October 2018 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

:: Separator in class names

by Torsten Bergmann

Again several years passed by and we still have no solution for Namespaces. At least I would like to have support for a separator. Details are in this thread from 2016 (!): http://forum.world.st/Separator-in-class-names-td4926162.html I still ask if this is something we can get on board for P7 or P8? Thx T.

Oct. 4, 2018

Re: [Pharo-dev] Slowness when loading code in Pharo 7?

by tinchodias＠gmail.com

On Wed, 2018-10-03 at 20:08 +0200, Peter Uhnak wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 7:31 PM Juraj Kubelka via Pharo-dev <pharo-dev > @lists.pharo.org> wrote: > > Hi! > > > > I did the same measurement for Pharo 6.1. To summarize it I have > > those results:Â > > > > By executing:Â > > > > -=-=-=- > > EpMonitor current disable. > > [ Metacello new > > Â baseline: 'GToolkit'; > > Â repository: 'github://feenkcom/gtoolkit/src'; > > Â load. > > ] timeToRun > > -=-=-=- > > > > Pharo 6.1 64bit macOS: 6 minutes > > Pharo 7.0 64bit macOS:Â 8 minutes > > > > WithÂ EpMonitor current enabled it is:Â > > > > Pharo 6.1 64bit macOS: 7 minutes > > Pharo 7.0 64bit macOS: 15 minutes > > > > So nice... I was just trying to install GToolkit in P6.1 on Windows > (but with updated Iceberg)... it took over 1.5 hours (SmaCC was > probably 30 minutes by itself), and then the image crashed... really > looking forward to pre-made images :) > > Peter I ran the attached script on my debian 64 bits (disk: slow HDD w/ext4, cpu: i5 ram: 12gb). Here, the slowdown from 61 to 70 is not as evident as in your cases.Â It's only me? It can help if others can run the script and report your results in other computers and OSs. Two output examples: --- pharo 61 * disabled: 0:00:07:30.783 * enabled: 0:00:08:27.931 pharo 70 * disabled: 0:00:08:24.403 * enabled: 0:00:09:12.858 --- pharo 61 * disabled: 0:00:08:16.036 * enabled: 0:00:09:21.368 pharo 70 * disabled: 0:00:08:06.57 * enabled: 0:00:10:05.194 --- pharo 61 * disabled: 0:00:07:39.538 * enabled: 0:00:08:33.778 pharo 70 * disabled: 0:00:07:23.528 * enabled: 0:00:09:11.453 --- Note: the script removes pharo-local/ before loading the code to download again everything (and I don't have configured a central repo in personal settings or something like that). It should be more fair to compare to have locallyÂ cached as much as possible. I tried once and it was reducing a couple of minutes, but the conclusion was the same. Additionally: In both 61 and 70, I browsed the resulting ombu file (>110 mb), it was not thaat bad... ~5 seconds when I clicked on the file, and then almost no delay on scroll and when clicking on a particular change. But: The problem was when I clicked on a filter and it started to parse each change... I waited like 10 minutes and then closed it. No visual feedback, and looks too inefficient. MartÃn

Oct. 4, 2018

Re: [Pharo-dev] Slowness when loading code in Pharo 7?

by Peter Uhnak

On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 7:31 PM Juraj Kubelka via Pharo-dev < pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org> wrote: > Hi! > > I did the same measurement for Pharo 6.1. To summarize it I have those > results: > > By executing: > > -=-=-=- > EpMonitor current disable. > [ Metacello new > baseline: 'GToolkit'; > repository: 'github://feenkcom/gtoolkit/src'; > load. > ] timeToRun > -=-=-=- > > Pharo 6.1 64bit macOS: 6 minutes > Pharo 7.0 64bit macOS: 8 minutes > > With EpMonitor current enabled it is: > > Pharo 6.1 64bit macOS: 7 minutes > Pharo 7.0 64bit macOS: 15 minutes > So nice... I was just trying to install GToolkit in P6.1 on Windows (but with updated Iceberg)... it took over 1.5 hours (SmaCC was probably 30 minutes by itself), and then the image crashed... really looking forward to pre-made images :) Peter

Oct. 3, 2018

Re: [Pharo-dev] Slowness when loading code in Pharo 7?

