February 2017 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] Segmentation fault while installing Scale

by Andriy Tykhonov

Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com> writes: > Are you on 64-bit using 32-bit Pharo? This is not pure 64-bit system. This is multilib setup. So, I can execute 32-bit and 64-bit programs on the same machine. This is recent system installation, and Pharo doesn't work well on it. But it did work well on another Gentoo Linux system with the same multilib support. > Can you use ldd to check the pharo binary is linking to these 32-bit libraries? > http://pharo.org/gnu-linux-installation $ ldd ./pharo-vm/pharo linux-gate.so.1 (0xf76f6000) libm.so.6 => /lib32/libm.so.6 (0xf7664000) libdl.so.2 => /lib32/libdl.so.2 (0xf765f000) libpthread.so.0 => /lib32/libpthread.so.0 (0xf7643000) libc.so.6 => /lib32/libc.so.6 (0xf7496000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xf76f7000) This is mostly the same output (except addresses, such as 0xf76f6000, -- I'm writing about this fact just because I'm not sure whether it is important) which I had seen on the previous Gentoo Linux system. > > When you get it working can you provide a recipe for the download page. > > Alternatively you might try either (pre-release) 64-bit VM from... > http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo-spur64/linux/ > * pharo-linux-x86_64threaded-201702061308-aa78f27.zip > * pharo-linux-x86_64itimer-201702030802-61970b6.zip I have tried both with the image downloaded from http://files.pharo.org/image/60/ (Pharo-Image-6.0-latest.zip). I get the same result: $Â ./pharo Pharo-60386.image This interpreter (vers. 68021) cannot read image file (vers. 6521). Press CR to quit... zsh: exit 1 ./pharo ../tmp64/Pharo-60386.image > http://forum.world.st/Unix-heartbeat-thread-vs-itimer-td4928943.html > > and just expand the image zip in the same folder... > http://files.pharo.org/image/60/ > * 60385-64.zip Thank you! -- Andriy > > cheers -ben > > On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 5:49 AM, Andrey Tykhonov <atykhonov(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi all, >> >>> and which VM do you use (there is a System report browser where you can >>> find the information. >> >> I've somehow managed to get the information from System report browser: >> >> Image >> ----- >> /home/demi/mess/2017/06/tmp2/Pharo.image >> Pharo5.0 >> Latest update: #50768 >> Unnamed >> >> Virtual Machine >> --------------- >> /home/demi/mess/2017/06/tmp2/pharo-vm/pharo >> CoInterpreter VMMaker.oscog-eem.1855 uuid: >> d8e4a3c2-a3bf-4adc-b224-8012903a1ef4 May 4 2016 >> StackToRegisterMappingCogit VMMaker.oscog-eem.1855 uuid: >> d8e4a3c2-a3bf-4adc-b224-8012903a1ef4 May 4 2016 >> https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm.git Commit: >> b8ec25a570d7539653e1d793e97609adb509aaed Date: 2016-05-04 11:14:22 +0200 By: >> Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> Jenkins build #589 >> >> Unix built on May 4 2016 11:54:41 Compiler: 4.6.3 >> VMMaker versionString https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm.git Commit: >> b8ec25a570d7539653e1d793e97609adb509aaed Date: 2016-05-04 11:14:22 +0200 By: >> Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> Jenkins build #589 >> CoInterpreter VMMaker.oscog-eem.1855 uuid: >> d8e4a3c2-a3bf-4adc-b224-8012903a1ef4 May 4 2016 >> StackToRegisterMappingCogit VMMaker.oscog-eem.1855 uuid: >> d8e4a3c2-a3bf-4adc-b224-8012903a1ef4 May 4 2016 >> >> >> I noticed that there are more items which could be selected (list in the >> left bar, I mean System report browser), but I cannot get more info, because >> pharo crashes each time I try to select all text from the all items. May be >> it would be helpful (and I'll be able to) to get information only from some >> particular item? But then, I need to know which exactly items would be >> helpful. >> >> Also, I'm attaching to this email log file after execution of the Pharo with >> strace: >> >> strace ./pharo-ui Pharo.image > pharo-ui-with-strace.log 2>&1 >> >> I hope it could shed more light on the issue. >> >>

