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Re: [Pharo-dev] Frozen is melted (can you guys please be patient?)

by Thierry Goubier

Le 06/03/2017 Ã 20:30, Esteban Lorenzano a Ã©crit : > >> On 6 Mar 2017, at 19:43, Thierry Goubier <thierry.goubier(a)gmail.com >> <mailto:thierry.goubier@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Le 06/03/2017 Ã 18:43, Esteban Lorenzano a Ã©crit : >>> which VM are you using? >>> >>> this: >>> >>> **PrimitiveFailure** >>> findSubstring:in:startingAt:matchTable: >>> >>> indicates that you are not using a PharoVMâ¦ am I right? >> >> I'm using >> https://dl.bintray.com/estebanlm/pharo-vm/pharo-linux-x86_64threaded.d7cda1… > > old (very) They were new when you announced them. Then they started to segfault, and I must have missed the message where you announced you had a new place for them ;) > good ones are here: > > http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo-spur64/linux/ > > or here: > > https://dl.bintray.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm/ I've used the one on http://files.pharo.org [1], and it works... as soon as I removed FreeTypeFontProvider current updateFromSystem from my image building script... It seems to be timing out one way or another. Thanks! Thierry [1] http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo64-linux-latest.zip

March 6, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] Frozen is melted (can you guys please be patient?)

by Esteban Lorenzano

> On 6 Mar 2017, at 19:43, Thierry Goubier <thierry.goubier(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Le 06/03/2017 Ã 18:43, Esteban Lorenzano a Ã©crit : >> which VM are you using? >> >> this: >> >> **PrimitiveFailure** >> findSubstring:in:startingAt:matchTable: >> >> indicates that you are not using a PharoVMâ¦ am I right? > > I'm using https://dl.bintray.com/estebanlm/pharo-vm/pharo-linux-x86_64threaded.d7cda1… <https://dl.bintray.com/estebanlm/pharo-vm/pharo-linux-x86_64threaded.d7cda1…> old (very) good ones are here: http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo-spur64/linux/ <http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo-spur64/linux/> or here: https://dl.bintray.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm/ <https://dl.bintray.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm/> Esteban > > Thierry > >> Esteban >> >> >>> On 6 Mar 2017, at 17:38, Thierry Goubier <thierry.goubier(a)gmail.com >>> <mailto:thierry.goubier@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> 2017-03-06 17:20 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com >>> <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>>: >>> >>> >>>> On 6 Mar 2017, at 17:04, Thierry Goubier >>>> <thierry.goubier(a)gmail.com <mailto:thierry.goubier@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 2017-03-06 16:54 GMT+01:00 Pavel >>>> Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com >>>> <mailto:pavel.krivanek@gmail.com>>: >>>> >>>> I treid 64-bit Pharo on fresh (x)ubuntu and: >>>> - Zodiac (SSL) works >>>> - Roassal (Athens) work with a library path fix >>>> . LibGit can be loaded with some effort. >>>> >>>> >>>> You're luckier than me. >>>> >>>> Pharo 64bits segfaults on both Ubuntu 16.04 and 16.10. >>> >>> â¦ and the dumps? >>> >>> >>> Here it is. Can create it on-demand :( >>> >>> I had no success compiling 64bits vms by myself. They crash/deadlock >>> after that point, but they are not usable either. >>> >>> Thierry >>> >>> >>> >>> Esteban >>> >>>> >>>> Thierry >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> It looks very promising! Thank you! >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> -- Pavel >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 2017-03-06 7:17 GMT+01:00 Esteban >>>> Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>>: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> First, let me be clear: I *like* sublimish theme (not for >>>> my use, but I like it), and I like (a lot) the windows >>>> list on spotter, and I like in general all this new >>>> additions. >>>> >>>> And I know, most of those additions are usability >>>> enhancements so a good thing. >>>> >>>> But can you guys stop pushing new features into a (in >>>> theory) frozen version? >>>> >>>> Pharo 7 will arrive soonâ¦ *if* we can fix all things >>>> missing. If I can suggest an orientation, it would be >>>> good, for those that use linux and mac (windows is not >>>> ready), to test and help fix 64bits version. >>>> >>>> There are still plenty of bugs to fix there, like for >>>> example why Spotter does not shows search line. >>>> >>>> Last week I added support to Athens and SDL2 in 64bits >>>> but that meant: >>>> >>>> - some important changes in UFFI >>>> - discover something that seems is failing on callbacks >>>> for Cairo (no idea if it is a callbacks problem or an >>>> image problem that causes a callback problem). >>>> >>>> I would say all this and the fact we are working on >>>> 64bits in general deserves a lot of testing. >>>> >>>> I will add links in Pharo page to download 64bits (Iâm at >>>> the train now), but in the mean time you can download all >>>> from here: >>>> >>>> http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo-64.zip >>>> <http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo-64.zip> >>>> http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo64-linux-latest.zip >>>> <http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo64-linux-latest.zip> (linux) >>>> http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo64-mac-latest.zip <http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo64-mac-latest.zip> (mac) >>>> http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/sources.zip >>>> <http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/sources.zip> (in >>>> case you need them) >>>> >>>> cheers, >>>> Esteban >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> <crash.dmp> >> > >