by tinchodias＠gmail.com

On Tue, 2018-10-02 at 23:31 -0300, Juraj Kubelka via Pharo-dev wrote: > I can profile it to see if there is something wrong, or it's just that a lot of source code from GT and dependencies is written to disk and then the only thing can do is disable change recording (and maybe then re-enabling it after load). (but I have linux)

Oct. 3, 2018

Re: [Pharo-dev] Slowness when loading code in Pharo 7?

by Juraj Kubelka

Hi! I did the same measurement for Pharo 6.1. To summarize it I have those results: By executing: -=-=-=- EpMonitor current disable. [ Metacello new baseline: 'GToolkit'; repository: 'github://feenkcom/gtoolkit/src'; load. ] timeToRun -=-=-=- Pharo 6.1 64bit macOS: 6 minutes Pharo 7.0 64bit macOS: 8 minutes With EpMonitor current enabled it is: Pharo 6.1 64bit macOS: 7 minutes Pharo 7.0 64bit macOS: 15 minutes Cheers, Juraj > On Oct 2, 2018, at 23:31, Juraj Kubelka via Pharo-dev <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org> wrote: > > > From: Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka(a)icloud.com> > Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] Slowness when loading code in Pharo 7? > Date: October 2, 2018 at 23:31:59 GMT-3 > To: Pharo Development List <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org> > > > Hi Martin, > > By disabling EpMonitor, the slowdown disappears. > > EpMonitor current disable. > [ Metacello new > baseline: 'GToolkit'; > repository: 'github://feenkcom/gtoolkit/src'; > load. > ] timeToRun "0:00:08:03.504â > > > Cheers, > Juraj > >> On Oct 2, 2018, at 18:14, Martin Dias <tinchodias(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Andrei. You can evaluate "EpMonitor current disable" before loading >> to compare times. >> El mar., 2 de oct. de 2018 a la(s) 11:18, Andrei Chis >> (chisvasileandrei(a)gmail.com) escribiÃ³: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Are there any know slowdowns when loading code in Pharo 7? Usually on my machine (Mac - HighSierra) loading GToolkit in a Pharo 6.1 images takes around 9 minutes. In the latest Pharo 7 it takes 20 minutes. On two other newer laptops running Mac results are similar (15 minutes on Pharo 7 64it, and 7 minutes on Pharo 6.1 64bit). >>> >>> We have the impression that most of the times, the regression happens because of reading sources file. And the sources files are read because of checking Epicea method changes. We have not done a deep research on it, just whenever we do CMD+. it stops in that stage. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Andrei >> > > > >

Oct. 3, 2018

Re: [Pharo-dev] Loading GitHub/Tonel/BaselineOf code in Pharo 6.0

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

> On 3 Oct 2018, at 15:04, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >> On 3 Oct 2018, at 14:26, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: >> >> Metacello new >> repository: 'github://svenvc/ztimestamp'; >> baseline: 'ZTimestamp'; >> load. > > This part is bad. > You need: > > Metacello new > repository: 'github://svenvc/ztimestamp/repository'; > baseline: 'ZTimestamp'; > load. > > (You miss to point to the repository). Ah, I did not see that, I understand, now it works: Fetched -> BaselineOfZTimestamp-tonel.1 --- github://svenvc/ztimestamp:master/repository --- github://svenvc/ztimestamp:master/repository Loaded -> BaselineOfZTimestamp-tonel.1 --- github://svenvc/ztimestamp:master/repository --- github://svenvc/ztimestamp:master/repository Loading baseline of BaselineOfZTimestamp... Fetched -> ZTimestamp-tonel.1 --- github://svenvc/ztimestamp:master/repository --- github://svenvc/ztimestamp:master/repository Loaded -> ZTimestamp-tonel.1 --- github://svenvc/ztimestamp:master/repository --- cache ...finished baseline > And btw, there is an error here: > > https://github.com/svenvc/ztimestamp/blob/master/repository/.properties > > (File is malformed. It will not affect the loading, but you may want to fix it). OK, fixed it, thanks for your help. > Esteban >