Feb. 11, 2017

inspector performance improvement

by Tudor Girba

Hi, Andrei and Alex did a great job at improving the performance and scalability of the inspector. There are a couple of main improvements: - Added FastTable support for the Raw presentation for all objects. This implied completing the support for the tree presentation binding to fast table. - Moved the Items presentation for collections to FastTable. - Improved the rendering of Glamour to no longer rely on the default Morph>>#adoptPaneColor. It turns out that using adoptPaneColor triggers a relayout of the morph, even if it is not visible. We extended PanelMorph in the context of Glamour with a less needy logic. I will not tell you how fast it is. I would rather want you to play with it :). The change is already in the Moose image. It is not yet in Pharo, but it will be soon. In the meantime you can be load it in Pharo 6 like this: Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'Moose' project: 'GToolkit'; package: 'ConfigurationOfGToolkitCore'; load. (#ConfigurationOfGToolkitCore asClass project version: #stable) load To play with it, try this with both the current version and the new one and the Spec Inspector if you want (just make sure you save the image beforehand): collection := (1 to: 100000000) asArray. [collection inspect] timeToRun. collection := (1 to: 100000000). [collection inspect] timeToRun. (for these two ones notice that Items do not appear at all in the old implementation) [World inspect] timeToRun. There are still a couple of issues open, such as the sorting of the columns. We would need your help with testing this, and report possible missing issues. Cheers, Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "Obvious things are difficult to teach."

Feb. 11, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] fcd75f: 60386

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

> On 11 Feb 2017, at 09:48, GitHub <noreply(a)github.com> wrote: > > Branch: refs/heads/6.0 > Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core > Commit: fcd75f0830aa6925f2fee68011ae20fb30efee81 > https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/fcd75f0830aa6925f2fee680… > Author: Jenkins Build Server <board(a)pharo-project.org> > Date: 2017-02-11 (Sat, 11 Feb 2017) > > Changed paths: > R ScriptLoader60.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - scripts/script60385.st > A ScriptLoader60.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - scripts/script60386.st > R ScriptLoader60.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - updates/update60385.st > A ScriptLoader60.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - updates/update60386.st > M ScriptLoader60.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/public/commentForCurrentUpdate.st > M Tool-FileList.package/FileList.class/instance/accessing/contents.st > A Tool-FileList.package/FileList.class/instance/accessing/getEncoding.st > M Tool-FileList.package/FileList.class/instance/file menu action/getHex.st > A Tool-FileList.package/FileList.class/instance/private/knownEncodingIdentifiers.st > M Tool-FileList.package/FileList.class/instance/private/readContentsBrief_.st > M Tool-FileList.package/FileList.class/instance/private/readContentsHex_.st > M Tool-FileList.package/FileList.class/instance/private/selectEncoding.st > A Tool-FileList.package/FileList.class/instance/private/streamFirst5000BytesFrom_.st > A Tool-FileList.package/FileList.class/instance/private/streamFirst5000BytesWithEncodingFrom_.st > A Tool-FileList.package/FileList.class/instance/private/streamFullContentsFrom_.st > A Tool-FileList.package/FileList.class/instance/private/streamFullContentsWithEncodingFrom_.st > > Log Message: > ----------- > 60386 > 18778 FileList "View as" does not work > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/18778 > > http://files.pharo.org/image/60/60386.zip Very nice indeed, Nicolai, thank you once more.