March 6, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] Frozen is melted (can you guys please be patient?)

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

> On 6 Mar 2017, at 19:51, stepharong <stepharong(a)free.fr> wrote: > > We should make it available from the catalog :) Yes, it most certainly should be. If only we could then tell user to type Shift-Enter Sublimish Enter to install it using Spotter right from the catalog ;-) Sorry, I couldn't resist ... <ducking> > 2017-03-06 9:29 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: > >> On 6 Mar 2017, at 09:22, Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> 2017-03-06 8:20 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: >> >>> On 6 Mar 2017, at 07:57, phil(a)highoctane.be wrote: >>> >>> https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/job/Pharo-6.0-Issue-Validator-simple/7294/artifac… is not integrated for some Monkey reason anyway - still should b/c if you put sublimish, you need a decent matching Spotter. >>> >>> Also, I see https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/19796/Remove-duplicate-code-from-Sublimis… on 5/3. If this moves forward, why not the other one? >>> >>> BTW Sublimish was an extra thing. Who got that in image? >> >> I donât know. >> It shouldnât :) >> >> What we should do is to create a page for themes and links to it (and they should be in catalog) :) >> >> Well, it was me who proposed the slice and yes, I was aware of the fact that I should not do it because of code freeze (I was not aware of the two themes policy). > > it is not a policy, it is just the idea I have :) > >> >> We can remove it again, I will prepare a slice. > > problem with it is that is makes ripples. > If community want it (is nice), we can include it, but I would wait for P7, yes. > > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/19801/Remove-SublimishTheme > At least it was an advertisement for this theme that moved it forward and the integration of it helped to improve the dark theme too. And showed again how much we need the concept of palettes used strictly in the system. > > -- Pavel > > > > Esteban > >> >> -- Pavel >> >> >> >> >> >> Esteban >> >>> >>> Phil >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 7:43 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On 6 Mar 2017, at 07:17, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> First, let me be clear: I *like* sublimish theme (not for my use, but I like it), and I like (a lot) the windows list on spotter, and I like in general all this new additions. >>> >>> By the way, even if I like it, I would not have integrated SublimishTheme. For same reason I didnât integrated DarkMetalTheme: My idea is to have just two themes *in image*: one white, one dark, and allow people to install other themes from catalog. >>> >>> Why? Because each class inside image becomes our responsibility and then a maintainability issue. With themes in particular already happened that existing themes became abandonware inside the image and we needed to clean up, not without problems. >>> >>> cheers, >>> Esteban >>> >>> ps: which means also yes: that issue got integrated because I failed to control the flow of issues... >>> >>>> >>>> And I know, most of those additions are usability enhancements so a good thing. >>>> >>>> But can you guys stop pushing new features into a (in theory) frozen version? >>>> >>>> Pharo 7 will arrive soonâ¦ *if* we can fix all things missing. If I can suggest an orientation, it would be good, for those that use linux and mac (windows is not ready), to test and help fix 64bits version. >>>> >>>> There are still plenty of bugs to fix there, like for example why Spotter does not shows search line. >>>> >>>> Last week I added support to Athens and SDL2 in 64bits but that meant: >>>> >>>> - some important changes in UFFI >>>> - discover something that seems is failing on callbacks for Cairo (no idea if it is a callbacks problem or an image problem that causes a callback problem). >>>> >>>> I would say all this and the fact we are working on 64bits in general deserves a lot of testing. >>>> >>>> I will add links in Pharo page to download 64bits (Iâm at the train now), but in the mean time you can download all from here: >>>> >>>> http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo-64.zip >>>> http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo64-linux-latest.zip (linux) >>>> http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo64-mac-latest.zip (mac) >>>> http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/sources.zip (in case you need them) >>>> >>>> cheers, >>>> Esteban > > > > > > -- > Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/