Oct. 3, 2018

Re: [Pharo-dev] Loading GitHub/Tonel/BaselineOf code in Pharo 6.0

by Esteban Lorenzano

> On 3 Oct 2018, at 14:26, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > > Metacello new > repository: 'github://svenvc/ztimestamp <github://svenvc/ztimestamp>'; > baseline: 'ZTimestamp'; > load. This part is bad. You need: Metacello new repository: 'github://svenvc/ztimestamp/repository'; baseline: 'ZTimestamp'; load. (You miss to point to the repository). And btw, there is an error here: https://github.com/svenvc/ztimestamp/blob/master/repository/.properties <https://github.com/svenvc/ztimestamp/blob/master/repository/.properties> (File is malformed. It will not affect the loading, but you may want to fix it). Esteban

Oct. 3, 2018

[Pharo 7.0-dev] Build #1294: 22515 Package ManifestGraphicsDisplayObjects and related classes in Graphics-Display Objects

by ci-pharo-ci-jenkins2＠inria.fr

There is a new Pharo build available! The status of the build #1294 was: FAILURE. The Pull Request #1855 was integrated: "22515 Package ManifestGraphicsDisplayObjects and related classes in Graphics-Display Objects" Pull request url: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/1855 Issue Url: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/22515 Build Url: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-ci-jenkins2/job/Test%20pending%20pull%20request%2…

