February 2017 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 6 update catalog entries

by Dimitris Chloupis

The release what marked #common with the initial intention to make it compatible with Squeak too since it relies only on Morphic but I never actually bothered testing it, I have marked it #pharo now and it seems to install fine on my end. I see little reason to support individual pharo versions because I focus always on the latest version. Ephestos projects like ChronosManager are made for personal reasons and are not intended for public consumption though I encourage it I do not have the time or motivation to make it work well for everyone. Including supporting older Pharo versions. On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 6:00 PM Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > > > On 4 Feb 2017, at 16:24, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: > > > > kilon.alios wrote > >> Time to make sure they work as expected. > > > > And tag them #'Pharo6.0' once it's released. In the process of loading > > ChronosManager from the Catalog in Pharo 5, I got a warning that it was > not > > marked as safe (sorry I forgot to tell you!). It ended up loading and > > working AFAICT. > > Euh, no, the configs must be copied into MetaRepoForPharo60, this is the > way they are 'blessed', AFAIU. > > > ----- > > Cheers, > > Sean > > -- > > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Pharo-6-update-catalog-entries-tp4932354p4932978.html > > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at > Nabble.com. > > > > >

Feb. 5, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] I am stuck ProfStef

by Dimitris Chloupis

Do not hit yourself too hard, this is why we are here to help you so we are glad you asked. Most people are afraid to ask questions. Also this mailing list is for discussing developing of Pharo , use the Pharo-Users mailing list which is for the users because its more active and you will get your questions answer faster and is also the most appropriate place to ask questions about using Pharo. On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 5:30 AM Igor Raven via Pharo-dev < pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org> wrote: > Disregard my previous message. > Pulled my head out of my butt took a deep breath of fresh air and managed > to get things input correctly. > igor > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Igor Raven via Pharo-dev <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org> > *To:* "pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org" <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org> > *Cc:* Igor Raven <igorraven(a)yahoo.com> > *Sent:* Saturday, February 4, 2017 7:25 PM > *Subject:* [Pharo-dev] I am stuck ProfStef > > In ProfStef page 17 or 29 I am stuck > "Try to go to the next lesson with a cascade of two 'next' messages:" > How can I find the solution or > how do I escape to page 19? > Thank you for your help > igor > > >

Feb. 5, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 6 update catalog entries

by Pierce Ng

On Sat, Feb 04, 2017 at 03:51:43PM -0800, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > Ah, interesting! I wonder if this represents a bug then, because > ChronosManager is in the metarepos for both Pharo 5 and 6, but in Pharo 5 > loads the config from the meta-repo-for-6, not 5... ConfigOfGlorpSQLite is in both Pharo 5 and 6 meta repos, and 5's catalog browser currently warns that it is unknown. I modified CatalogProject class: createRepositoryURLtoNameMappings "Return a mapping between repositories URLs and their user names" ^ Dictionary new "Added the 6.0 line below." at: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/MetaRepoForPharo60/main' put: 'Pharo6.0'; at: self pharoDistributionRepository put: self pharoCurrentDottedName; "at: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/MetaRepoForPharo50/main' put: 'Pharo5.0';" at: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/MetaRepoForPharo40/main' put: 'Pharo4.0'; at: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/MetaRepoForPharo30/main' put: 'Pharo3.0'; at: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/MetacelloRepository' put: 'Unsorted'; yourself Also created this convenience method in CatalogProject class side: reset repositoryURLToNamMappings := nil After which, sent #reset to CatalogProject, then (don't remember whether any other steps here in between) clicked refresh in the catalog browser, and now GlorpSQLite shows up as "Pharo 6.0" in my modified Pharo 5 image. (And there's somebody on a Hacker News topic about Cuis yesterday freely sharing their opinion that Pharo is not discoverable...)