March 6, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] Frozen is melted (can you guys please be patient?)

by stepharong

We should make it available from the catalog :) > > 2017-03-06 9:29 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: >> >>>>> On 6 Mar 2017, at 09:22, Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> 2017-03-06 8:20 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: >>>> >>>>>>>>> On 6 Mar 2017, at 07:57, phil(a)highoctane.be wrote: >>>>> >>>>> https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/job/Pharo-6.0-Issue-Validator-simple/7294/artifac… >>>>> is not integrated for some Monkey reason anyway - still should b/c >>>>> if you >>>>>put sublimish, you need a decent matching Spotter. >>>>> >>>>> Also, I see >>>>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/19796/Remove-duplicate-code-from-Sublimis… >>>>> on 5/3. If this moves forward, why not the other one? >>>>> >>>>> BTW Sublimish was an extra thing. Who got that in image? >>>> >>>> I donât know.It shouldnât :) >>>> >>>> What we should do is to create a page for themes and links to it (and >>>> they should be in catalog) :) >>> >>> Well, it was me who proposed the slice and yes, I was aware of the >>> fact that I should not do it because of code freeze (I was not aware >>> of the two themes policy). >> >> it is not a policy, it is just the idea I have :) >> >> >>>>>> We can remove it again, I will prepare a slice. >> >> problem with it is that is makes ripples.If community want it (is >> nice), we can include it, but I would wait for P7, yes. > > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/19801/Remove-SublimishTheme > At least it was an advertisement for this theme that moved it forward > and the integration of it helped to improve the dark theme too. And > showed again how much we need the concept of palettes >used strictly in > the system. > > -- Pavel > > >> >>>> Esteban >> >>> >>> -- Pavel >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>> Esteban >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Phil >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 7:43 AM, Esteban Lorenzano >>>>> <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 6 Mar 2017, at 07:17, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> First, let me be clear: I *like* sublimish theme (not for my use, >>>>>>> but I like it), and I like (a lot) the windows list on spotter, >>>>>>> and I like in general all >>>>>>>this new additions. >>>>>> >>>>>> By the way, even if I like it, I would not have integrated >>>>>> SublimishTheme. For same reason I didnât integrated DarkMetalTheme: >>>>>> My idea is to have just two >>>>>>themes *in image*: one white, one >>>>>> dark, and allow people to install other themes from catalog. >>>>>> Why? Because each class inside image becomes our responsibility and >>>>>> then a maintainability issue. With themes in particular already >>>>>> happened that >>>>>>existing themes became abandonware inside the >>>>>> image and we needed to clean up, not without problems. >>>>>> cheers,Esteban >>>>>> >>>>>> ps: which means also yes: that issue got integrated because I >>>>>> failed to control the flow of issues... >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And I know, most of those additions are usability enhancements so >>>>>>> a good thing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But can you guys stop pushing new features into a (in theory) >>>>>>> frozen version? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Pharo 7 will arrive soonâ¦ *if* we can fix all things missing. If I >>>>>>> can suggest an orientation, it would be good, for those that use >>>>>>> linux and mac >>>>>>>(windows is not ready), to test and help fix >>>>>>> 64bits version. >>>>>>> There are still plenty of bugs to fix there, like for example why >>>>>>> Spotter does not shows search line. >>>>>>> Last week I added support to Athens and SDL2 in 64bits but that >>>>>>> meant: >>>>>>> - some important changes in UFFI >>>>>>> - discover something that seems is failing on callbacks for Cairo >>>>>>> (no idea if it is a callbacks problem or an image problem that >>>>>>> causes a >>>>>>>callback problem). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would say all this and the fact we are working on 64bits in >>>>>>> general deserves a lot of testing. >>>>>>> I will add links in Pharo page to download 64bits (Iâm at the >>>>>>> train now), but in the mean time you can download all from here: >>>>>>> http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo-64.zip >>>>>>> http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo64-linux-latest.zip >>>>>>> (linux) >>>>>>> http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo64-mac-latest.zip (mac) >>>>>>> http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/sources.zip (in case you need >>>>>>> them) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> cheers,Esteban >> > -- Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/