Feb. 11, 2017

[pharo-project/pharo-core]

by GitHub

Branch: refs/tags/60386 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

Feb. 11, 2017

[pharo-project/pharo-core] fcd75f: 60386

by GitHub

Branch: refs/heads/6.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: fcd75f0830aa6925f2fee68011ae20fb30efee81 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/fcd75f0830aa6925f2fee680… Author: Jenkins Build Server <board(a)pharo-project.org> Date: 2017-02-11 (Sat, 11 Feb 2017) Changed paths: R ScriptLoader60.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - scripts/script60385.st A ScriptLoader60.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - scripts/script60386.st R ScriptLoader60.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - updates/update60385.st A ScriptLoader60.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - updates/update60386.st M ScriptLoader60.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/public/commentForCurrentUpdate.st M Tool-FileList.package/FileList.class/instance/accessing/contents.st A Tool-FileList.package/FileList.class/instance/accessing/getEncoding.st M Tool-FileList.package/FileList.class/instance/file menu action/getHex.st A Tool-FileList.package/FileList.class/instance/private/knownEncodingIdentifiers.st M Tool-FileList.package/FileList.class/instance/private/readContentsBrief_.st M Tool-FileList.package/FileList.class/instance/private/readContentsHex_.st M Tool-FileList.package/FileList.class/instance/private/selectEncoding.st A Tool-FileList.package/FileList.class/instance/private/streamFirst5000BytesFrom_.st A Tool-FileList.package/FileList.class/instance/private/streamFirst5000BytesWithEncodingFrom_.st A Tool-FileList.package/FileList.class/instance/private/streamFullContentsFrom_.st A Tool-FileList.package/FileList.class/instance/private/streamFullContentsWithEncodingFrom_.st Log Message: ----------- 60386 18778 FileList "View as" does not work https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/18778 http://files.pharo.org/image/60/60386.zip

Feb. 11, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] Segmentation fault while installing Scale

by Ben Coman

Are you on 64-bit using 32-bit Pharo? Can you use ldd to check the pharo binary is linking to these 32-bit libraries? http://pharo.org/gnu-linux-installation When you get it working can you provide a recipe for the download page. Alternatively you might try either (pre-release) 64-bit VM from... http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo-spur64/linux/ * pharo-linux-x86_64threaded-201702061308-aa78f27.zip * pharo-linux-x86_64itimer-201702030802-61970b6.zip http://forum.world.st/Unix-heartbeat-thread-vs-itimer-td4928943.html and just expand the image zip in the same folder... http://files.pharo.org/image/60/ * 60385-64.zip cheers -ben On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 5:49 AM, Andrey Tykhonov <atykhonov(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > >> and which VM do you use (there is a System report browser where you can >> find the information. > > I've somehow managed to get the information from System report browser: > > Image > ----- > /home/demi/mess/2017/06/tmp2/Pharo.image > Pharo5.0 > Latest update: #50768 > Unnamed > > Virtual Machine > --------------- > /home/demi/mess/2017/06/tmp2/pharo-vm/pharo > CoInterpreter VMMaker.oscog-eem.1855 uuid: > d8e4a3c2-a3bf-4adc-b224-8012903a1ef4 May 4 2016 > StackToRegisterMappingCogit VMMaker.oscog-eem.1855 uuid: > d8e4a3c2-a3bf-4adc-b224-8012903a1ef4 May 4 2016 > https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm.git Commit: > b8ec25a570d7539653e1d793e97609adb509aaed Date: 2016-05-04 11:14:22 +0200 By: > Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> Jenkins build #589 > > Unix built on May 4 2016 11:54:41 Compiler: 4.6.3 > VMMaker versionString https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm.git Commit: > b8ec25a570d7539653e1d793e97609adb509aaed Date: 2016-05-04 11:14:22 +0200 By: > Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> Jenkins build #589 > CoInterpreter VMMaker.oscog-eem.1855 uuid: > d8e4a3c2-a3bf-4adc-b224-8012903a1ef4 May 4 2016 > StackToRegisterMappingCogit VMMaker.oscog-eem.1855 uuid: > d8e4a3c2-a3bf-4adc-b224-8012903a1ef4 May 4 2016 > > > I noticed that there are more items which could be selected (list in the > left bar, I mean System report browser), but I cannot get more info, because > pharo crashes each time I try to select all text from the all items. May be > it would be helpful (and I'll be able to) to get information only from some > particular item? But then, I need to know which exactly items would be > helpful. > > Also, I'm attaching to this email log file after execution of the Pharo with > strace: > > strace ./pharo-ui Pharo.image > pharo-ui-with-strace.log 2>&1 > > I hope it could shed more light on the issue. > >

