December 2017 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Website] Updated Linux download instructions

by Marcus Denker

> On 13 Dec 2017, at 12:52, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Tx marcus. > It looks to me like a github project with small actionable todos :) > I do not understand. > On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 11:22 AM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I have updated the download instruction with the infos from >> >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/20799/Update-Linux-Download-instructions >> >> Here are the two pages: >> >> https://pharo.org/gnu-linux-installation-64 >> https://pharo.org/gnu-linux-installation >> >> for the 32 bit version I opted to list the package based installation first >> as the zip file is quite >> complex (requiring manual setup). >> >> TODO >> - add a pointe to get.pharo.org >> - add two to actually start Pharo for all cases. >> - Check https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/20147/ >> - Check if some linux infos from http://pharo.org/download should not be >> better moved >> to the linux page. >> >> >> Marcus >

Dec. 13, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] Epicea feedback - save points

by Stephane Ducasse

Ok so we should check because it should not be complex to add that. The model is quite nice. On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 11:47 AM, Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com> wrote: > Hi Stef, > > I think that is incorrect. Its easy to be certain... > 1. Open Epicea > 2. Save and continue > 3. Open Epicea and observe there is no difference > > cheers -ben > > > On 13 December 2017 at 17:59, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> I think that epicea save point are the list elements on the left. >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 9:05 AM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: >> > Same for me. I thought the last save point would be the last session in >> > the list but I donât think that is really true. So Iâm confused by Epicea, >> > too. >> > >> > Norbert >> > >> >> Am 13.12.2017 um 08:27 schrieb Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com>: >> >> >> >> When I'm in need Epicea, the common scenario is that I've working in >> >> the same session of an Image most of the day, or even days, and I've done >> >> something stupid to lock up the UI, and its only been an hour since my last >> >> save point (force of habit). When I review Epicea, "Filter > Show latest >> >> changes" its still ahrd to determine which changes I'm missing. What I've >> >> just realised is I miss the visibility of the Save Point in the old changes >> >> system. I'd find it really useful for the save points to be show in the >> >> changes list, and also a filter I'd find really useful is "Shows latest >> >> changes since last save". >> >> >> >> >> >> cheers -ben >> > >> >

Dec. 13, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Website] Updated Linux download instructions

by Stephane Ducasse

Tx marcus. It looks to me like a github project with small actionable todos :) On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 11:22 AM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Hi, > > I have updated the download instruction with the infos from > > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/20799/Update-Linux-Download-instructions > > Here are the two pages: > > https://pharo.org/gnu-linux-installation-64 > https://pharo.org/gnu-linux-installation > > for the 32 bit version I opted to list the package based installation first > as the zip file is quite > complex (requiring manual setup). > > TODO > - add a pointe to get.pharo.org > - add two to actually start Pharo for all cases. > - Check https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/20147/ > - Check if some linux infos from http://pharo.org/download should not be > better moved > to the linux page. > > > Marcus

Dec. 13, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] Did the selection in Playground or rubric change?

by Stephane Ducasse

Tx marcus! Tim send a fileout! because this is too painful. Stef On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 12:33 PM, Tim Mackinnon <tim(a)testit.works> wrote: > Actually I played around with all of that stuff and got it working well - but I got scared off with how to contribute with the new process etc. > > I can look again when the Xmas holidays kick in, and see if my small changes work in a 7.x image - I found that I could get the AST to work, but I had to add a little heuristic to it and if I found nothing and there was a selection then it worked the old way. > > Tim > >> On 12 Dec 2017, at 13:06, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> >> Yes, I have it already on my list of things to fixâ¦ (not issue tracker entry yet, will add one). >> >> Marcus >> >>> On 12 Dec 2017, at 13:52, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> just type >>> >>> margins: Put the cursor here and press command + M or command + N >>> in the past >>> margins: was selected and used. >>> >>> What you see is that we cannot rely on the AST. >>> Now selecting items is boring. >>> >>> Stef >>> >>> On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 1:47 PM, Pavel Krivanek >>> <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Andrew improved that so it now works on AST and provides better results. If >>>> you have some code where it does not work, please try to describe the >>>> particular case so we can fix it. >>>> >>>> -- Pavel >>>> >>>> 2017-12-12 13:31 GMT+01:00 Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com>: >>>>> >>>>> Hi >>>>> >>>>> usually in previous version we could put the cursor on the line and >>>>> get senders and implementors without having to select the code. >>>>> Now this super cool features does not work anymore. >>>>> >>>>> Is it only my image? >>>>> >>>>> Stef >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >> > >