Oct. 3, 2018

Re: [Pharo-dev] Loading GitHub/Tonel/BaselineOf code in Pharo 6.0

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

Well, I tried but no luck: Metacello new baseline: 'Metacello'; repository: 'github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository'; onConflict: [ :ex | ex useIncoming ]; load. Metacello new repository: 'github://pharo-vcs/tonel'; baseline: 'Tonel'; load. Metacello new repository: 'github://svenvc/ztimestamp'; baseline: 'ZTimestamp'; load. Fetched -> BaselineOfMetacello-EstebanLorenzano.104 --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository [382ac2b:pharo-6.1_dev] --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository Loaded -> BaselineOfMetacello-EstebanLorenzano.104 --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository [382ac2b:pharo-6.1_dev] --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository Loading baseline of BaselineOfMetacello... Fetched -> Metacello-Base-EstebanLorenzano.125 --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository [382ac2b:pharo-6.1_dev] --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository Fetched -> Metacello-Core-EstebanLorenzano.840 --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository [382ac2b:pharo-6.1_dev] --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository Fetched -> Metacello-MC-EstebanLorenzano.737 --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository [382ac2b:pharo-6.1_dev] --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository Fetched -> Metacello-PharoCommonPlatform-EstebanLorenzano.22 --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository [382ac2b:pharo-6.1_dev] --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository Fetched -> Metacello-ToolBox-EstebanLorenzano.150 --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository [382ac2b:pharo-6.1_dev] --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository Fetched -> Metacello-Cypress-CyrilFerlicot.8 --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository [382ac2b:pharo-6.1_dev] --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository Fetched -> Metacello-Platform.pharo60-EstebanLorenzano.1508155584 --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository [382ac2b:pharo-6.1_dev] --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository Fetched -> Metacello-FileTree-EstebanLorenzano.39 --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository [382ac2b:pharo-6.1_dev] --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository Fetched -> Metacello-GitBasedRepository-EstebanLorenzano.25 --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository [382ac2b:pharo-6.1_dev] --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository Fetched -> Metacello-Bitbucket-EstebanLorenzano.7 --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository [382ac2b:pharo-6.1_dev] --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository Fetched -> Metacello-GitHub-EstebanLorenzano.47 --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository [382ac2b:pharo-6.1_dev] --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository Fetched -> Metacello-Reference-dkh.36 --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository [382ac2b:pharo-6.1_dev] --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository Fetched -> Metacello-Tutorial-dkh.26 --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository [382ac2b:pharo-6.1_dev] --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository Fetched -> Metacello-TestsMCResources-EstebanLorenzano.35 --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository [382ac2b:pharo-6.1_dev] --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository Fetched -> Metacello-TestsCommonMC.pharo20-dkh.5 --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository [382ac2b:pharo-6.1_dev] --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository Fetched -> Metacello-TestsMCCore-EstebanLorenzano.10 --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository [382ac2b:pharo-6.1_dev] --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository Fetched -> Metacello-TestsMC-EstebanLorenzano.410 --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository [382ac2b:pharo-6.1_dev] --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository Fetched -> Metacello-TestsReference-dkh.20 --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository [382ac2b:pharo-6.1_dev] --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository Fetched -> Metacello-TestsPlatform.squeakCommon-EstebanLorenzano.23 --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository [382ac2b:pharo-6.1_dev] --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository Loaded -> Metacello-Base-EstebanLorenzano.125 --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository [382ac2b:pharo-6.1_dev] --- cache Loaded -> Metacello-Core-EstebanLorenzano.840 --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository [382ac2b:pharo-6.1_dev] --- cache Loaded -> Metacello-MC-EstebanLorenzano.737 --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository [382ac2b:pharo-6.1_dev] --- cache Loaded -> Metacello-PharoCommonPlatform-EstebanLorenzano.22 --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository [382ac2b:pharo-6.1_dev] --- cache Loaded -> Metacello-ToolBox-EstebanLorenzano.150 --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository [382ac2b:pharo-6.1_dev] --- cache Loaded -> Metacello-Cypress-CyrilFerlicot.8 --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository [382ac2b:pharo-6.1_dev] --- cache Loaded -> Metacello-Platform.pharo60-EstebanLorenzano.1508155584 --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository [382ac2b:pharo-6.1_dev] --- cache Loaded -> Metacello-FileTree-EstebanLorenzano.39 --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository [382ac2b:pharo-6.1_dev] --- cache MCGitBasedNetworkRepository>>initialize (directory is Undeclared) MCGitBasedNetworkRepository>>directory (directory is