Feb. 11, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] Slack, fragmentation and design information

by Dimitris Chloupis

I fail to see the problem here On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 1:52 AM phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be> wrote: > Am still finding useful stuff on Squeak wiki, sorry. > The point of a Wiki is to capture discussions over a given topic and make > it grow into something more structured over time. Like original c2 wiki. > > Phil > > On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 9:30 PM, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > If you miss it so much we have something much better > > Github wikis, we never use > > Each of our books is hosted in a Github repo and each repo always comes > with its own wiki using very simple markdown as everything else in Github > > You do not have content but only a snippet of code to offer ? No problem > we have you covered there too create a gist for it , link it in the wiki > and we will add it back to book. Gists even offer their own version control > which means you can keep working and improving your code snippet for years > to come without braking the workflow. > > Then its a question of copy pasting the contents to pillar and adding them > in our books , or if you do not mind the extra work write it in pillar > directly and add it to the relevant book > > All books can be added to CI and generate automagically html pages for > direct access , we do this already with PBE 5. > > Our Pharo "wiki" is easier to use and far more powerful than anything > Squeak ever had, no offence intended of course to the original creators and > maintainers of Squeak wiki. > > Also github offers hosting of static webpages we could have a website > hosted as github repo made with pillar that link to all wikis, gists and > book artifacts. I can create this in an hour of work its not big deal. I > would have done this myself but Stef already has added the books to > Pharo.org which I find is more or less the same thing. > > On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 10:15 PM philippe.back(a)highoctane.be < > philippe.back(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I miss the Squeak wiki Pharo style. > > Phil > > Le 10 fÃ©vr. 2017 19:06, "Esteban A. Maringolo" <emaringolo(a)gmail.com> a > Ã©crit : > > 2017-02-10 14:59 GMT-03:00 phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be>: > > Mass adoption and hyper reduced friction to get people on board. > > > > For me: I have 10+ slack teams in my slack client and there is really no > > point in having more clients on the desktop. > > +1 to this. This is key. > > Maybe what we're missing is a simple wiki to collect the shared > knowledge, recipes, and other stuff. > > > Esteban A. Maringolo > > >

Feb. 11, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] Slack, fragmentation and design information

by phil＠highoctane.be

Am still finding useful stuff on Squeak wiki, sorry. The point of a Wiki is to capture discussions over a given topic and make it grow into something more structured over time. Like original c2 wiki. Phil On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 9:30 PM, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > If you miss it so much we have something much better > > Github wikis, we never use > > Each of our books is hosted in a Github repo and each repo always comes > with its own wiki using very simple markdown as everything else in Github > > You do not have content but only a snippet of code to offer ? No problem > we have you covered there too create a gist for it , link it in the wiki > and we will add it back to book. Gists even offer their own version control > which means you can keep working and improving your code snippet for years > to come without braking the workflow. > > Then its a question of copy pasting the contents to pillar and adding them > in our books , or if you do not mind the extra work write it in pillar > directly and add it to the relevant book > > All books can be added to CI and generate automagically html pages for > direct access , we do this already with PBE 5. > > Our Pharo "wiki" is easier to use and far more powerful than anything > Squeak ever had, no offence intended of course to the original creators and > maintainers of Squeak wiki. > > Also github offers hosting of static webpages we could have a website > hosted as github repo made with pillar that link to all wikis, gists and > book artifacts. I can create this in an hour of work its not big deal. I > would have done this myself but Stef already has added the books to > Pharo.org which I find is more or less the same thing. > > On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 10:15 PM philippe.back(a)highoctane.be < > philippe.back(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> I miss the Squeak wiki Pharo style. >> >> Phil >> >> Le 10 fÃ©vr. 2017 19:06, "Esteban A. Maringolo" <emaringolo(a)gmail.com> a >> Ã©crit : >> >> 2017-02-10 14:59 GMT-03:00 phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be>: >> > Mass adoption and hyper reduced friction to get people on board. >> > >> > For me: I have 10+ slack teams in my slack client and there is really no >> > point in having more clients on the desktop. >> >> +1 to this. This is key. >> >> Maybe what we're missing is a simple wiki to collect the shared >> knowledge, recipes, and other stuff. >> >> >> Esteban A. Maringolo >> >>