March 6, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] Frozen is melted (can you guys please be patient?)

by Thierry Goubier

Le 06/03/2017 Ã 18:43, Esteban Lorenzano a Ã©crit : > which VM are you using? > > this: > > **PrimitiveFailure** > findSubstring:in:startingAt:matchTable: > > indicates that you are not using a PharoVMâ¦ am I right? I'm using https://dl.bintray.com/estebanlm/pharo-vm/pharo-linux-x86_64threaded.d7cda1… Thierry > Esteban > > >> On 6 Mar 2017, at 17:38, Thierry Goubier <thierry.goubier(a)gmail.com >> <mailto:thierry.goubier@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> >> >> 2017-03-06 17:20 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com >> <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>>: >> >> >>> On 6 Mar 2017, at 17:04, Thierry Goubier >>> <thierry.goubier(a)gmail.com <mailto:thierry.goubier@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> 2017-03-06 16:54 GMT+01:00 Pavel >>> Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com >>> <mailto:pavel.krivanek@gmail.com>>: >>> >>> I treid 64-bit Pharo on fresh (x)ubuntu and: >>> - Zodiac (SSL) works >>> - Roassal (Athens) work with a library path fix >>> . LibGit can be loaded with some effort. >>> >>> >>> You're luckier than me. >>> >>> Pharo 64bits segfaults on both Ubuntu 16.04 and 16.10. >> >> â¦ and the dumps? >> >> >> Here it is. Can create it on-demand :( >> >> I had no success compiling 64bits vms by myself. They crash/deadlock >> after that point, but they are not usable either. >> >> Thierry >> >> >> >> Esteban >> >>> >>> Thierry >>> >>> >>> >>> It looks very promising! Thank you! >>> >>> Cheers, >>> -- Pavel >>> >>> >>> >>> 2017-03-06 7:17 GMT+01:00 Esteban >>> Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>>: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> First, let me be clear: I *like* sublimish theme (not for >>> my use, but I like it), and I like (a lot) the windows >>> list on spotter, and I like in general all this new >>> additions. >>> >>> And I know, most of those additions are usability >>> enhancements so a good thing. >>> >>> But can you guys stop pushing new features into a (in >>> theory) frozen version? >>> >>> Pharo 7 will arrive soonâ¦ *if* we can fix all things >>> missing. If I can suggest an orientation, it would be >>> good, for those that use linux and mac (windows is not >>> ready), to test and help fix 64bits version. >>> >>> There are still plenty of bugs to fix there, like for >>> example why Spotter does not shows search line. >>> >>> Last week I added support to Athens and SDL2 in 64bits >>> but that meant: >>> >>> - some important changes in UFFI >>> - discover something that seems is failing on callbacks >>> for Cairo (no idea if it is a callbacks problem or an >>> image problem that causes a callback problem). >>> >>> I would say all this and the fact we are working on >>> 64bits in general deserves a lot of testing. >>> >>> I will add links in Pharo page to download 64bits (Iâm at >>> the train now), but in the mean time you can download all >>> from here: >>> >>> http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo-64.zip >>> <http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo-64.zip> >>> http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo64-linux-latest.zip >>> <http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo64-linux-latest.zip> (linux) >>> http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo64-mac-latest.zip <http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo64-mac-latest.zip> (mac) >>> http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/sources.zip >>> <http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/sources.zip> (in >>> case you need them) >>> >>> cheers, >>> Esteban >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> <crash.dmp> >

March 6, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] Frozen is melted (can you guys please be patient?)