Undeclared) MCGitBasedNetworkRepository>>directory (directory is Undeclared) MCGitBasedNetworkRepository>>directory (directory is Undeclared) MCGitBasedNetworkRepository>>directory (directory is Undeclared) MCGitBasedNetworkRepository>>directory (directory is Undeclared) MCGitBasedNetworkRepository>>directory (directory is Undeclared) MCGitBasedNetworkRepository>>flushForScriptGet (directory is Undeclared) MCGitBasedNetworkRepository>>flushCache (directory is Undeclared) Loaded -> Metacello-GitBasedRepository-EstebanLorenzano.25 --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository --- cache Loaded -> Metacello-Bitbucket-EstebanLorenzano.7 --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository --- cache Loaded -> Metacello-GitHub-EstebanLorenzano.47 --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository --- cache Loaded -> Metacello-Reference-dkh.36 --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository --- cache Loaded -> Metacello-Tutorial-dkh.26 --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository --- cache Loaded -> Metacello-TestsMCResources-EstebanLorenzano.35 --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository --- cache Evaluated -> Metacello-TestsMCResources >> testResourcePostLoadDoIt Loaded -> Metacello-TestsCommonMC.pharo20-dkh.5 --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository --- cache Loaded -> Metacello-TestsMCCore-EstebanLorenzano.10 --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository --- cache Loaded -> Metacello-TestsMC-EstebanLorenzano.410 --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository --- cache Loaded -> Metacello-TestsReference-dkh.20 --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository --- cache Loaded -> Metacello-TestsPlatform.squeakCommon-EstebanLorenzano.23 --- github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository --- cache Evaluated -> baseline [BaselineOfMetacello] >> reprimeRegistryIssue197 ...finished baseline Fetched -> BaselineOfTonel-cypress.1 --- github://pharo-vcs/tonel:master --- github://pharo-vcs/tonel:master Loaded -> BaselineOfTonel-cypress.1 --- github://pharo-vcs/tonel:master --- github://pharo-vcs/tonel:master Loading baseline of BaselineOfTonel... Fetched -> MonticelloTonel-Core-cypress.1 --- github://pharo-vcs/tonel:master --- github://pharo-vcs/tonel:master Fetched -> MonticelloTonel-FileSystem-cypress.1 --- github://pharo-vcs/tonel:master --- github://pharo-vcs/tonel:master Fetched -> MonticelloTonel-Tests-cypress.1 --- github://pharo-vcs/tonel:master --- github://pharo-vcs/tonel:master Loaded -> MonticelloTonel-Core-cypress.1 --- github://pharo-vcs/tonel:master --- cache Loaded -> MonticelloTonel-FileSystem-cypress.1 --- github://pharo-vcs/tonel:master --- cache Loaded -> MonticelloTonel-Tests-cypress.1 --- github://pharo-vcs/tonel:master --- cache ...finished baseline ...RETRY->BaselineOfZTimestamp ...RETRY->BaselineOfZTimestamp ...FAILED->BaselineOfZTimestamp > On 3 Oct 2018, at 14:13, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Sven, > > You still need latest metacello. > This is the list of requirements to use metacello and tonel. > > 1. Latest metacello: > > Metacello new > baseline: 'Metacello'; > repository: 'github://metacello/metacello:pharo-6.1_dev/repository'; > onConflict: [ :ex | ex useIncoming ]; > load. > > 2. Tonel > > Metacello new > repository: 'github://pharo-vcs/tonel'; > baseline: 'Tonel'; > load. > > Both can be loaded in any order, but you need both :) > > Esteban > >> On 3 Oct 2018, at 14:02, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: >> >> So I am trying to load GitHub/Tonel/BaselineOf code in Pharo 6.0. >> >> I got a fresh 6.0 and I installed Tonel into it using >> >> Metacello new >> repository: 'github://pharo-vcs/tonel'; >> baseline: 'Tonel'; >> load. >> >> Which went OK >> >> Fetched -> BaselineOfTonel-cypress.1 --- github://pharo-vcs/tonel:master [0317649:master] --- github://pharo-vcs/tonel:master >> Loaded -> BaselineOfTonel-cypress.1 --- github://pharo-vcs/tonel:master [0317649:master] --- github://pharo-vcs/tonel:master >> Loading baseline of BaselineOfTonel... >> Fetched -> MonticelloTonel-Core-cypress.1 --- github://pharo-vcs/tonel:master [0317649:master] --- github://pharo-vcs/tonel:master >> Fetched -> MonticelloTonel-FileSystem-cypress.1 --- github://pharo-vcs/tonel:master [0317649:master] --- github://pharo-vcs/tonel:master >> Fetched -> MonticelloTonel-Tests-cypress.1 --- github://pharo-vcs/tonel:master [0317649:master] --- github://pharo-vcs/tonel:master >> Loaded -> MonticelloTonel-Core-cypress.1 --- github://pharo-vcs/tonel:master [0317649:master] --- cache >> Loaded -> MonticelloTonel-FileSystem-cypress.1 --- github://pharo-vcs/tonel:master [0317649:master] --- cache >> Loaded -> MonticelloTonel-Tests-cypress.1 --- github://pharo-vcs/tonel:master [0317649:master] --- cache >> ...finished baseline >> >> Then I try to load some code from me that has been converted to GitHub/Tonel/BaselineOf and that works fine in 6.1/7.0 and contains all meta info >> >> Metacello new >> repository: 'github://svenvc/ztimestamp'; >> baseline: 'ZTimestamp'; >> load. >> >> This fails >> >> ...RETRY->BaselineOfZTimestamp >> ...RETRY->BaselineOfZTimestamp >> ...FAILED->BaselineOfZTimestamp >> >> Could not resolve: BaselineOfZTimestamp [BaselineOfZTimestamp] in /Users/sven/Tmp/pharo6/pharo-local/package-cache github://svenvc/ztimestamp:master >> >> What am I doing wrong here ? >> >> Thx, >> >> Sven >> >> > >

Oct. 3, 2018

[Pharo 7.0-dev] Build #1293: 22163-Memory-Leak-GLMHintableActionButtonBrick

by ci-pharo-ci-jenkins2＠inria.fr

There is a new Pharo build available! The status of the build #1293 was: SUCCESS. The Pull Request #1848 was integrated: "22163-Memory-Leak-GLMHintableActionButtonBrick" Pull request url: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/1848 Issue Url: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/22163 Build Url: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-ci-jenkins2/job/Test%20pending%20pull%20request%2…

Oct. 3, 2018