Feb. 10, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] Segmentation fault while installing Scale

by Andrey Tykhonov

Hi all, > and which VM do you use (there is a System report browser where you can find the information. I've somehow managed to get the information from System report browser: Image ----- /home/demi/mess/2017/06/tmp2/Pharo.image Pharo5.0 Latest update: #50768 Unnamed Virtual Machine --------------- /home/demi/mess/2017/06/tmp2/pharo-vm/pharo CoInterpreter VMMaker.oscog-eem.1855 uuid: d8e4a3c2-a3bf-4adc-b224-8012903a1ef4 May 4 2016 StackToRegisterMappingCogit VMMaker.oscog-eem.1855 uuid: d8e4a3c2-a3bf-4adc-b224-8012903a1ef4 May 4 2016 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm.git Commit: b8ec25a570d7539653e1d793e97609adb509aaed Date: 2016-05-04 11:14:22 +0200 By: Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> Jenkins build #589 Unix built on May 4 2016 11:54:41 Compiler: 4.6.3 VMMaker versionString https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm.git Commit: b8ec25a570d7539653e1d793e97609adb509aaed Date: 2016-05-04 11:14:22 +0200 By: Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> Jenkins build #589 CoInterpreter VMMaker.oscog-eem.1855 uuid: d8e4a3c2-a3bf-4adc-b224-8012903a1ef4 May 4 2016 StackToRegisterMappingCogit VMMaker.oscog-eem.1855 uuid: d8e4a3c2-a3bf-4adc-b224-8012903a1ef4 May 4 2016 I noticed that there are more items which could be selected (list in the left bar, I mean System report browser), but I cannot get more info, because pharo crashes each time I try to select all text from the all items. May be it would be helpful (and I'll be able to) to get information only from some particular item? But then, I need to know which exactly items would be helpful. Also, I'm attaching to this email log file after execution of the Pharo with strace: strace ./pharo-ui Pharo.image > pharo-ui-with-strace.log 2>&1 I hope it could shed more light on the issue.

Feb. 10, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] Slack, fragmentation and design information

by Dimitris Chloupis

If you miss it so much we have something much better Github wikis, we never use Each of our books is hosted in a Github repo and each repo always comes with its own wiki using very simple markdown as everything else in Github You do not have content but only a snippet of code to offer ? No problem we have you covered there too create a gist for it , link it in the wiki and we will add it back to book. Gists even offer their own version control which means you can keep working and improving your code snippet for years to come without braking the workflow. Then its a question of copy pasting the contents to pillar and adding them in our books , or if you do not mind the extra work write it in pillar directly and add it to the relevant book All books can be added to CI and generate automagically html pages for direct access , we do this already with PBE 5. Our Pharo "wiki" is easier to use and far more powerful than anything Squeak ever had, no offence intended of course to the original creators and maintainers of Squeak wiki. Also github offers hosting of static webpages we could have a website hosted as github repo made with pillar that link to all wikis, gists and book artifacts. I can create this in an hour of work its not big deal. I would have done this myself but Stef already has added the books to Pharo.org which I find is more or less the same thing. On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 10:15 PM philippe.back(a)highoctane.be < philippe.back(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I miss the Squeak wiki Pharo style. > > Phil > > Le 10 fÃ©vr. 2017 19:06, "Esteban A. Maringolo" <emaringolo(a)gmail.com> a > Ã©crit : > > 2017-02-10 14:59 GMT-03:00 phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be>: > > Mass adoption and hyper reduced friction to get people on board. > > > > For me: I have 10+ slack teams in my slack client and there is really no > > point in having more clients on the desktop. > > +1 to this. This is key. > > Maybe what we're missing is a simple wiki to collect the shared > knowledge, recipes, and other stuff. > > > Esteban A. Maringolo > >

Feb. 10, 2017