by Esteban Lorenzano

which VM are you using? this: **PrimitiveFailure** findSubstring:in:startingAt:matchTable: indicates that you are not using a PharoVMâ¦ am I right? Esteban > On 6 Mar 2017, at 17:38, Thierry Goubier <thierry.goubier(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > 2017-03-06 17:20 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>>: > >> On 6 Mar 2017, at 17:04, Thierry Goubier <thierry.goubier(a)gmail.com <mailto:thierry.goubier@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> >> >> 2017-03-06 16:54 GMT+01:00 Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com <mailto:pavel.krivanek@gmail.com>>: >> I treid 64-bit Pharo on fresh (x)ubuntu and: >> - Zodiac (SSL) works >> - Roassal (Athens) work with a library path fix >> . LibGit can be loaded with some effort. >> >> You're luckier than me. >> >> Pharo 64bits segfaults on both Ubuntu 16.04 and 16.10. > > â¦ and the dumps? > > Here it is. Can create it on-demand :( > > I had no success compiling 64bits vms by myself. They crash/deadlock after that point, but they are not usable either. > > Thierry > > > Esteban > >> >> Thierry >> >> >> It looks very promising! Thank you! >> >> Cheers, >> -- Pavel >> >> >> >> 2017-03-06 7:17 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>>: >> Hi, >> >> First, let me be clear: I *like* sublimish theme (not for my use, but I like it), and I like (a lot) the windows list on spotter, and I like in general all this new additions. >> >> And I know, most of those additions are usability enhancements so a good thing. >> >> But can you guys stop pushing new features into a (in theory) frozen version? >> >> Pharo 7 will arrive soonâ¦ *if* we can fix all things missing. If I can suggest an orientation, it would be good, for those that use linux and mac (windows is not ready), to test and help fix 64bits version. >> >> There are still plenty of bugs to fix there, like for example why Spotter does not shows search line. >> >> Last week I added support to Athens and SDL2 in 64bits but that meant: >> >> - some important changes in UFFI >> - discover something that seems is failing on callbacks for Cairo (no idea if it is a callbacks problem or an image problem that causes a callback problem). >> >> I would say all this and the fact we are working on 64bits in general deserves a lot of testing. >> >> I will add links in Pharo page to download 64bits (Iâm at the train now), but in the mean time you can download all from here: >> >> http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo-64.zip <http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo-64.zip> >> http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo64-linux-latest.zip <http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo64-linux-latest.zip> (linux) >> http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo64-mac-latest.zip <http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo64-mac-latest.zip> (mac) >> http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/sources.zip <http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/sources.zip> (in case you need them) >> >> cheers, >> Esteban >> >> > > > <crash.dmp>

March 6, 2017

Welcome screen

by Ben Coman

Just wanted to say I like what Squeak has done with their welcome screens. First, the main buttons to Skip or Configure and... 1. Choose a Theme 2. Visual settings 3. Interaction settings 4. More interaction settings 5. Other settings Probably we wouldn't want all those, but at least choosing a theme might be good, and perhaps asking for participation in UI feedback, or enabling any technology previews that might be included.. Check out 5.1 download from http://squeak.org/. cheers -ben

March 6, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] Frozen is melted (can you guys please be patient?)

by Thierry Goubier

2017-03-06 17:20 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: > > On 6 Mar 2017, at 17:04, Thierry Goubier <thierry.goubier(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > 2017-03-06 16:54 GMT+01:00 Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com>: > >> I treid 64-bit Pharo on fresh (x)ubuntu and: >> - Zodiac (SSL) works >> - Roassal (Athens) work with a library path fix >> . LibGit can be loaded with some effort. >> > > You're luckier than me. > > Pharo 64bits segfaults on both Ubuntu 16.04 and 16.10. > > > â¦ and the dumps? > Here it is. Can create it on-demand :( I had no success compiling 64bits vms by myself. They crash/deadlock after that point, but they are not usable either. Thierry > > Esteban > > > Thierry > > >> >> It looks very promising! Thank you! >> >> Cheers, >> -- Pavel >> >> >> >> 2017-03-06 7:17 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> First, let me be clear: I *like* sublimish theme (not for my use, but I >>> like it), and I like (a lot) the windows list on spotter, and I like in >>> general all this new additions. >>> >>> And I know, most of those additions are usability enhancements so a good >>> thing. >>> >>> But can you guys stop pushing new features into a (in theory) frozen >>> version? >>> >>> Pharo 7 will arrive soonâ¦ *if* we can fix all things missing. If I can >>> suggest an orientation, it would be good, for those that use linux and mac >>> (windows is not ready), to test and help fix 64bits version. >>> >>> There are still plenty of bugs to fix there, like for example why >>> Spotter does not shows search line. >>> >>> Last week I added support to Athens and SDL2 in 64bits but that meant: >>> >>> - some important changes in UFFI >>> - discover something that seems is failing on callbacks for Cairo (no >>> idea if it is a callbacks problem or an image problem that causes a >>> callback problem). >>> >>> I would say all this and the fact we are working on 64bits in general >>> deserves a lot of testing. >>> >>> I will add links in Pharo page to download 64bits (Iâm at the train >>> now), but in the mean time you can download all from here: >>> >>> http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo-64.zip >>> http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo64-linux-latest.zip (linux) >>> http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo64-mac-latest.zip (mac) >>> http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/sources.zip (in case you need them) >>> >>> cheers, >>> Esteban >>> >> >> > >

