December 2017 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] Best VM for the Mac>

by Esteban Lorenzano

> On 31 Dec 2017, at 15:59, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > yes. > and I will promote them to stable this month. bah, not this month but january ;) > >> On 31 Dec 2017, at 15:56, Bernhard Pieber <bernhard(a)pieber.com> wrote: >> >> These are not for production, right? >> >> Bernhard >> >>> Am 31.12.2017 um 11:58 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: >>> >>> wget -O- get.pharo.org/vmLatest70 | bash >>> wget -O- get.pharo.org/64/vmLatest70 | bash >>> >>> Esteban >>> >>>> On 31 Dec 2017, at 11:48, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Sean P. DeNigris wrote >>>>> What is the best VM right now for the Mac? Where/how would one get it? >>>> >>>> Bump ;) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> Cheers, >>>> Sean >>>> -- >>>> Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Developers-f1294837.html >> >> >

Dec. 31, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] Best VM for the Mac>

by Esteban Lorenzano

yes. and I will promote them to stable this month. > On 31 Dec 2017, at 15:56, Bernhard Pieber <bernhard(a)pieber.com> wrote: > > These are not for production, right? > > Bernhard > >> Am 31.12.2017 um 11:58 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: >> >> wget -O- get.pharo.org/vmLatest70 | bash >> wget -O- get.pharo.org/64/vmLatest70 | bash >> >> Esteban >> >>> On 31 Dec 2017, at 11:48, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: >>> >>> Sean P. DeNigris wrote >>>> What is the best VM right now for the Mac? Where/how would one get it? >>> >>> Bump ;) >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Cheers, >>> Sean >>> -- >>> Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Developers-f1294837.html > >

Dec. 31, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] Best VM for the Mac>

by Bernhard Pieber

These are not for production, right? Bernhard > Am 31.12.2017 um 11:58 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: > > wget -O- get.pharo.org/vmLatest70 | bash > wget -O- get.pharo.org/64/vmLatest70 | bash > > Esteban > >> On 31 Dec 2017, at 11:48, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: >> >> Sean P. DeNigris wrote >>> What is the best VM right now for the Mac? Where/how would one get it? >> >> Bump ;) >> >> >> >> ----- >> Cheers, >> Sean >> -- >> Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Developers-f1294837.html

Dec. 31, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] Simple game framework

by Hilaire

I am *exploring* if Pharo will be suitable to have a simple programming environment to let kids write simple 2D games, SDL was designed for that. Some of my students asked me about programming games, Smalltalk way of writing code will be neat, but the environment need to be accessible and not over engineered. Le 30/12/2017 Ã 22:32, Stephane Ducasse a Ã©critÂ : > What kind of game are you targeting? Did you look at Bloc? Because to > me this is the way to go except if you want just a canvas > and reimplement your event loop. in that case SDL + Athens should work. -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu

Dec. 31, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] Best wishes for 2018

by Norbert Hartl

I want to second that. It has been another amazing year for pharo. And I think things have changed significantly. So 2018 should be really great! I matched my personal not-to-serious goal # ps aux | grep pharo | wc -l 59 So I have 59 pharo images in production. Next step will be to exceed 100 in 2018! And yes, Iâm definitely interested in a bootstrapped image ;) Thank you all for your amazing work. We are a great community! Norbert > Am 29.12.2017 um 09:39 schrieb Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de>: > > Only a few days left for 2017. Thanks to all who helped shaping Pharos future. > May the lighthouse be with you in 2018 as well: > > World backgroundImage: > (ZnEasy > getJpeg: 'https://spotlight.it-notes.ru/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/02c48424be88ee36d5…') > layout: #scaled > > Have fun! > > Bye > T.

Dec. 31, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] Simple game framework

by Hilaire

because simple things should be simple... Le 30/12/2017 Ã 22:32, Stephane Ducasse a Ã©critÂ : > Hilaire > > why do you need to have a sprite on a SDL surface and why plain Athens > is not good enough. Athens is an API not an implementation. > It is like sparta: an API and you do not care about the library below. > > OSWindow is a layer on top of SDL and it is better than SDL directly > to my understanding. > So you should get Athens and SDL for event. > > What kind of game are you targeting? Did you look at Bloc? Because to > me this is the way to go except if you want just a canvas > and reimplement your event loop. in that case SDL + Athens should work. > > Stef > > On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 9:33 PM, Hilaire<hilaire(a)drgeo.eu> wrote: >> I found the mix of OSWindow+SDL+Athens very complex (tens of classes with >> hundreds of methods) and to produce code hard to understand (I look at your >> spider code). >> >> I will prefer fewer functionnality I can understand. >> >> For example, how can you copy a sprite on a SDL surface? Can you do it >> without Athens surface? >> >> >> Le 28/12/2017 Ã 18:51, ClÃ©ment Bera a Ã©crit : >>> Whichever if Cairo stays around or not does not really matter, normally >>> one uses Cairo through Athens or Sparta, abstraction layers on top of 2D >>> graphic engines. I've worked with other 2D engines and the API are always >>> almost the same, so I have no doubt that if Cairo support is dropped we can >>> re-bind Athens/Sparta with another 2D engine (such as engines used by web >>> browsers). >> -- >> Dr. Geo >> http://drgeo.eu >> >> >> -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu

Dec. 31, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] Best wishes for 2018

by Norbert Hartl

> Am 29.12.2017 um 10:27 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: > > Thanks Torsten, > I was about to write a similar mail. > > Thanks to everybody for allow me to be your âguy to hateâ :) > I will continue doing my best to make Pharo a better place for everybody, one step at a time. > You are still by far the nicest âguy to hateâ Iâve ever encountered ;) > happy new year! happy new year to you, too! Norbert > Esteban > >> On 29 Dec 2017, at 09:39, Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> wrote: >> >> Only a few days left for 2017. Thanks to all who helped shaping Pharos future. >> May the lighthouse be with you in 2018 as well: >> >> World backgroundImage: >> (ZnEasy >> getJpeg: 'https://spotlight.it-notes.ru/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/02c48424be88ee36d5…') >> layout: #scaled >> >> Have fun! >> >> Bye >> T. >>

Dec. 31, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Year Wishlist (2018) ?

by Stephan Eggermont

Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi everybody, > > This looks like a good moment of the year to ask all of you what would > you want to see in Pharo next year. I wish you all the time and good health to realize some of your Pharo dreams Stephan

Dec. 31, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] Replacement for deprected MultiByteFileStream?

by Stephan Eggermont

Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Bernhard. > > The deprecation is still in progress. Considering the amount of non-image code using this, I would be interested to hear how this is going to be supported and documented. Stephan

Dec. 31, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] Best VM for the Mac>

by Esteban Lorenzano

wget -O- get.pharo.org/vmLatest70 <http://get.pharo.org/vmLatest70> | bash wget -O- get.pharo.org/64/vmLatest70 <http://get.pharo.org/vmLatest70> | bash Esteban > On 31 Dec 2017, at 11:48, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: > > Sean P. DeNigris wrote >> What is the best VM right now for the Mac? Where/how would one get it? > > Bump ;) > > > > ----- > Cheers, > Sean > -- > Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Developers-f1294837.html >

Dec. 31, 2017