+Shift+Enter for the >> contextual one? >> >> >> Because it does not works (already tried) :) >> >> Esteban >> >> >> So the canonical shortcut is Shift+Enter and there is a modifier to open >> it contextualized, could be Cmd/Ctrl or Meta/Win. >> >> Regards, >> >> Esteban A. Maringolo >> >> >> El mar., 6 nov. 2018 a las 7:56, Esteban Lorenzano (<estebanlm(a)gmail.com>) >> escribiÃ³: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> Most of you donât know it, but Calypso incorporates an option to show a >>> âcontextual spotterâ which will list all available commands in the context >>> you selected. >>> This is meant to help on discoverability and reachability of commands >>> available. >>> >>> This is *in addition to shortcuts* not a replace of them (but lets be >>> honest, we have far more commands than those that are possible to handle >>> with a simple shortcut). >>> >>> Anyway, originally I mapped this command to meta+/, which fitted well >>> with my keyboard and language, but seems is not the case for many others >>> (and this is not working at all on windows). >>> >>> So. Iâm looking for options :) >>> >>> So far I have this two ideas: >>> >>> 1- alt+enter >>> 2- meta+h >>> >>> First one looks nice, but Iâm not sure it will work on all >>> platforms/combinations. What do you think? >>> >>> Esteban >>> >>> Ps: I will also add an icon somewhere to expose the contextual spotter. >>> >>> >>> >>

Nov. 6, 2018

[Pharo 7.0-dev] Build #1365: 22635-Welcome-help-should-show-build-hash-

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There is a new Pharo build available! The status of the build #1365 was: SUCCESS. The Pull Request #1955 was integrated: "22635-Welcome-help-should-show-build-hash-" Pull request url: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/1955 Issue Url: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/22635 Build Url: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-ci-jenkins2/job/Test%20pending%20pull%20request%2…

Nov. 6, 2018

Re: [Pharo-dev] Looking for a good shortcut for "contextual spotter"

by Ben Coman

Not really sure if this is a good idea, but why not share... How about Shift-Enter-Enter. Kind of like a double click. Because "local" is kind of like going deeper, kind of like entering a house and then entering a room, kind of like entering twice. Yeah, I know.... a lot of "kind of like"s cheers -ben On Tue, 6 Nov 2018 at 20:11, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 6 Nov 2018, at 12:58, Esteban Maringolo <emaringolo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > If Shift+Enter opens Spotter, why not use Cmd+Shift+Enter for the > contextual one? > > > Because it does not works (already tried) :) > > Esteban > > > So the canonical shortcut is Shift+Enter and there is a modifier to open > it contextualized, could be Cmd/Ctrl or Meta/Win. > > Regards, > > Esteban A. Maringolo > > > El mar., 6 nov. 2018 a las 7:56, Esteban Lorenzano (<estebanlm(a)gmail.com>) > escribiÃ³: > >> Hello, >> >> Most of you donât know it, but Calypso incorporates an option to show a >> âcontextual spotterâ which will list all available commands in the context >> you selected. >> This is meant to help on discoverability and reachability of commands >> available. >> >> This is *in addition to shortcuts* not a replace of them (but lets be >> honest, we have far more commands than those that are possible to handle >> with a simple shortcut). >> >> Anyway, originally I mapped this command to meta+/, which fitted well >> with my keyboard and language, but seems is not the case for many others >> (and this is not working at all on windows). >> >> So. Iâm looking for options :) >> >> So far I have this two ideas: >> >> 1- alt+enter >> 2- meta+h >> >> First one looks nice, but Iâm not sure it will work on all >> platforms/combinations. What do you think? >> >> Esteban >> >> Ps: I will also add an icon somewhere to expose the contextual spotter. >> >> >> >

Nov. 6, 2018

Re: [Pharo-dev] Looking for a good shortcut for "contextual spotter"

by Esteban Lorenzano

> On 6 Nov 2018, at 12:58, Esteban Maringolo <emaringolo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > If Shift+Enter opens Spotter, why not use Cmd+Shift+Enter for the contextual one? Because it does not works (already tried) :) Esteban > > So the canonical shortcut is Shift+Enter and there is a modifier to open it contextualized, could be Cmd/Ctrl or Meta/Win. > > Regards, > > Esteban A. Maringolo > > > El mar., 6 nov. 2018 a las 7:56, Esteban Lorenzano (<estebanlm(a)gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>>) escribiÃ³: > Hello, > > Most of you donât know it, but Calypso incorporates an option to show a âcontextual spotterâ which will list all available commands in the context you selected. > This is meant to help on discoverability and reachability of commands available. > > This is *in addition to shortcuts* not a replace of them (but lets be honest, we have far more commands than those that are possible to handle with a simple shortcut). > > Anyway, originally I mapped this command to meta+/, which fitted well with my keyboard and language, but seems is not the case for many others (and this is not working at all on windows). > > So. Iâm looking for options :) > > So far I have this two ideas: > > 1- alt+enter > 2- meta+h > > First one looks nice, but Iâm not sure it will work on all platforms/combinations. What do you think? > > Esteban > > Ps: I will also add an icon somewhere to expose the contextual spotter. > >