Dec. 13, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Website] Updated Linux download instructions

by Marcus Denker

> On 13 Dec 2017, at 11:22, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > Hi, > > I have updated the download instruction with the infos from > > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/20799/Update-Linux-Download-instructions <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/20799/Update-Linux-Download-instructions> > > Here are the two pages: > > https://pharo.org/gnu-linux-installation-64 <https://pharo.org/gnu-linux-installation-64> > https://pharo.org/gnu-linux-installation <https://pharo.org/gnu-linux-installation> > > > for the 32 bit version I opted to list the package based installation first as the zip file is quite > complex (requiring manual setup). > > TODO > - add a pointe to get.pharo.org <http://get.pharo.org/> > I added a section about zeroconf. Marcus

Dec. 13, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] 60528-64 OpalCompiler recompileAll ==> GLM trait conflict

by Stephane Ducasse

Sorry I'm lame.... On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 12:49 PM, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com> wrote: > 32 bits :) > > On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 12:41 PM, Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com> wrote: >> In a fresh 60528-64 image download with PharoLauncher on Ubuntu 16.04... >> 1. Open Playground >> 2. Evaluate... OpalCompler recompileAll >> 3. Try opening Iceberg, Playground or Spotter. >> ==> Error: A class or trait does not properly resolve a conflict between >> multiple traits it uses. >> >> System Browser, Test Runner and Monticello are okay. >> >> 60528 (32bit) is okay (what is different between 32bit and 64bit?) >> >> 60521-64 is broken >> 60520-64 is okay >> >> https://pharo.manuscript.com/f/cases/20867/OpalCompiler-recompileAll-GLM-tr… >> >> cheers -ben >>

Dec. 13, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] 60528-64 OpalCompiler recompileAll ==> GLM trait conflict

by Stephane Ducasse

32 bits :) On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 12:41 PM, Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com> wrote: > In a fresh 60528-64 image download with PharoLauncher on Ubuntu 16.04... > 1. Open Playground > 2. Evaluate... OpalCompler recompileAll > 3. Try opening Iceberg, Playground or Spotter. > ==> Error: A class or trait does not properly resolve a conflict between > multiple traits it uses. > > System Browser, Test Runner and Monticello are okay. > > 60528 (32bit) is okay (what is different between 32bit and 64bit?) > > 60521-64 is broken > 60520-64 is okay > > https://pharo.manuscript.com/f/cases/20867/OpalCompiler-recompileAll-GLM-tr… > > cheers -ben >

Dec. 13, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] About a shared trello board

by Stephane Ducasse

;) Yes So Esteban proposed to use the github project and we started a set of focus projects On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 12:45 PM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > > >> Am 13.12.2017 um 10:58 schrieb Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com>: >> >> Hi >> >> I'm thinking that we are not good at communicating and coordinating effort >> I would like start a (read only) and welcome contributions on demand >> trello board >> so that we know each others on what parts of pharo we are currently working >> and what are the next steps. >> >> Does it make sense for you guys? >> > Yes, from time to time would like at it to see what has been done and what is in the pipe. Later on this would be a nice project for an image bloc-based client for the board ;) > > Norbert >

Dec. 13, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] About a shared trello board

by Norbert Hartl

> Am 13.12.2017 um 10:58 schrieb Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com>: > > Hi > > I'm thinking that we are not good at communicating and coordinating effort > I would like start a (read only) and welcome contributions on demand > trello board > so that we know each others on what parts of pharo we are currently working > and what are the next steps. > > Does it make sense for you guys? > Yes, from time to time would like at it to see what has been done and what is in the pipe. Later on this would be a nice project for an image bloc-based client for the board ;) Norbert

Dec. 13, 2017

60528-64 OpalCompiler recompileAll ==> GLM trait conflict

by Ben Coman

In a fresh 60528-64 image download with PharoLauncher on Ubuntu 16.04... 1. Open Playground 2. Evaluate... OpalCompler recompileAll 3. Try opening Iceberg, Playground or Spotter. ==> Error: A class or trait does not properly resolve a conflict between multiple traits it uses. System Browser, Test Runner and Monticello are okay. 60528 (32bit) is okay (what is different between 32bit and 64bit?) 60521-64 is broken 60520-64 is okay https://pharo.manuscript.com/f/cases/20867/OpalCompiler-recompileAll-GLM-tr… cheers -ben

Dec. 13, 2017