March 6, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] Frozen is melted (can you guys please be patient?)

by Esteban Lorenzano

> On 6 Mar 2017, at 17:04, Thierry Goubier <thierry.goubier(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > 2017-03-06 16:54 GMT+01:00 Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com <mailto:pavel.krivanek@gmail.com>>: > I treid 64-bit Pharo on fresh (x)ubuntu and: > - Zodiac (SSL) works > - Roassal (Athens) work with a library path fix > . LibGit can be loaded with some effort. > > You're luckier than me. > > Pharo 64bits segfaults on both Ubuntu 16.04 and 16.10. â¦ and the dumps? Esteban > > Thierry > > > It looks very promising! Thank you! > > Cheers, > -- Pavel > > > > 2017-03-06 7:17 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>>: > Hi, > > First, let me be clear: I *like* sublimish theme (not for my use, but I like it), and I like (a lot) the windows list on spotter, and I like in general all this new additions. > > And I know, most of those additions are usability enhancements so a good thing. > > But can you guys stop pushing new features into a (in theory) frozen version? > > Pharo 7 will arrive soonâ¦ *if* we can fix all things missing. If I can suggest an orientation, it would be good, for those that use linux and mac (windows is not ready), to test and help fix 64bits version. > > There are still plenty of bugs to fix there, like for example why Spotter does not shows search line. > > Last week I added support to Athens and SDL2 in 64bits but that meant: > > - some important changes in UFFI > - discover something that seems is failing on callbacks for Cairo (no idea if it is a callbacks problem or an image problem that causes a callback problem). > > I would say all this and the fact we are working on 64bits in general deserves a lot of testing. > > I will add links in Pharo page to download 64bits (Iâm at the train now), but in the mean time you can download all from here: > > http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo-64.zip <http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo-64.zip> > http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo64-linux-latest.zip <http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo64-linux-latest.zip> (linux) > http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo64-mac-latest.zip <http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo64-mac-latest.zip> (mac) > http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/sources.zip <http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/sources.zip> (in case you need them) > > cheers, > Esteban > >

March 6, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] Frozen is melted (can you guys please be patient?)

by Thierry Goubier

2017-03-06 16:54 GMT+01:00 Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com>: > I treid 64-bit Pharo on fresh (x)ubuntu and: > - Zodiac (SSL) works > - Roassal (Athens) work with a library path fix > . LibGit can be loaded with some effort. > You're luckier than me. Pharo 64bits segfaults on both Ubuntu 16.04 and 16.10. Thierry > > It looks very promising! Thank you! > > Cheers, > -- Pavel > > > > 2017-03-06 7:17 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: > >> Hi, >> >> First, let me be clear: I *like* sublimish theme (not for my use, but I >> like it), and I like (a lot) the windows list on spotter, and I like in >> general all this new additions. >> >> And I know, most of those additions are usability enhancements so a good >> thing. >> >> But can you guys stop pushing new features into a (in theory) frozen >> version? >> >> Pharo 7 will arrive soonâ¦ *if* we can fix all things missing. If I can >> suggest an orientation, it would be good, for those that use linux and mac >> (windows is not ready), to test and help fix 64bits version. >> >> There are still plenty of bugs to fix there, like for example why Spotter >> does not shows search line. >> >> Last week I added support to Athens and SDL2 in 64bits but that meant: >> >> - some important changes in UFFI >> - discover something that seems is failing on callbacks for Cairo (no >> idea if it is a callbacks problem or an image problem that causes a >> callback problem). >> >> I would say all this and the fact we are working on 64bits in general >> deserves a lot of testing. >> >> I will add links in Pharo page to download 64bits (Iâm at the train now), >> but in the mean time you can download all from here: >> >> http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo-64.zip >> http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo64-linux-latest.zip (linux) >> http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo64-mac-latest.zip (mac) >> http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/sources.zip (in case you need them) >> >> cheers, >> Esteban >> > >

March 6, 2017