Nov. 6, 2018

Re: [Pharo-dev] Looking for a good shortcut for "contextual spotter"

by Esteban Maringolo

If Shift+Enter opens Spotter, why not use Cmd+Shift+Enter for the contextual one? So the canonical shortcut is Shift+Enter and there is a modifier to open it contextualized, could be Cmd/Ctrl or Meta/Win. Regards, Esteban A. Maringolo El mar., 6 nov. 2018 a las 7:56, Esteban Lorenzano (<estebanlm(a)gmail.com>) escribiÃ³: > Hello, > > Most of you donât know it, but Calypso incorporates an option to show a > âcontextual spotterâ which will list all available commands in the context > you selected. > This is meant to help on discoverability and reachability of commands > available. > > This is *in addition to shortcuts* not a replace of them (but lets be > honest, we have far more commands than those that are possible to handle > with a simple shortcut). > > Anyway, originally I mapped this command to meta+/, which fitted well with > my keyboard and language, but seems is not the case for many others (and > this is not working at all on windows). > > So. Iâm looking for options :) > > So far I have this two ideas: > > 1- alt+enter > 2- meta+h > > First one looks nice, but Iâm not sure it will work on all > platforms/combinations. What do you think? > > Esteban > > Ps: I will also add an icon somewhere to expose the contextual spotter. > > >

Nov. 6, 2018

Re: [Pharo-dev] Looking for a good shortcut for "contextual spotter"

by Esteban Lorenzano

> On 6 Nov 2018, at 12:02, Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Q: does "contextual spotter" inherit all the features from the global one? no > > If yes, why not overriding shift+enter? > - if you're on a global scope, you open a global spotter > - if you're on a local scope, you open a local spotter (that also does global spotter things) It does not applies. Contextual explorer shows available commands. - Merge them wit the âglobal spotterâ would be too much information hence confusing and complicated to find. - hiding the global spotter when contextual is show would have negative impact since users still want to use spotter. > > Also, it will be more easy to discover => just a single shortcut, and people will start using it directly, maybe even without knowing it Yes, discovery advantages are true. Yet, difficulties to organise that information stays. (But we can see how it looks) Esteban > > On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 11:56 AM Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>> wrote: > Hello, > > Most of you donât know it, but Calypso incorporates an option to show a âcontextual spotterâ which will list all available commands in the context you selected. > This is meant to help on discoverability and reachability of commands available. > > This is *in addition to shortcuts* not a replace of them (but lets be honest, we have far more commands than those that are possible to handle with a simple shortcut). > > Anyway, originally I mapped this command to meta+/, which fitted well with my keyboard and language, but seems is not the case for many others (and this is not working at all on windows). > > So. Iâm looking for options :) > > So far I have this two ideas: > > 1- alt+enter > 2- meta+h > > First one looks nice, but Iâm not sure it will work on all platforms/combinations. What do you think? > > Esteban > > Ps: I will also add an icon somewhere to expose the contextual spotter. > > > > > -- > > Guille Polito > Research Engineer > > Centre de Recherche en Informatique, Signal et Automatique de Lille > CRIStAL - UMR 9189 > French National Center for Scientific Research - http://www.cnrs.fr <http://www.cnrs.fr/> > > Web: http://guillep.github.io <http://guillep.github.io/> > Phone: +33 06 52 70 66 13

Nov. 6, 2018

Re: [Pharo-dev] Looking for a good shortcut for "contextual spotter"

by phil＠highoctane.be

Alt enter hass my vote provided it works on Windows as well. Phil On Tue, Nov 6, 2018, 11:56 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com wrote: > Hello, > > Most of you donât know it, but Calypso incorporates an option to show a > âcontextual spotterâ which will list all available commands in the context > you selected. > This is meant to help on discoverability and reachability of commands > available. > > This is *in addition to shortcuts* not a replace of them (but lets be > honest, we have far more commands than those that are possible to handle > with a simple shortcut). > > Anyway, originally I mapped this command to meta+/, which fitted well with > my keyboard and language, but seems is not the case for many others (and > this is not working at all on windows). > > So. Iâm looking for options :) > > So far I have this two ideas: > > 1- alt+enter > 2- meta+h > > First one looks nice, but Iâm not sure it will work on all > platforms/combinations. What do you think? > > Esteban > > Ps: I will also add an icon somewhere to expose the contextual spotter. > > >

Nov. 6, 2018