Feb. 5, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] I am stuck ProfStef

by Igor Raven

Disregard my previous message. Pulled my head out of my butt took a deep breath of fresh air and managed to get things input correctly.igor From: Igor Raven via Pharo-dev <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org> To: "pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org" <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org> Cc: Igor Raven <igorraven(a)yahoo.com> Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2017 7:25 PM Subject: [Pharo-dev] I am stuck ProfStef In ProfStef page 17 or 29 I am stuck"Try to go to the next lesson with a cascade of two 'next' messages:"How can I find the solution or how do I escape to page 19? Thank you for your helpigor

Feb. 5, 2017

I am stuck ProfStef

by Igor Raven

In ProfStef page 17 or 29 I am stuck"Try to go to the next lesson with a cascade of two 'next' messages:"How can I find the solution or how do I escape to page 19? Thank you for your helpigor

Feb. 5, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 6 update catalog entries

by Sean P. DeNigris

Sven Van Caekenberghe-2 wrote > the configs must be copied into MetaRepoForPharo60, this is the way they > are 'blessed', AFAIU. Ah, interesting! I wonder if this represents a bug then, because ChronosManager is in the metarepos for both Pharo 5 and 6, but in Pharo 5 loads the config from the meta-repo-for-6, not 5... ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-6-update-catalog-entries-tp4932354p4933019.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Feb. 4, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] FileStreams and encoding ( opening a readStream on a FileRerefence)

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

> On 4 Feb 2017, at 21:14, stepharong <stepharong(a)free.fr> wrote: > > I will talk about guille about his file implementation and we can see what we can do. Yes, that is step 1, here is the issue I was talking about: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/18414/Change-usages-of-StandardFileStream… > On Sat, 04 Feb 2017 20:28:07 +0100, Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > 2017-02-04 19:09 GMT+01:00 stepharong <stepharong(a)free.fr>: > Sven > > I really think that we should clean and improve on this side. > What would be a roadmap? > > - Improve filesystem API to call Zn > - Deprecated other users? (what are they?) > - what would be the next steps? > > Yes, we need remove completely old files code. > Funny that file stream which we use (MultiByteFileStream) is in package 'Files-Deprecated'. > > > Funny thing now is deprecated package tag > > > > -- > Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/

Feb. 4, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] FileStreams and encoding ( opening a readStream on a FileRerefence)

by stepharong

I will talk about guille about his file implementation and we can see what we can do. On Sat, 04 Feb 2017 20:28:07 +0100, Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > 2017-02-04 19:09 GMT+01:00 stepharong <stepharong(a)free.fr>: >> Sven >> >> I really think that we should clean and improve on this side. >> What would be a roadmap? >> >> - Improve filesystem API to call Zn >> - Deprecated other users? (what are they?) >> - what would be the next steps? > > Yes, we need remove completely old files code. > Funny that file stream which we use (MultiByteFileStream) is in package > 'Files-Deprecated'. > > > Funny thing now is deprecated package tag -- Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/

Feb. 4, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] FileStreams and encoding ( opening a readStream on a FileRerefence)

by stepharong

> > Guilermo's new File class with its simple binary streams can be > perfectly combined (stacked) with Zn character encoding streams. A first > step would be to make FileSystem return/produce those stacked streams. > > I even believe there is a prototype integrating this > > I believe you are one (the ?) author of Nile, so you know very well how > complex stream users are - that is the challenge. Authors of parsers or > protocols that depend on streams should write to minimal API's, only > using what they really need. Sven my point is that if we want to make progress from this front we should slowly improve once we have in place the new version then we can plan for migrating yes it can be tedious and boring but we can do it if we have a plan. Stef

Feb. 4, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] FileStreams and encoding ( opening a readStream on a FileRerefence)

by Denis Kudriashov

2017-02-04 19:09 GMT+01:00 stepharong <stepharong(a)free.fr>: > Sven > > I really think that we should clean and improve on this side. > What would be a roadmap? > > - Improve filesystem API to call Zn > - Deprecated other users? (what are they?) > - what would be the next steps? Yes, we need remove completely old files code. Funny that file stream which we use (MultiByteFileStream) is in package 'Files-Deprecated'. Funny thing now is deprecated package tag

Feb. 4, 2017